Dang Playstation 3....Takes the fun out of PC Gaming

[MatTheCat]

Yet, now years later. After fussing with patches, drivers, cracks, and you name it that comes along with PC Gaming anymore without banging you head on the desk. A Console today kind of is a smart way(should I say easy way to game).

With the PS3 it plays my normal DVDs if not better than on my PC.

The PS3 runs at 1080p on my 24'' PC monitor.

Yes, the PS3 may not have as high as grade graphics as on a PC, but they are damn close for what you get. 1080p is about the highest res that most PC gamers game at anyway.

Although the PS3 'supports' 1080p, the end result is pretty ugly. 25FPS (and less), no v-sync for many of the more 'demanding games', very low grade graphics (lower than 360 imo) ugly horrible laggy shit.

Yet, now years later. After fussing with patches, drivers, cracks, and you name it that comes along with PC Gaming anymore without banging you head on the desk. A Console today kind of is a smart way(should I say easy way to game).

So it comes down to just one thing. If you want to have a great gaming experience, and get a little extra out of your machine. Your looking for the best bang for buck for what your going to have to deal with for a year or so. It can be said(I'm almost sure of it) the smartest thing to do these days for just gaming.

The argument of all round less hassle certainly stands. PC's are pain in the arse and it si easy to spend just as much time maintaining them and sorting problems out as it is to spend time actually enjoying them.......don't get that with the consoles.

However consoles can no longer be considered best bang for bucks. Can easily build a budget PC these days that would totally spank the consoles perfomancewise.

 

[MilkyWay]

A console would make a nice entertainment centre, its much cheaper than building a media pc but that said for a main gaming platform i would choose the pc every time. The only advantage to the consoles is the xbox live arcade and PSN stores, local multiplayer like splitscreen and the exclusive games.

You act like we buy every week some of us don't, i keep hardware for at least a year and tend to upgrade in small chunks trading in old parts to partly fund a new part.

PC is not just a gaming machine either, to even do light gaming i dont need to spend big either dual cores and sub £100 graphics cards are fine for left 4 dead or Bioshock 2; maybe not full settings but decent ones. Resolution for a start is not upscaled on a pc whereas 360 and ps3 your lucky to get 720p upscaled, a BD ROM drive is about £50 now on a pc too, you've got cheaper games on pc, better graphics, ability to choose your own set up, can video/audio edit, got all your other programs apart from games, you can use a ps3 or 360 controller on a pc, your not limited to what you can do on a pc.

I think the whole pc games are neutered is absurdly exaggerated, i mean we are getting civilization 5 and star craft 2 so its not like the pc exclusive is totally dead.

Yes i do own a 360 because i have friends who own them too and i have friends who like to play splitscreen co op or 2 player when they are round but i still turn on the pc everyday. Instead of buying a PS3 i just spend money on my PC, sure i miss out on like 3 games i thought looked cool, God of War 3, MGS4 and MAG but the rest never interested me at all and i never wanted a Blu Ray player, so for me it was never a good choice personally.

Wow like one game has looked pretty good on the PS3 compared to any xbox 360 title, that will really make people buy a console over a pc. No they buy it because they are complacent and dumb and cant make decisions about graphics cards and dont understand updating drivers, consoles in that case are simple for them just shove a disk in and update the game automatically and then play.

 

[MatTheCat]

I think the whole pc games are neutered is absurdly exaggerated, i mean we are getting civilization 5 and star craft 2 so its not like the pc exclusive is totally dead.

Not totally dead no. The PC is still the undisputed home of the RTS game, but othewise, games developers are now console centric. However, this certainly has it's advantages as there is not the same push on PC gamers to continually upgrade thier equipment and aside from the odd piss poor quality port (Assassins Creed), or nasty and vicious port (Modern Warfare 2), PC gamers get a good few extra layers of lovely graphical quality that dont make it into the console versions, not to mention a lovely silky smooth 60 frames per second (providing it is halfway decent PCl). Furthermore, because developers have to squeeze all they can get out of primarily the 360, games today are a whole lot more optimised than in yesteryear. When BF2 came out, even the most powerful rigs around at the time couldn't even come close to maxing it out and it took a few generational cycles before their were rigs that could handle it. Bad Company 2 on the other hand runs like a dream on my 2 year old rig with my new 5850, and also ran very nicely on my 2 year old 4870 before. Comparing how BC2 runs with Crysis (a 3 year old PC game), BC2 is both much more graphically stunning and also runs twice as good. Had DICE not had to fit a low detail version of the game into the narrow limits of the 360, and BC2 were a PC exclusive, I could see it being in such a state that a 5970 would be struggling to max it out, never mind a 5850!

Wow like one game has looked pretty good on the PS3 compared to any xbox 360 title, that will really make people buy a console over a pc. No they buy it because they are complacent and dumb and cant make decisions about graphics cards and dont understand updating drivers, consoles in that case are simple for them just shove a disk in and update the game automatically and then play.

Don't forget, a lot of people are much more busy than you and I. If I had any kind of real family responsibility or a job that required seriously hard graft, then I simply would not have the time for a gaming PC and the amounth of 'tinkering' time involved with it. I would just want to come home, press a button and game for hour or two.

 

[keling]

Mod is one of the few things that's keeping PC gaming alive. PC means free- free updates, mods and add ons. Free means no money, I think. Console developers don't like free. Why do you think Modern Warfare 2 doesn't support modding. How can they sell a jungle camo M4A5 with nuke bullets with acoustic guidance for 7 bucks if some college kid beat them to it and distributing them for nothing?
PC also means mouse and keyboards. Console developers don't like KbMs. How can they sell Sixaxis controllers. Wii wands, PS Moves, Natals, Eyetoys and whatever if gamers suddenly can shoot better in FPS n RTS using KbMs and buy them from other manufacturers for less? I'm sure there's an anti trust issue if Sony or Microsoft force everyone to use only their brand of KbMs. As I've read in this post alone, KbMs in consoles are purely for the internet portion, surfing n typing and yet I've read numerous posters saying "I do just wish that I could plug in a keyboard, and mouse for all games."
Graphic side of things, it's a bit murky. It's eye of the beholder kind of thing. I don't deny PS3 is becoming easier to programme but that open up an interesting side of things everyone is bickering about. No matter how old or new your hardware is it's all up to software. If developers were willing, they would make incredible graphics with merely a Netbook, all through the magic of coding. And most of the problems with PC games can be blamed on shoddy coding, thus the need for patches. I remembered a developer once said they are making a game that would utilized the same CPU spec that they've started it on (C2 Quad) several years before to ensure a lot of PC gamers can enjoy the same quality no matter what their CPU are. I think the game was called Alan Wake. I wonder what happened to it. Heavy Rain was also being made for PC. They didn't say the PC can't play it, they just don't want to give it to the PC. Star Wars The Force Unleashed was said too powerful for any medium PC and just a year before a sequel, a PC version suddenly appear out of nowhere. I guess they need extra money to make the sequel's trailer. It was a laggy game but that's because they kept the graphics option hidden.

 

[DrPepper]

id definitly reccomend Pepper gaming is getting better all the time and waching br on a hd screen is just bliss.

Yeah I've seen a few HD previews and it's great but I only watch a film once then leave it. I'm fixing to get the old fat ps3 for £179 which is a steal.

 

[xero404]

i like playing sc2 too much to give the pc or any blizzard game for the matter.

 

[Champ]

I wanted a PS3 bad, but couldn't afford it so I got a 360 It's not bad, but all the good games on it are on PC or coming to.

 

[Steevo]

Runs 1080P from upscaled content, no user selection, no user customization, no upgrades.


GTA4 was done at 720, then upscaled.

 

[newtekie1]

While the PS3 might support and output games at 1080p, most are rendered at 720p and upscaled before being output. Meaning you get the image quality of 720p, not 1080p. That is one of the things that gets me when people say gaming PCs are so expensives. To get the same quality as a console, it isn't all that much more expensive. It doesn't take much to run games at 1280x720.

The hassles of PC gaming are a good reason to move to consoles, however things like steam certainly help, with the auto patching process and such. However, I will not argue one bit that gaming on consoles isn't less of a hassle.

 

[JUDOHAWK]

The ps3 complements a gaming PC nicely. I say what's the point with the 360? Most of their "good games" can be found on PC. I won't ever switch to one or the other, but you won't see me having a 360 and a PC. Just because that's ****ing pointless. Whereas the ps3 has so many exclusives you can't get on 360 OR PC.

 

[HookeyStreet]

The ps3 complements a gaming PC nicely. I say what's the point with the 360? Most of their "good games" can be found on PC. I won't ever switch to one or the other, but you won't see me having a 360 and a PC. Just because that's ****ing pointless. Whereas the ps3 has so many exclusives you can't get on 360 OR PC.

The 360 does have a few good exclusives that arent available on the PC/PS3, but I get what your saying. The PS3 exclusives do tend to be good.

 

[theonedub]

As someone with both a PS3 and a PC that could game decently, I also stick to the PS3 for games.

I like what the op was getting at. The PS3 is plug and play, no worries about system requirements, and everyone gets the same experience visually. You drop $300-$600 on hardware and you get to play all the latest games for a good 6-8 years (the last 2 years of the 10yr span being when the next gen comes out and you get Disney Games and Madden). I don't think that kind of longevity is possible with PC hardware.

 

[human_error]

The ps3 complements a gaming PC nicely. I say what's the point with the 360? Most of their "good games" can be found on PC. I won't ever switch to one or the other, but you won't see me having a 360 and a PC. Just because that's ****ing pointless. Whereas the ps3 has so many exclusives you can't get on 360 OR PC.

As an owner of the 360, ps3 and a gaming pc i disagree there. I have a lot more games for my 360 than for my ps3 - there are very few ps3 exclusives which interest me (this year it's god of war 3 and heavy rain which i may get). My 360 also has exclusives i enjoy like tales of vesperia and the halo series (yes i enjoy halo fps games - halo 3, recon and the new one this year are currently/will be exclusives). I also prefer xbox live over psn and the controllers for the 360 are a lot better IMO.

That isn't to say the 360 is better than the ps3 (or visa versa), as both fill different roles and will appeal differently to people depending on what exclusives people prefer.

The fact that trhough my xbox pc adapter i can use all my xbox360 accessories with my pc means i get a lot of value for money too - gamepads, wireless microphones, steering wheels can be a lot of clutter if you need one for the pc and a couple for each console, so i enjoy being able to use them for both units.

 

[zithe]

I don't get tempted to mod the PS3, which I love. Can't really do any noticeable upgrades other than changing the cooling fan.

 

[CyberCT]

I've always been a fan of consoles until I built my first PC in 2006 with an 8800GTX. Even then my PC would run the console varients of the games, my PC would run them at 60fps mostly, graphicly maxed, at either 720p or 1080p, depending on the game. The sad thing is that even though the PS3 & 360 both claim they run at 1080p, all they do is upscale native 720p games.

Personally, I really don't like the keyboard & mouse setup. It bothers my hands and wrists. Other than BFBC2 I use my 360 controller on all my PC games and love it. I don't really play mulitplayer games on the PC though because I know I'd get obliterated by the online players with keyboard & mouse.

I can't stand the playstation controllers. They are way to small and uncomfortable for my hand. I don't really play my 360 anymore but when project natal comes out shortly, I know that's gonna change. The wii is fun and the graphics are absolutely crap. Natal should be the best of both worlds.

 

[1Kurgan1]

I love my PS3, I think the newer consoles are great, I've always enjoyed console gaming, but I keep my console and PC gaming separate. I love racing games, and thats what consoles excels at, so thats what I play there, and more recently, some hack and slash games like GOW. Where as PC's are my FPS machines, it ends up working perfectly. I honestly think the PS3 puts out some amazing graphics, games like GOW 3, to me look as good as Crysis or anything else out there, yet their map area isn't as large and not as much is on the screen at once, and to some they might notice it, but I don't really care, they look great.

 

[sweeper]

The way I see it is if you HAVE the MONEY then do both. Build a Shit and Get PC and buy a PS3. BUT......... alot of us don't have the money to do both. I have a 'decent' PC but my PS3 is where I do most of my gaming. IMO, it's so much easier to just throw a disc in, play the game. Put a DVD in, watch a movie, Pop in a Blu-Ray and watch a movie with kick ass picture.

And yes you can play music while gaming if the music is on the PS3 you can play an entire album or randomize your playlist and game at the same time.

 

[EchoMan]

Add to the list pros of console over pc now is booting up an FPS and knowing it isn't plagued to hell and back with cheaters.

 

[JUDOHAWK]

I'm not trying to claim Consoles are better than PC, PC gaming will always be better than console gaming imo. It's just console games offer enough to justify owning one to have alongside your PC.

 

[D007]

Glad to here you like the Powerhouse PS3, enjoy Bru!

lol.. powerhouse
made me chuckle..

Console have just as many, likely more cheaters actually,
because more kids own consoles.

Hows that dx 11 on ps3?

But I can agree with this.
For the money, it's not a bad way to go..
For the longevity of the product and the amount of games, it is worth it.
IF you can't deal with the pc.
I'll take every issue that comes with a pc, for the quality and performance it brings.

Not that consoles don't have problems.
Remember not to long ago xbox360's were frying like crazy.

Not to long after. nvidia released drivers that literally fried peoples gpu's..lol..
Ahh modern technology at it's best.

 

[EchoMan]

lol.. powerhouse
made me chuckle..

EDIT: and console have just as many, likely more cheaters actually.
because more kids own consoles.

Hows that dx 11 on ps3?

Find me aimbot/wallhack for mw2 on ps3 or any FPS on the ps3.

 

[MatTheCat]

The way I see it is if you HAVE the MONEY then do both. Build a Shit and Get PC and buy a PS3. BUT......... alot of us don't have the money to do both. I have a 'decent' PC but my PS3 is where I do most of my gaming. IMO, it's so much easier to just throw a disc in, play the game. Put a DVD in, watch a movie, Pop in a Blu-Ray and watch a movie with kick ass picture.

Your PC spanks the PS3 several times over in terms of raw gaming performance. The performance of most games on PS£ really is shite imo.

If you play titles on PS3 that can be played on PC, then that is just silly.

 

[MadClown]

The ps3's blu ray drive does a great job with upscaling DVDs, there is a noticable difference between my 360 and ps3 playing a dvd on my 42'' plasma. But, I must say

Yet, now years later. After fussing with patches, drivers, cracks, and you name it that comes along with PC Gaming anymore without banging you head on the desk. A Console today kind of is a smart way(should I say easy way to game).

I banged my head on my desk to this statement, for the first time ever.

I find it hard to see patching and routine maintenance resulting in face-desking.

As much as I love my ps3, my pc has given me less troubles than any console Ive ever owned. But yes I agree, that dang ps3 took all the fun away from pc gaming because the average console gamer has an IQ lower than 30, therefore assuming pc gamers are just as stupid and the games we get on our end aren't any fun. There are diamonds in the ruff, but for the most part its true. There was a time were this wasn't much of an issue, that was before the year 2000. The Dreamcast was the last legit console that was great for gaming, most of its games are far more complex gameplay wise, than the crap today.

Nonetheless, I hope you enjoy your ps3, it still makes a great media center, and the controllers get great battery life.

 

[mdsx1950]

lol.. powerhouse
made me chuckle..

Console have just as many, likely more cheaters actually,
because more kids own consoles.

Hows that dx 11 on ps3? .

You should ask hows thats dx10 on ps3 also.

 

[DrPepper]

You should ask hows thats dx10 on ps3 also.

PS3 gets around that by using the cell processor for doing graphics as well as it's gpu.