Sapphire Vapor-X 5770, ONLY 720 Shaders??

[eidairaman1]

I used another tecnique, because strangely i cannot make a usb bootable with hp program:

I copyed all files to a cd-rom. Then I used a "ultimate boot cd" to boot for dos selecting "bios utility" [selecting this the program loads cdrom driver in automatic]. Then I inserted my cd-rom with atiflash and bios file and flashed in dos.

It sounds complicated but it was the only method I knew for sure (I used for update my last motherboard bios!)

I think you have to ensure your boot priority is set for USB or if you have a secondary bootmenu that is accessible by pressing the Escape Key, right after system poweron

 

[Thrackan]

I think you have to ensure your boot priority is set for USB or if you have a secondary bootmenu that is accessible by pressing the Escape Key, right after system poweron

On my current and previous Gigabyte boards it's F2 for boot menu iirc.

 

[eidairaman1]

ok this is an older Board I have here, the Esc Key is used for the boot menu

 

[RedModRed]

Cracker Jacks post updates...

Cracker Jacks post is GREAT! But, time has passed so let's point out a few suggested updates:

He lists three methods to use ATIFlash; Floppy, Boot CD, and USB stick..

- Floppy : You can't use a floppy any more, not enough space on the floppy. A 3.5 inch floppy formats to hold 1.44Mb. BUT, latest ATIFlash v3.75 alone is 1.83Mb and you still need a new video BIOS which is another 128Kb. (http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/3.5"+inch+floppy+drive)
Dead Path....

- Boot CD : A number of folks have encounter problems on this path. The main issue: getting a bootable DOS image the supports the modern peripherals likely to be encountered such as; USB keyboards, USB mice, SATA HD, SATA CD/DVD drives, and NTFS drive formatting.
While this isn't a completely dead yet path, it is close....

- USB stick : This path is modern. Does work, as shown in this post. And, the all important DOS version supporting Boot to DOS AND access to the files you need (ATIFlash & new Video BIOS) is available.
This is the way to go....

 

[H82LUZ73]

You guys can copy paste this into notepad and save as a 5770.BAT file ,then when you boot to your USB drive just type 5770.bat and it will flash your card.

@Echo Please wait while I'm trying to flash your Video Card...Thanks!

atiflash -f -p 0 5770.bin


again, if you have multiple cards, remove all but the one you flash, and you can flash using atiflash -f -p 0 without worrying about card numbers

 

[renault19]

Restoring all shaders in Sapphire 5770 Vapor X

Disclaimer:
I Take No Responsibility For Anything / Use At Your Own Risk

This Guide will show you how to restore all 800 shaders in your "buggy" sapphire 5770 Vapor X graphics card.

1) Make sure that your Graphics card is the one with the "buggy" bios.

a. Get GPU-Z from here : http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/

b. Run GPU-Z and see if you have all shaders (800). If you have 800, your card is OK and no action is needed. Only continue when you see 720 shaders.


2) Take a backup of your current bios from GPU-Z and save the file just in case.


3) You will need:
a. USB DOS.zip and H P USB Tool.zip attached to first post (thanks to CrackerJack)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57750

b. This Atiflash:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1650/ATIFlash_3.75.html

c) This bios (this is the correct bios):
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/63661/Sapphire.HD5770.1024.091118.html (thanks to w1zzard).
And rename the bios file to correct.bin

4) Read Carefully the guide part "<2> or > (whatever suits you) (personal i did it with part 2)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57750

If you managed to boot DOS, then type the following :

atiflash -p -f 0 correct.bin

The program will inform you that the bios flash has finished and then you restart your system(power off and then power on).

If everything goes fine, your pc will boot up and you are done!.

All credits goes to W1ZZARD and CrackerJack i did NOTHING i just follow there guides.

thank you.

 

[eidairaman1]

It is recommended for the Purpose to put the other card in slot 1 and flash from that.

You guys can copy paste this into notepad and save as a 5770.BAT file ,then when you boot to your USB drive just type 5770.bat and it will flash your card.

@echo Please wait while I'm trying to flash your Video Card...Thanks!

atiflash -f -p 0 5770.bin


remember if you have 2 cards change 0 and put 1 as in -f -p 1

 

[H82LUZ73]

It is recommended for the Purpose to put the other card in slot 1 and flash from that.

Slot 1 is 0 to atiflash and winflash.

 

[W1zzard]

again, if you have multiple cards, remove all but the one you flash, and you can flash using atiflash -f -p 0 without worrying about card numbers

 

[H82LUZ73]

again, if you have multiple cards, remove all but the one you flash, and you can flash using atiflash -f -p 0 without worrying about card numbers

Sorry about that Wizz and eidairaman1,I took the first reply wrong.My bad.I would assume most guys buying the 5770 will only have one in the machine,I just got so used to the 0 to 1 for bat files flashing my cards,But if they were smart they could just rename 57702.bat and edit the 0 to 1.Would that work better for them.

 

[W1zzard]

i suggest to keep your batch file as it is and put a note there that people should remove all cards but the one they want to flash.

there is no guaranteed relation between physical slot and card number, flashing the wrong card is very easy

 

[H82LUZ73]

done

 

[evangelos]

I just got a Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 card is silent, runs fine, BUT GPU-Z shows ONLY 720 Shaders. Any ideas what's up??? I've contacted Sapphire support but they responded with:

""I just tested one of the cards I have here, and yes it does have the 720 shaders, the if you are comparing the stream process which is at 800, it is different the GPUZ software does not tell you the stream process the GPU unit has.

Tech""

Hmmm, I think he is trying to say shaders & stream processors are different things. And, that GPU-Z doesn't display stream processors.... I believe Sapphire is Wrong on here. Should show 800 shaders on a 5770.

Anyone else show 720 or are you showing the Proper 800 on your 5770 ?????

See Attached GPU-Z print screen...

i have the same card and the GPU-Z.0.3.8 shows 800 Shaders. If you visit the Sapphire website you will see they have a bios update for that issue.

 

[RedModRed]

Slow but sure....

Well, I started this thread but I'm the Last to finish.....

Paths to DOS ATIFlash:
- Floppy : as I mentioned, dead path ATIFlash & BIOS to large for a floppy. BUT, I don't even own a floppy drive...
- USB : this is the path well traveled and in Nicely documented by those on this thread & by CrackerJack. BUT, I don't own a USB Stick either. And, yes I am too cheap to go buy one....

- CDROM : this is the Path I choose because I do have an optical drive...

Basically I Used CrackerJack & other's guidance.

1). Here is CrackerJack's guide for flashing. I used path #3 Making a Boot-UpCD

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57750

2). Parts Needed:
a) atiflash.exe for dos: (http:////www.techpowerup.com/downloads...lash_3.75.html)
b) DOS Boot Image: (http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21786&d=1231880794)
c) Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X BIOS: (www.sapphiretech.com [Graphic Card -> PCI-E -> Sapphire HD 5700 Series -> Sapphire Vapor-X HD 5770 1 GB GDDR5 PCIE -> Submit -> BIOS])

3). My short cut, necessitated by using Roxio Center 10 CE:
- burn a disc image of the ISO (DOS Boot Image #2b)
- burn a Second disc with the ATIFlash.exe and your new video card BIOS file (#2b & #2c)

NOTE: I found I could not add files to the ISO image w/Roxio. I did use a trial version of MagicISO to edit the ISO & burn the files onto a single disk, but, in the end I believe having two separate disks was a better option for me...

4). Boot off the DOS CD create

5). type: <drive letter of optical drive> RETURN

6). type: atiflash -p -f 0 <name of correct BIOS> RETURN

7). reboot to windows

8). Windows 7 re-established the driver and then asked for a 2nd reboot

9). GPU-Z 0.3.8 now shows 800 shaders

10). running benchmarks shows FPS improvement. Checking the watt meter shows the system now draws slightly more power too.

NOTE: I'll go to the NewEgg site & update my review to include a link to this techPowerUp solution.

NOTE: Should the original Sapphire Tech Support guy email, I'll let him know about this the techPowerUp solution also.


Many thanks to all those who help find the solution.....

 

[BigBadBoogie]

Seems like Asus put up the firmware on their site and says:
The warranty term will not change after executing this bios update

1. Go to http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/downloads/download_index_01.aspx?psn=0006
2. choose card and OS
3. Check out the Bios on the bottom of the download list with a link to tech powerup


I was just about to order the card when I read the issue at new egg (thanks to poster).
Knowing that the problem is "solved" but I probably have to flash the card makes me thinking:
- All the reviews said the card was cooler and less noisy - thats what I want in my HTPC.
- When activating the shaders it will most likely consume some more energy, thus getting hotter, thus making fan spin faster (someone allready indicated changes in thhis forum)....
- The question is how muck difference there will be in energy and noise?

Option is a passively cooled 5750 from powercolor, but would really love those extra FPS when running 1920*1080 in the 5770 so...anyway...

Thanks for a grear forum from a new member

 

[RedModRed]

Silence is golden...

I'm a bit of a fanatic on silent PCs & this card makes the grade...

While reviewer's measurements vary, the 5750 & 5770 Vapor-X cards from Sapphire consistently review right around 25 dBa

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_5750/

It's basically a the level of most background noise.

NOTE: You can't always believe the noise measurements you read. For example, I have some fans from Silenex that claim they are 11dBa (1100 RPM 120mm fans..) Not a chance, they are very audible. I've used a resistor to cut their fan speed down to 800 RPM. Now, they are silent.... they do have a 9dBa fan they happens to run @ 800 RPMs. I believe this company at best needs to "recalibrate" there measurement equipment.

But in the case of these Sapphire Vapor-X cards, you can believe they are quiet....

 

[Goodman]

I wonder if this could be the same as some AMD CPU? like sempron 140 can be unlocked to a dual core Ax2 , some dual core to quadcore ,etc...

Maybe all or some of the 5750's does have 800 shaders like the 5770's but only 720 works because of the Bios?

Maybe i should try flashing my 5750 with 5770 Bios ..hmmm??

 

[eidairaman1]

I wonder if this could be the same as some AMD CPU? like sempron 140 can be unlocked to a dual core Ax2 , some dual core to quadcore ,etc...

Maybe all or some of the 5750's does have 800 shaders like the 5770's but only 720 works because of the Bios?

Maybe i should try flashing my 5750 with 5770 Bios ..hmmm??

go right ahead and let us know of your success/failure, also prewarning, you flash using a bios not meant for your board can actually mean voiding the warranty.

 

[Goodman]

go right ahead and let us know of your success/failure, also prewarning, you flash using a bios not meant for your board can actually mean voiding the warranty.

I know about all that Warranty & all , been flashing cards for about 10 years but anyhow i wont do it because i can't afford another card right now but maybe i will if someone is successfull but i wont be the first to try....

It was just a thought....

 

[vagxtr]

Seems like Asus put up the firmware on their site and says:
The warranty term will not change after executing this bios update

1. Go to http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/downloads/download_index_01.aspx?psn=0006
2. choose card and OS
3. Check out the Bios on the bottom of the download list with a link to tech powerup

LOL that inability to check out their BIOS rework without third party tool was funniest part on that page

I must say i'm not very familiar with flashing BIOS on GPU and in fact i avoid that as much as i could. You might be wondering what i'm blabing about. I just cant believe myself that i suck up that poor vapor-X marketing again an go buy myself a new crappy card. And it happen to have poorest cooler (ntm how many sites praise the same 5770 Chilli X coolers) ... i'm simply disappointed to see, in fact not surprised at all, how this poor bugger cope with 5min Furmark torture and is nowhere near 55C at load as same sites claims for 3D for 5770 vaporX card it's fluckin 82C+ and it smells like someone forget about plugged iron.

And then to disappointment goes beyond (and i found out about this wonderful 720 SPs only feature) while surfing for DID for 5770 cause RivaTuner 2.24c doesnt recognize it and after adding "RV840 (Juniper) = 68B8h" line in Rivatuner.cfg i still get the weirdest readings in RTs HWMonitor 1256MHz core and 11718Mhz memory wooohooo ntm i didnt OC the card
Not all of us look our new cards with GPU-Z, and it should be mandatory for every new card it seems.

Geez and now i have to flash the card to have what i paid for ... wonderful job Sapphire. With this sucker way of Vapor X cooling you done no way i ever bought your card again. Last good VaporX was 3870 VX/Toxic (and first in fact), and 4870 wasnt too bad. But this VaporX inflation is disappointing this card is not better than noisy squeqing colis 3870 BluePCB singleslot card. It's simply ripoff in time of recession. We could only dream about great cooler (for some people noisy, nah their too picky) that came on X800/X1900 Pro cards that wer singleslot quiet infact and done a good job cooling 80-90W cards on 70C in 3D burn (not OCed ofc)

This 5770 VaporX is cheap sh-tty card ... and in fact not cheap at all when we consider regular 5770 doesn't have this shader cutoff issue and you could buy additional aftermarket cooler for 25-30$ premium that you pay for Vaporware

Thank you all for renault19 & al. for your guides. And Wizz. You should really stick up this thread.

--EDIT--

Just a great and simple guide how to create bootable floppy emulation on USB stick. For some of us like me that dont do that for fun and dont like to google around in the time of great need. Houston you miss the Moon in your calcs.

I could add that this is a deliberate mistake done by Sapphire, IMNSHO. Cause this card w/ 720 shaders @850MHz performs the same as OCed HD4850 760/1120 GDDR3 and give some 13100 3dmarks with AII X2 240 and 1GB of DDR2-1000

 

[Goodman]

WTF! are you talking about?

first the Vapor-x cooler are only $10 over the regular ones

Second mine is only an 5750 but an Vapor-x & overclock @850/1325 from 710/1160 & 10 minutes of furmarks & my card doesn't go over 68c with the fan speed 44% (auto)

where do you get that much crap?

If you got a bad card it happens some times but that doesn't meen that all of them are bad ...move on

 

[vagxtr]

Second mine is only an 5750 but an Vapor-x & overclock @850/1325 from 710/1160 & 10 minutes of furmarks & my card doesn't go over 68c with the fan speed 44% (auto)

where do you get that much crap?

Pleas be polite and consider that VaporX reviewers says 55C in load. And if you have 44% of fan speed that's in fact default or VX and it's around 1600rpm (in GPUZ cause only it can read speed and temp)

After only 5min of Furmark (original 1.0a or what was the first) that's not throttled if you didnt get the news about built in Furmark throttle in HD5000 series i get 80C+ 82 when ambient is @26C and fan speeds up to 3400rpm and became too audible fore something thats advertised as great cooling solution. I dont live at the Arctic or Siberia so it might be the reason cause box cover strictly advertise Antarctic conditions with cute little penguin, but i thought it was advertised as a good cooling not as a recommended place for living if i buy VaporX card

About my xrap you firmly said. It's ugly reality that this card is way overpriced and that i the xucker bought this crap instead XFX card at least i get all shaders out of the box. Reading what you wrote i might even conclude they put 1st grade chips on 5750 cards in favor of poor elling 5770 cards ... in fact it's nothing new when it cames out from sapphire happened in time of 1950Pro/GT when most GT OCed to Pro speeds and have better max OC. Or considering overpriced 1650Xt which became 20-30% overpriced cards at the EOL when 1950Pro was selling like xmas cookies. Bad market politics Sapphire.

You got a bad (hotter) card. Why do you bother to run FurMark anyways?

When you as this way i could say why the hell not . As i state before i'm not the guru here and FurMark in my mind is quick test to see if the card, and cooling, are good enough.
In fact it seems that this might be really problematic card, on first 3D run it crash on 2-3min FM with green blank and didnt wanna to show picture after reset (not even after few min plugged out) And now after 3rd consequent 3dmark run i get BSoD (after 3dm06 1.1 test regularly finish and desktop freeze up). I only test it with Catalyst 9.12. In 3dm never gets above 65C but it mostly runs on 75%-80% GPU load (rarely on Canyon flight hitting 100%) so that might be the reason for cooler temps.

 

[erocker]

Pleas be polite and consider that VaporX reviewers says 55C in load if you have 44% of fan speed thats default in fact for VX and it's around 1600rpm (in GPUZ cause only it can read speed and temp)

After only 5min of Furmark (original 1.0a or what was the first) that's not throttled if you didnt get the news about built in Furmark throttle in HD5000 series i get 80C+ 82 when ambient is @26C and fan speeds up to 3400rpm and became too audible fore something thats advertised as great cooling solution. I dont live at the Arctic or Siberia so it might be the reason cause box cover strictly advertise Antarctic conditions with cute little penguin, but i thought it was advertised as a good cooling not as a recommended place for living if i buy VaporX card

About my xrap you firmly said. It's ugly reality that this card is way overpriced and that i the xucker bought this crap instead XFX card at least i get all shaders out of the box. Reading what you wrote i might even conclude they put 1st grade chips on 5750 cards in favor of poor elling 5770 cards ... in fact it's nothing new when it cames out from sapphire happened in time of 1950Pro/GT when most GT OCed to Pro speeds and have better max OC. Or considering overpriced 1650Xt which became 20-30% overpriced cards at the EOL when 1950Pro was selling like xmas cookies. Bad market politics Sapphire.



It's not something to move on when yo pay permium of 30$ for crappier card than stock HD5770 with a bunch of false marketing

You got a bad (hotter) card. Why do you bother to run FurMark anyways? From my perspective the cooler looks cheap, I would of avoided it.

 

[Zubasa]

When you as this way i could say why the hell not . As i state before i'm not the guru here and FurMark in my mind is quick test to see if the card, and cooling, are good enough.
In fact it seems that this might be really problematic card, on first 3D run it crash on 2-3min FM with green blank and didnt wanna to show picture after reset (not even after few min plugged out) And now after 3rd consequent 3dmark run i get BSoD (after 3dm06 1.1 test regularly finish and desktop freeze up). I only test it with Catalyst 9.12. In 3dm never gets above 65C but it mostly runs on 75%-80% GPU load (rarely on Canyon flight hitting 100%) so that might be the reason for cooler temps.

What you need to do is RMA the card and stop bashing.
The card you have is faulty, or that something else is wrong in your system.
Filling out your system specs will help if you want to solve the problem.

 

[Goodman]

What you need to do is RMA the card and stop bashing.
The card you have is faulty, or that something else is wrong in your system.
Filling out your system specs will help if you want to solve the problem.

I think he's only a green fanboy that is all , but hey he using old software like Furmark 1.0a , new version is out 1.7 for a while now he probably don't know what new version are for ...yeah to fix some bugs like maybe bad temperature reading..?

Anyways he probably don't even have fan's in his case to circulate air or it's a full of dust bunny...?