Which 2Tb??

freaksavior · Oct 18, 2010

I could probably have accomplished this in my other thread but felt it more appropriate to start a new one

Anyway which 2 tb for raid 5 ? Going to run 4 of these.

I'm heavily considering the wd20ears since it uses the 4kb sectors giving about 100gb more.
Also thinking of the seagate lp which is 5900rpm.

Things to consider would be them running 24/7 and I need reliable.

Changnoi · Oct 18, 2010

Any drive that is RAID certified.

I'm tired of reading Newegg reviews that trash a drive for failing in RAID when the drive isn't certified for it and the person took a shortcut by buying the cheaper drive and now wants to blame anyone but themselves.

Something like this would do the trick:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136579

Seagate also makes an enterprise class drive in that size and price but my experience has been that Seagate drives are noisy.

Depending on what you're going to use this for you could consider NAS...

freaksavior · Oct 18, 2010

Changnoi said:
Any drive that is RAID certified.

I'm tired of reading Newegg reviews that trash a drive for failing in RAID when the drive isn't certified for it and the person took a shortcut by buying the cheaper drive and now wants to blame anyone but themselves.

Something like this would do the trick:

Western Digital RE4 WD2003FYYS 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB C...

Seagate also makes an enterprise class drive in that size and price but my experience has been that Seagate drives are noisy.

Depending on what you're going to use this for you could consider NAS...

Even though you have a good point with "raid certified" drives, I didn't want to spend that much per drive.

Upgrade from 1.5tb to 2tb

esberelias · Oct 18, 2010

I would go with the wd20ears... Best bang for your buck i would say. i mean sure they run at 5400 rpm but that just means less heat and power consumption. Just bought one my self actually (As a BACKUP for my other drives) and couldn't be happier with it

caleb · Oct 18, 2010

What are you talking about with Raid Certified ? This must be some marketing "feature" as why would a drive fail in raid because its not "raid certified".
Unless HDD's have brains and can sniff out that there's a RAID controller cheating them.

I have EARS and I must say its slow otherwise its pretty much a HDD.

freaksavior · Oct 18, 2010

caleb said:
What are you talking about with Raid Certified ? This must be some marketing "feature" as why would a drive fail in raid because its not "raid certified".
Unless HDD's have brains and can sniff out that there's a RAID controller cheating them.

I have EARS and I must say its slow otherwise its pretty much a HDD.

They do have a feature in the firmware that is called TLER Western Digital Time-Limited Error Recovery (TLER)

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNHSKpSlIjZkMyMqm-pmsdy3ZbaH6Q&cad=rja

newtekie1 · Oct 18, 2010

Yes, WD pretty much killed the ability to use their drives in RAID other than the RE drives by disabling TLER.

I say go with the Seagate LP drives. I've got 4, 2 in a RAID1 array and 2 in a RAID0 array, and couldn't be happier. I just ordered another 2 for a RAID box.

freaksavior · Oct 18, 2010

Just ordered 8tb.

$500 :/ sometimes I hate shopping. that's a lot of money for drives. sadly I need more space. I hope I don't regret spending $500 on hard drives.

Server will now have 4 x2tb and 2 x 1.5tb

DonInKansas · Oct 18, 2010

Dang; how much pronz do you need? :laugh:

freaksavior · Oct 18, 2010

DonInKansas said:
Dang; how much pronz do you need?

ALOT!

haha this is for ripping movies

(yes i own them)

esberelias · Oct 19, 2010

freaksavior said:
ALOT!

haha this is for ripping movies (yes i own them)

No you don't hahahaha

RejZoR · Oct 19, 2010

WD RE4 2TB. Server class reliability with almost Velociraptor performance. Only downside really is the price...

freaksavior · Oct 19, 2010

esberelias said:
No you don't hahahaha

Yes, I actually do own them.

RejZoR said:
WD RE4 2TB. Server class reliability with almost Velociraptor performance. Only downside really is the price...

Yeah, 2 problems. 1 wd, 2 $

anyways they are on their way.

caleb · Oct 19, 2010

They say on wiki u can toggle that TLER setting.

newtekie1 · Oct 19, 2010

caleb said:
They say on wiki u can toggle that TLER setting.

When they first disabled it, you could re-enable it by flashing the firmware on the drive, but they quickly permanantly disabled the feature on all but the RE class drive.

caleb · Oct 20, 2010

kk thanks I didn't know that stuff.

RejZoR · Oct 20, 2010

freaksavior said:
Yes, I actually do own them.

Yeah, 2 problems. 1 wd, 2 $

anyways they are on their way.

I can't see why WD alone can be a problem. And the price is lower than Velociraptor drive. But is bigger with essentially the same speed. And also has all the qualities of the server class RE4. In fact they are the same except that RE4 has one extra feature and extensive testing performed prior to shipping to stores to meet higher quality standards for corporate use.

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Which 2Tb??

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