Physics with ATi.

[Metropolis]

Are we ever going to see any sort of Physx? for ATI or something like it, what about this havok thing instead for ATI?

 

[erocker]

DX11 will be addressing physics differently. I assume there will be no more Havok or PhysX in the future.

 

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

DX11 will be addressing physics differently. I assume there will be no more Havok or PhysX in the future.

this ^^^ +1

 

[Metropolis]

So your saying Nvidia and Intel have wasted money buying those?

 

[erocker]

So your saying Nvidia and Intel have wasted money buying those?

No no, not at all.... Just Nvidia. lol. Honestly though, I wouldn't say wasted PhysX when it does have support usually works quite well, and CUDA is great. F@H utilizes it as well. PhysX was a stepping stone, if you will. Everyone will benefit (hopefully) from a unified Physics template with DX11 and we'll (hopefully) see more games with advanced physics being used.

 

[qamulek]

DX11 will be addressing physics differently. I assume there will be no more Havok or PhysX in the future.

Hopefully more like:

DX11 will be addressing physics differently. I assume PhysX as well as Havok will be ported to DX11 to allow the consumer to benefit regardless of which brand of card they own(provided its DX11). PhysX and Havok are tools that are already developed so game developers don't have to mess around trying to create those tools; will DX11 have a physics toolset ready for developers to take advantage of to not need PhysX/Havok? Will there be anything holding PhysX/Havok from being ported to DX11?

 

[erocker]

I don't think it needs to be ported. With the ability to program the shaders directly with DX11 I would think other physics programs and accelerators would become defunct. If you can do hardware accellerated physics with DX11 why would you even need PhysX or Havoc? I could be wrong.

 

[Metropolis]

So this Dx11 i take it thats its going to be newer cards which means they current ones would be somewhat useless :/

 

[Hitman.1stGame]

So your saying Nvidia and Intel have wasted money buying those?

Carmack: Hardware Physics A Bad Idea
could computer shader replace all physics engine here ..but no one confirmed that CS has Physics Engine...CS=GPGPU not a Physics Engine .
as known MS not have any Physics Engine yet .
but some games has it own Physics Engine Like Crysis ..so the developer can can make their Physics Engine work Via GPU not CPU easier

Intel will use Havok with their new GPU Larrabee ..at what i haired that AMD develop it with Havok team to make it work wit GPUs On OpenCL .(looks weird isn't ) .

anyway i see that Havok is the must advanced Physics Engine even is it still work on CPU
Havok/euphoria physics engine for Star Wars

 

[KainXS]

PhysX is dead for sure but developers will slowly switch over from havok to the dx11 physics engine, many many many games today use havok and havok is knit with opencl so developers might keep using it.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

DX11 will be addressing physics differently. I assume there will be no more Havok or PhysX in the future.

Actually, Havok has shown fully functional physics demos running on nVidia, Intel and ATI hardware, using OpenCL.


PhysX should die soon because it's nVidia only, but Havok should stay because it's compatible with Intel, ATI, nVidia and S3 cards.
Heck, being OpenCL it probably supports the PowerVR SGX and other OpenGL ES 2.0 mobile GPUs, too.