NVIDIA's First DirectX 11 Accelerators are GeForce GTX 480 and 470

[Benetanegia]

The problem is that the die of those fermi's are huge, so the same space ATI can put 2 or even 4? chips nvidia can only use for one, and then there's less room of the round wafer for them because you can fit less large squares in a circle, and more chance that if there's a defect on it it ruined a bigger percentage of the output they produce, so basically they are forced to make the price high, and seeing the price of the HD5850 I don't expect any fermi to be cheaper than $370, unless they make a small core version later, but that will be less powerful and industry experts wonder if they even can in the first place, the thing is designed to be big.

What are you saying? Fermi is 40-50% bigger than Cypress. The die costs more but not 2 or 4 times more. Then there's the fact of the agressive harvesting Nvidia does, etc.

On top of that even with the big die and low yields the card won't cost more than $200 to produce. Cypress costs way less than $150 according to Demerjian and TheBrightSideOfNews (each with his own sources) and the retail price is just the one they decided to put. Fermi will cost $200 to produce? But the retail price will be whatever they choose to be. They could decide to capitalize on Tesla and Quadros and sell Fermi based GeForces really cheap in order to expand Fermi installed base, which would be good and necessary to move their GPGPU initiative ahead.

 

[Wshlist]

A card isn't just a GPU. you need a multi-layer PCB and powercircuitry and DDR5 RAM and a big-ass cooler, and shipping and a box, that's all not for free, you can't say the GPU costs X and the rest is profit.

 

[OnBoard]

I expect $599 for GTX 480, $449 for GTX 470.

More like 649$ and 499$

You're on, for 1 interweb cookie.

I bet 3 Internets on bta.

I'm not believing in such a big difference in performance/price because of the naming. The second can't be too expensive though, so..

$549 $449 (and $349 for GTX 460 if/when they make one $299 for GTS 450 and $249 GT 440).

I say 899.99 for the GTX 480 and GTX 470 for 649.99 and up the ante to 2 cookies.

I'm closest! Where's my cookies But still nothing official, so you have time to buy/bake them cookies

Geforce GTX 480 aims for €450 price
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18072/1/

(boy it took long for me to find this thread )

 

[TAViX]

Geforce GTX 480 aims for €450 price
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18072/1/

(boy it took long for me to find this thread )

Yeah, but still, the 5870 is less than €350. You can even find it now at special sales at €285

ex:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103084

 

[Benetanegia]

Yeah, but still, the 5870 is less than €350. You can even find it now at special sales at €285

ex:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103084

That's not €285. That's $385, which for us europeans means €385. Remember, always remember, $1 = €1. And yeah, it sucks.

 

[cowie]

Yeah, but still, the 5870 is less than €350. You can even find it now at special sales at €285

ex:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103084

not really
that is a combo deal price
this is the lowest priced 5870 at the egg right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150476

the prices went up 20usd this week,i guess they want to get as much as they can,they must know something?

 

[Wshlist]

That's not €285. That's $385, which for us europeans means €385. Remember, always remember, $1 = €1. And yeah, it sucks.

Although there often is an unfair abuse by shops you must remember that in the US people are more left to their own devices and have less protection from the government (healthcare/unemployment/etcetera), that's why the taxes in the EU are supposedly higher, and that's why shops and importers also need to pay more tax, so it is to be expected that the prices are 20%-25% higher in the EU, but since the euro is actually valued at 35% to 50% higher than the dollar (depending on the exchange fluctuations) the 1:1 price conversion often used should already more than cover it, so that shops/manufacturers in the EU have the nerve to throw on another 50 euros or another 20% profit for themselves is pretty nasty and unfair really.