should i upgrade my cpu+mobo+ram for better gaming performance?

[JATownes]

Let's say this time i did the homework, cuz it reveals clearly that core i7 gives 3 times more fps (at least 1280x1024) in some cases. For the games that can run smoothly it does not mean that it is not bottlenecking.
Anyway this review is "one" of houndreds reviews that show clearly the potential of what the cpu has to do. I have to say that if you dont do the homeworks, you will wait for others to do them
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5870-cpu-scaling_4.html#sect1

So at 1920x1200 the i7 @ 3.4 vs Core2Duo @ 3.4 gains 5fps average? That is alot of money for 5 more frames.

 

[Fourstaff]

Instead of upgrading, why don't you downgrade your resolution? Problem solved without much hassle.

 

[Abir053]

Let's say this time i did the homework, cuz it reveals clearly that core i7 gives 3 times more fps (at least 1280x1024) in some cases. For the games that can run smoothly it does not mean that it is not bottlenecking.
Anyway this review is "one" of houndreds reviews that show clearly the potential of what the cpu has to do. I have to say that if you dont do the homeworks, you will wait for others to do them
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5870-cpu-scaling_4.html#sect1

thanks for a link of a great review, it clearly shows the benefit of i7 setup. but what about i5 750??

 

[erocker]

Instead of upgrading, why don't you downgrade your resolution? Problem solved without much hassle.

My head is going to explode in this thread. If you downgrade the resolution you WILL need a more powerful processor as the workload will be put on the CPU as I've already stated twice in this thread and is indeed fact. I've said what I needed to say, I guess. There's just way too much bad information and ignorance going around. What the hell is happening to TPU? :shadedshu

Let me highlight something from the forum guidelines:

Do not:
Posting useless/wrong information in response to a serious topic.

*Understandable FourStaff.

 

[Abir053]

Instead of upgrading, why don't you downgrade your resolution? Problem solved without much hassle.

what r u saying man??? we all know that lcd monitor must be used at native res.(highest) for best picture clarity.

 

[Fourstaff]

My head is going to explode in this thread. If you downgrade the resolution you WILL need a more powerful processor as the workload will be put on the CPU as I've already stated twice in this thread and is indeed fact. I've said what I needed to say, I guess. There's just way too much bad information and ignorance going around. What the hell is happening to TPU? :shadedshu

My bad, I didn't read your previous posts. I am just used to gaming with a weak graphics card and a more powerful processor.

 

[Abir053]

My head is going to explode in this thread. If you downgrade the resolution you WILL need a more powerful processor as the workload will be put on the CPU as I've already stated twice in this thread and is indeed fact. I've said what I needed to say, I guess. There's just way too much bad information and ignorance going around. What the hell is happening to TPU? :shadedshu

u r right, man. lower resolution means more cpu bound

 

[GSquadron]

I think it has to do more with your own resolution 1920x1200 than with the cpu, but anyway your cpu is not the kind who "eats" that card. Normally you can change the resolution. Try changing the resolution asfourstaff says if you dont want to spend money for nothing. Either way your resolution is the most "bottleneck" you have for now. If you lower the resolution you will have higher fps and you can see clearly the difference if you buy a new cpu. Here is a review about core i5 750, core i7 860 (my preferred one) and core i7 870, which costs too much for what it does
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-750-core-i7-860-870-processor-review-test/18

 

[brandonwh64]

what r u saying man??? we all know that lcd monitor must be used at native res.(highest) for best picture clarity.

Means get a monitor that runs 1280x1024

 

[erocker]

I think it has to do more with your own resolution 1920x1200 than with the cpu, but anyway your cpu is not the kind who "eats" that card. Normally you can change the resolution. Try changing the resolution asfourstaff says if you dont want to spend money for nothing. Either way your resolution is the most "bottleneck" you have for now. If you lower the resolution you will have higher fps and you can see clearly the difference if you buy a new cpu. Here is a review about core i5 750, core i7 860 (my preferred one) and core i7 870, which costs too much for what it does
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-750-core-i7-860-870-processor-review-test/18

Again, you are absolutely wrong. For the 4th time now, if he would lower his resolution with his current system, the graphics would become more CPU bound resulting in lower FPS and worse image quality. And yet again, you are suggesting him throwing money away on hardware he doesn't need.

 

[GSquadron]

Well it is not my fault the review show it so clearly that at lower resolutions the game runs smoother.

 

[erocker]

Well it is not my fault the review show it so clearly that at lower resolutions the game runs smoother.

1920x1080 is not a low resolution, hence it doesn't matter and is not relevant.

 

[Fourstaff]

According to OP's second post, he plays AVP at max settings. Perhaps turn down some to reduce the workload of the cpu? I cannot suggest which option will reduce the workload of the cpu by the most, someone might?

 

[erocker]

According to OP's second post, he plays AVP at max settings. Perhaps turn down some to reduce the workload of the cpu? I cannot suggest which option will reduce the workload of the cpu by the most, someone might?

Ok guyz i just checked my task manager when i'm in Avp @ highest setting and my cpu usage is 78% to 83%

Nope.

 

[Abir053]

According to OP's second post, he plays AVP at max settings. Perhaps turn down some to reduce the workload of the cpu? I cannot suggest which option will reduce the workload of the cpu by the most, someone might?

i think by reducing shadow effects the cpu offload a bit, but not that much to notice any real time difference.

 

[JATownes]

Here lets make this simple for those that CLEARLY do not understand:

Low Resolution (1024x768, 1280x1024) = Fast CPU > Fast GPU
High Resolution (1920x1080, 1920x1200) = Fast CPU < Fast GPU

Erocker is RIGHT!!! Please listen or you will end up wasting A LOT of money needlessly.

Your CPU @ 3.4 with a 5870 should run most games without any issues. Re-install Windows to get rid of the junk stuck in over time and I bet it takes off smooth. If anything, grab a quad to stick in your current board.

Too much bad info is floating in this thread. Take the advice or leave it, after all, it is your money.

 

[BraveSoul]

try turning off AA ,,, in the benchmarks it shows a gain

 

[erocker]

Going back to my recommendation earlier. This is a great site to guide you through a proper Windows reinstall, and will get your system running smooth as butter. http://www.blackviper.com/

I generally reinstall my O/S every few months or so. I'm primarily a gamer and doing this will get rid of some bloat, driver conflicts, application conflicts that like to slow down a system. Seriously though, if you need any help along the way, just let me know.

@FourStaff & Alexander. You two really need to learn some things before giving advice. I'm not ripping on your or trying to put you guys down, but giving out bad advice does a lot of harm to a thread and makes things confusing for both the people trying to give help and the one seeking help. I sincerely hope you will take this advice, as those who are trying to help using factual information are getting annoyed. This is something that is watched by moderators here, please think things through better before posting advice. Thanks.

 

[Fourstaff]

Here lets make this simple for those that CLEARLY do not understand:

Low Resolution (1024x768, 1280x1024) = Fast CPU > Fast GPU
High Resolution (1920x1080, 1920x1200) = Fast CPU < Fast GPU

Erocker is RIGHT!!! Please listen or you will end up wasting A LOT of money needlessly.

Your CPU @ 3.4 with a 5870 should run most games without any issues. Re-install Windows to get rid of the junk stuck in over time and I bet it takes off smooth. If anything, grab a quad to stick in your current board.

Too much bad info is floating in this thread. Take the advice or leave it, after all, it is your money.

I would go for this advice, especially the Re-installing Windows bit. It tends to clear out all the programs running in the background, freeing up CPU power.

Edit: It depends from user to user though, how much junk they accumulate in the background.

 

[GSquadron]

Well if erocker is that right, for me dont buy anythink, just remove the junk
What about defragmentation? Normally if you dont want to reinstall windows i think this is a good idea

 

[Frick]

Go for overclocking a bit more and a fresh install. That system is fine for gaming.

 

[Abir053]

Going back to my recommendation earlier. This is a great site to guide you through a proper Windows reinstall, and will get your system running smooth as butter. http://www.blackviper.com/

I generally reinstall my O/S every few months or so. I'm primarily a gamer and doing this will get rid of some bloat, driver conflicts, application conflicts that like to slow down a system. Seriously though, if you need any help along the way, just let me know.

thanks a lot for ur advice, i just wanted to know how good and reliable 64bit os are. coz i'm currently in 32bit win7(my ram shows 3.5gb). i mean is there any issue or conflict with 64bit os?

 

[erocker]

thanks a lot for ur advice, i just wanted to know how good and reliable 64bit os are. coz i'm currently in 32bit win7(my ram shows 3.5gb). i mean is there any issue or conflict with 64bit os?

Not at all. Win 7 x64 has been nothing but good to me so far. Really though, you won't notice much of a difference so go with what you have if it will save you money.

 

[Abir053]

Not at all. Win 7 x64 has been nothing but good to me so far. Really though, you won't notice much of a difference so go with what you have if it will save you money.

ok then, i'll install a fresh copy of win7 64bit by formatting my c drive.
i'll let u guyz know but i need a couple of days coz i'm also busy with my classes.

 

[Fourstaff]

Not at all. Win 7 x64 has been nothing but good to me so far. Really though, you won't notice much of a difference so go with what you have if it will save you money.

Win7 x64 was a royal pain in the a** when I started using it, driver conflicts for printer and so on. Its allright now that I have sorted everything (took me half a day of dedicated work trying to hunt all the drivers, I didn't know I could run virtual then). I will still recommend win7 x64 over the 32bit version though, but just to warn you that there might be some problems that require some time to fix, but not unfixable.