Google Android users clubhouse

[HossHuge]

Hello everyone,

May I join your club? I have a Samsung Galaxy 580.

Also, I have a few questions.


1. What the hell is rooting?
2. Why can't I download from the Android Market website?

 

[digibucc]

hello
rooting unlocks the capabilities of your phone. for most people this simply means allowing you to download software for free - but in truth that's really not what it's about.

it offers about as complete customization as you can get - my recommendation though would be to use the phone for a week or two and then decide if there is anything you want it to do it can't - and then look to see if rooting offers a solution. i didn't hesitate to root my evo but that's the type of stuff i do

as for the market - i have never used the website, only the app - so idk. but is the app not available on the phone?

 

[1freedude]

Hello,

Hello everyone,

1. What the hell is rooting?
http://img.techpowerup.org/101103/Untitled410.jpg

As you may or may not recall, Android x.x is based on linux, the really complicated system that is usually virus free, very stable, and lacks hardware drivers for anything consumers use

Anyway, the reason it is stable and bug free is because it (Linux OS) wants permssion to do most anything it doesn't already do on its own. On a Windows computer, we call this Administrative Rights, or admin privileges. With these rights, you can install programs, let certain programs do the work typically done by Windows, or really hose up your machine.

In the Linux world, the same privilege is known as "root access." A separate set of (very powerful) tools are opened for your use during root access. Busybox is the set of tools. Super User (su) is the app on your phone that controls which of the other apps have access to busybox, and therefore, root access.

Really, "rooting" is something a baby does to find its mom's breast. I know this because I'm a new dad! My boy is a week old today. A big baby, 9.75 pounds (4.4 kg)!


ps, digibucc, how far upstate are you? I'm orig from Adirondacks.

 

[digibucc]

ps, digibucc, how far upstate are you? I'm orig from Adirondacks.

that's where i am

I am originally from Syracuse Area, but have been living (just barely) in the Adirondacks, Northville-for 4 years now. Loving the trails

 

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Northville

Cool! I'm in Troy (RPI), Not nearly the Adirondacks but not far away either. I was in Lake Luzerne in September.

 

[HossHuge]

Hello,
As you may or may not recall, Android x.x is based on linux, the really complicated system that is usually virus free, very stable, and lacks hardware drivers for anything consumers use

Anyway, the reason it is stable and bug free is because it (Linux OS) wants permssion to do most anything it doesn't already do on its own. On a Windows computer, we call this Administrative Rights, or admin privileges. With these rights, you can install programs, let certain programs do the work typically done by Windows, or really hose up your machine.

In the Linux world, the same privilege is known as "root access." A separate set of (very powerful) tools are opened for your use during root access. Busybox is the set of tools. Super User (su) is the app on your phone that controls which of the other apps have access to busybox, and therefore, root access.

Really, "rooting" is something a baby does to find its mom's breast.

Thanks for the info and reminding me that I really like breasts!!

Congrads on the new boy....

 

[freakshow]

i want to be in this club
i have a rooted Samsung Epic 4G with clockwork recovery mod and its fully flashed to cricket wireless (well besides MMS) by me

 

[Ahhzz]

As for your question about downloading from the market, you can't from the website. there are some pages out there (AppBrain) that let you download to the phone from a web page, but the market itself won't let you. you have to browse from your phone

 

[InnocentCriminal]

I'm officially running 2.2.

 

[1freedude]

To keep it on topic, hows the GPS work on the adk trails? It's not like they are difficult to navigate, but tracking and such...also how does the canopy interfere?
I'm from tupper lake BTW, and my brother was a guide on the Hudson in north creek this summer

I'm officially running 2.2.

...and how is it? I'm still waiting. I did get to see the international edition last week. I was helping Bob Beggs on his new sailboat, and he has one. We didn't have enough time to compare phones side by side...

 

[digibucc]

To keep it on topic, hows the GPS work on the adk trails? It's not like they are difficult to navigate, but tracking and such...also how does the canopy interfere? I'm from tupper lake BTW, and my brother was a guide on the Hudson in north creek this summer

GPS works well...I actually got a Garmin eTrex Summit after spending a few hours looking for a trail one day I also tested the GPS on my evo, which will locate me but not give directions as there is no cell signal 90% of the time...

the trails are good, but i wanted to go off trail and not die so i figured that the safest way... in addition to finally understanding declination and how to read a topo map properly the canopy can be an issue, even with the eTrex - it will take a minute or two to allocate sometimes, and the higher i raise it the better it works...

...and how is it? I'm still waiting. I did get to see the international edition last week. I was helping Bob Beggs on his new sailboat, and he has one. We didn't have enough time to compare phones side by side...

I have 2.2, but it was already on the Evo when i first got it, so i've never used anything but, to compare it to.... my Archos 101IT should be in early next week, with 2.1 ... so I will finally see the difference, which i have heard is pretty massive. and then update it to 2.2 as soon as it's possible

 

[InnocentCriminal]

...and how is it? I'm still waiting. I did get to see the international edition last week. I was helping Bob Beggs on his new sailboat, and he has one. We didn't have enough time to compare phones side by side...

So far, it's pretty good. Haven't seen any lag yet, but that could be said for when I originally got my phone which obviously had 2.1.

It feels slightly more responsive, I like the UI improvements but I'll keep on playing and see what else happens.

 

[1freedude]

IC, is touchwiz built in? Also, did you get things situated with download-mode? I saw something in the vibrant forums on xda about making a special USB cable that emulates a test bench. I'm on my phone now, but will edit this to include the link later. They call it a jig.

And now about GPS...I have mucho experience with GPS units and software. Trimble, Garmin, DeLorme...these things have agps, which really sucks. Nothing beats a handheld while tromping through the north country. I bought my dad an etrex off Craigslist. He uses Google earth to get his track and custom poi's (some ridge that might overlook a pond). The way I see it, start simple, get used to the equipment, and upgrade when what you have doesn't do what you need it to.

So, the fact that our phones don't have map bases, and can't be used as dedicated GPS makes me forget about it. Although I actually have a road map base (an app called Maps(-) ), that ain't gonna cut it in the outback.

 

[InnocentCriminal]

IC, is touchwiz built in? Also, did you get things situated with download-mode? I saw something in the vibrant forums on xda about making a special USB cable that emulates a test bench. I'm on my phone now, but will edit this to include the link later. They call it a jig.

TouchWiz is built in yeah, I'm starting to get used to it now, but I'm tempted to try out others such as LauncherPro. In regards to download mode, just upgrading via Kies did. Didn't have to initiate anything on the phone manually, if that's what you mean?

 

[1freedude]

I was thinking of using Odin or being able to flash update.zip's

Anyway, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551

I'm unofficially on 2.2. Its cool, tpu's emoticons move now!!!

 

[HossHuge]

I swear to God, I'm going to kick the next person in the genitals (boy or girl) that asks me if my phone is an iphone. Then they go "oh" when I tell them it's not........

 

[DanishDevil]

I had a girl ask me what kind of iPhone my phone was (Droid Incredible) and I told her it wasn't an iPhone. And she said, "Oh, well that's stupid that Verizon would come out with that when they're going to get the iPhone anyway." It took every ounce of self restraint in my body to not fire a barrage of information at her and teach her a fucking lesson.

 

[King Wookie]

My reply is I wanted something better.

 

[Bo$$]

I swear to God, I'm going to kick the next person in the genitals (boy or girl) that asks me if my phone is an iphone. Then they go "oh" when I tell them it's not........

some people really have no clue that there other phones with a touch screen...

 

[HossHuge]

some people really have no clue that there other phones with a touch screen...

It's probably the same people who think a 360 or PS3 is faster than a decent computer.....

 

[Bo$$]

It's probably the same people who think a 360 or PS3 is faster than a decent computer.....

one of my best mates gets proper agressive about the PC vs consoles (360 fanboy) discussion, insists that using a keyboard and mouse means you cannot play any decent games, and it is ONLY posible on the 360 because the joysticks move in a 3d motion or someshit like that , i said wait for multiplatform games, then play me bitch!

 

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

OT:
yeah anyone making the PC vs 360 argument just needs to see the absolutely abysmal 360 COD:BO multiplayer graphics.... I seriously cant believe I bought this game... but a few of my fraternity bros play it and Its fun to get lan games in once in a while.

/OT sorry

 

[1freedude]

Ok, mini poll:
how often do you get asked if your Android phone is an iPhone?

my vibrant looks like the 3gs, so I get asked all the time. I say "no, this is a Samsung."

If i'm inquisitive about someone's phone or gadget, i say...What ya got there?

I swear to God, I'm going to kick the next person in the genitals (boy or girl) that asks me if my phone is an iphone. Then they go "oh" when I tell them it's not........

I had a girl ask me what kind of iPhone my phone was (Droid Incredible) and I told her it wasn't an iPhone. And she said, "Oh, well that's stupid that Verizon would come out with that when they're going to get the iPhone anyway." It took every ounce of self restraint in my body to not fire a barrage of information at her and teach her a fucking lesson.

that reminds me of my roommate at NATTC...he says I'm going to get a coke, do you want one? I say sure. He says, what kind?!? (i didn't know coke was generic for soda, and i guess she doesn't know apple makes the iphone).

My reply is I wanted something better.

some people really have no clue that there other phones with a touch screen...

I knew it would take some time, but you guys are slow!

 

[trt740]

Anyone played this on your Android it's WOW!!! for your phone and very cool Pocketlegends a true MMO for your Android http://www.spacetimestudios.com/content.php?11 I think it's cool as hell.

 

[Bo$$]

Anyone played this on your Android it's WOW!!! for your phone and very cool Pocketlegends a true MMO for your Android http://www.spacetimestudios.com/content.php?11 I think it's cool as hell.

yep it is really quite good