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[newguy24]

for around $100 these are the best stereo set M-AUDIO Studiophile AV 30 2.0 Compact Desktop Spea.... Definitely worth it, I have heard them in person against the bose companion 2 and the M-audio blow the bose out of the water.

they sure look nice, don't know much about them :/

i may just get a cheap pair, kinda like the keyboard just something for now so i can save money and get something after holidays.....maybe minus the bose (90$) add 10-15$ ones and possible save cash or upgrade motherboard/memory/SSD drive/printer??????? idk which one....probably get them as holiday gift...

 

[newguy24]

bose is a name unfortunately. You can find good quality for less price, but then again if they are "free" then yes they're worth it.

Also, don't count on the MIR from azza. I don't believe I ever received mine from them
I should have seen it coming when the manual was written in fairly broken english, it looked like they used freetranslator.com to get it figured out haha. Also, the front audio jack is crap on it. It hisses more than anything I've ever heard but it's not much a problem for me as I just use the one on my G110 instead.

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX ...

this a good case?

what memory would you all get corsair dominator or corsair XMS3 its the same memory but cas latency is 9-9-9-24 on dominator , XMS3 is 8-8-8-24......LMK

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3...

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM...

any know a great case for under 100$

also guys here is the GPU card i have with my system.....id like to stay with EVGA
EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB...
now looking at other cards and knowing i can overclock them , would any of these be better choice?plus save cash...
EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB...
EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 25...

im personally thinking the GTX 465 and save 60$(plus i like the instant savings , not having to wait for a mail-in rebate)

 

[jasper1605]

wow that's not good was really liking this case....any other one you would suggest??? man i liked the fans in this case.

The antec 900 is pretty similar to it. Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Compu...

they're the same width as each other but the antec is about an inch less deep and 2 inches shorter in height but that shouldn't affect you.

edit: now that I read what you just posted, the nzxt is a sweet lookin' case though that's all i can comment on it as I don't know much else about how it performs. I'd say based on our nzxt fanclub that you would be happy with it.

And I would definitely get the cas 8 ram as 9's will negate the 1600mhz speed.

 

[newguy24]

The antec 900 is pretty similar to it. Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Compu...

they're the same width as each other but the antec is about an inch less deep and 2 inches shorter in height but that shouldn't affect you.

edit: now that I read what you just posted, the nzxt is a sweet lookin' case though that's all i can comment on it as I don't know much else about how it performs. I'd say based on our nzxt fanclub that you would be happy with it.

And I would definitely get the cas 8 ram as 9's will negate the 1600mhz speed.

probably go this route cheap and 7's should be good

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3...

 

[newguy24]

OK SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YA THINK AND IF THIS IS ALL COMPATIBLE I'M ABOUT TO BUY IT FRIDAY......



thanks i hope it is compatible.....do i need any cords or wires??
mobo good?
gpu good?
psu good?
memory good?
please lmk...im really worried about getting this and something missing or something not compatible.

 

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

6ft HMDI cable - $2.33 dont get ripped off paying that much. ---EDIT: oops didnt see the discount on the HDMI

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00123WZWK/?tag=tec06d-20

also MX2 whoops AS5. ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound

 

[Fourstaff]

Graphics card is a tad weak compared to the processor, I personally think you should go for something better but its a good card. No reason to get the MX-2 if your other choice is AS5, I think its just a matter of preference. I believe the H50 comes with pre applied TIM, so you can get away without one. WD green is a bad choice for a harddisk, because it will be (along with the graphics card) bottleneck the processor.

Personally, I will drop the processor to i5 760, and balance up the entire rig with 6870(or 2 6850 if you can squeeze it in), and WD black.

 

[newguy24]

Graphics card is a tad weak compared to the processor, I personally think you should go for something better but its a good card. No reason to get the MX-2 if your other choice is AS5, I think its just a matter of preference. I believe the H50 comes with pre applied TIM, so you can get away without one. WD green is a bad choice for a harddisk, because it will be (along with the graphics card) bottleneck the processor.

Personally, I will drop the processor to i5 760, and balance up the entire rig with 6870(or 2 6850 if you can squeeze it in), and WD black.

changing hard drive is no issue.....ill bump up the graphics card to the orginal....but why change cpu?? isnt i7-950 good??

 

[newguy24]

changing hard drive is no issue.....ill bump up the graphics card to the orginal....but why change cpu?? isnt i7-950 good??

hard drive ill do...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 ...

even though i don't know the difference in this card or the card i picked, besides the clocking , which i can overclock my self...i could choose this card?? worth it??

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB...


no one seems to like evga??

now im getting confused on this card issue!!! the one thats 50$ less seems like its just as good i guess


is this mobo a good choice??

 

[newguy24]

any have any thoughts for me on this?? is it all compatible?? im more then likely buying it tomorrow
need to add 200$ for cpu at micro center i7950...so total of little under 1500...maybe when i call i get a promo code, or find free shipping...LMK what you guys think...really wanna know if its all compatible and if i need any more wires or not?

 

[Fourstaff]

I am not too sure about the open box Sabertooth, but to be on the safe side I think you should buy a Sata cable, unless the Seagate offers a Sata cable. Everything looks good except the kb+mouse+speaker but that can be upgraded in the future. Is the Blu-ray writer that important? Personally I would get a bluray reader right now, then upgrade to bluray writer in the future when its dirt cheap and I actually find some use out of it.

 

[jasper1605]

but why change cpu?? isnt i7-950 good??

Yes it is a great processor, but it's massively overkill for gaming right now. Fourstaff's rec for a i5-760 is one I agree with as it is a quad core still and great for gaming and a lot easier on the wallet. The 950 essentially gives you 8 threads of which most games hardly use even 3 so even the 760 has one just kind of idle core sitting there.

Obviously the 950 is more futureproofed and you can do folding/crunching/encoding with it a lot easier too, but gaming performance will not see much noticeable difference between the two.

 

[newguy24]

I am not too sure about the open box Sabertooth, but to be on the safe side I think you should buy a Sata cable, unless the Seagate offers a Sata cable. Everything looks good except the kb+mouse+speaker but that can be upgraded in the future. Is the Blu-ray writer that important? Personally I would get a bluray reader right now, then upgrade to bluray writer in the future when its dirt cheap and I actually find some use out of it.

well the blue ray is a reader and a writer....so i mean for ano extra 40$ i might as well get it....ill be thinking about it, i probably wont write many Blue rays lol , so you could be right

LG Black 10X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-...

as for the sabertooth you mean your not sure about it because of the item it self? or you dont know if it will come with the cords needed??

what i could do is but a NEW in box sabertooth, its an extra 50$ then drop the blue ray writer...only be about 10$ more.... just a thought

lmk what ya think

 

[jasper1605]

I approve of your last suggestion newguy. I don't trust open box at all. It's way too much of a crapshoot for my tastes as to whether you'll get all the things needed or whether it works at all. Newer is much nicer or used from a trusted source (like us at tpu )

 

[n-ster]

I do not approve of open box motherboards either I shall post a proposed build soon

 

[n-ster]

Once You Know, You Newegg









plus Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

and from ewiz

and 199.99$ + tax from Microcenter for the i7 950


Total from Newegg 1249.86$ + 28.28$ ship - 30$ MIR
Total from ewiz 81.87$ + 3.99$ ship
Total from Microcenter 199.99$ + ~8.70$ tax?

Total = 1542.68$

Now for the optional add-ons:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SC-XONARDS&title=Asus-Xonar-DS-PCI-7-1-Channel-Sound-Card will cost you 44.99 - 0.90$ promo code = 44.09 + 9$ ship = 53.09$ - 10$ MIR = 43.09$ (STRONGLY SUGGEST THIS IF YOU ARE INTO MUSIC)

You could also replace the KTC combo by an M6880 or X5 mouse (19.99 - 5$ and 35$ respectively)and a keyboard <15$ and if speakers are a must, <20$ speakers though I'd suggest JVC RX500 ~30$ headphones (STRONGLY SUGGEST ABANDONING THE KTC COMBO AND DO THIS)

You could buy Cooler Master BLUE LED R4 fans, 2 or 3 of them, 2 for the HSF, a 3rd if you want to change the exhaust fan too. You could also buy a 2 pack of 12" BLUE Cold cathodes (this would just look cool and help temps a tiny little bit... this is exactly what I did)

 

[Fourstaff]

as for the sabertooth you mean your not sure about it because of the item it self? or you dont know if it will come with the cords needed??

what i could do is but a NEW in box sabertooth, its an extra 50$ then drop the blue ray writer...only be about 10$ more.... just a thought

Just the fancy cords and backplate, the cords can be easily sourced, the backplate might be a headache. Looks like n-ster patched you up with a build which looks very promising to me, except for the 212+. 1366 will make the 212+ melt if you plan to do heavy OC. Drop off the second DVD drive in exchange for a more powerful cooler. From my experience you wouldn't need the second DVD drive.

 

[n-ster]

Fourstaff, I'll have to disagree here... My Hyper 212+ keeps my i7 920 D0 at 4.0X GHZ pretty cool. I can do a test today if you'd like, but in the meantime I'll find a review for you lol

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ster-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review-10.html

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ster-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review-11.html

To me reviews dont mean shit though, so I'll post some SS of IBT doing some work on my comp lol. Keep in mind the OC that I did was a *Go in BIOS, bump up voltage and multi to 21x and thing to 191* BAM! finished OC, to lazy to optimize OC lol

 

[Fourstaff]

Fourstaff, I'll have to disagree here... My Hyper 212+ keeps my i7 920 D0 at 4.0X GHZ pretty cool. I can do a test today if you'd like, but in the meantime I'll find a review for you lol

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ster-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review-10.html

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ster-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review-11.html

To me reviews dont mean shit though, so I'll post some SS of IBT doing some work on my comp lol. Keep in mind the OC that I did was a *Go in BIOS, bump up voltage and multi to 21x and thing to 191* BAM! finished OC, to lazy to optimize OC lol

How interesting, I always thought the 212+ is behind the 1283, but I am proven wrong. Perhaps I compared it with the 212 instead.

 

[newguy24]

wow....so very confused lol, i don't know i just see things like the memory and don't know the brand , and also don't know why there 3 of them...wouldn't that be 6x2gb sticks??? would i have enough slots ....haha....so of the stuff i see in the build is just not familiar to me...the lite on blue ray driver...is that better then LG?? also see 1 asus dvd burner....is that also better then LG?(fourstaff said ya had two?i don't see 2) motherboard looks nice...is the radeon better then evga? you have a 26Z$ cooler for cpu, this is better then a watered cpu cooler?? im not question you in anyway!! im just wondering...nipplon better then rosewill? i guess brands dont matter much...but as far as the memory...3X2X2gb? isnt that 6X2gb sticks?? lol and this is better then corsair?(same price) thank you so much....also what is ewiz ......looks like it may take me alittle longer lol

 

[n-ster]

Yes its the same price as corsair but twice the memory lol... yesit means 6x2GB, which means TRIPPLE CHANNEL instead of DUAL CHANNEL... obviously tripple channel is better

Brands do not mean much, and yes the 6870 beats the hell out of GTX 460 1GB, but also, XFX has a DOUBLE LIFETIME WARRANTY and has the best resell value later on

Yes, both the lite-on and ASUS drives are better than LG. The 26$ cooler performs practically the same as the H50... H50 is a gimmick, a real watercooled CPU i when there are tubes (a watercooling loop)

Also, the case I chose for you in PURE AWESOMENESS lol, I have it, and I can tell you that for someone new to computer building, YOU CANNOT FIND AN EASIER CASE TO BUILD WITH


JUST DO IT! (I mean buy it lol)

 

[jasper1605]

n-ster. wouldn't it be better(cheaper) to just sit w/ 3x2gb instead of going w/ 6 sticks? Unless he's sporting some photoshop with 23 layers and 40 programs opening simultaneously wouldn't 12 gb just kind of sit not being used? 6 gigs does quite well for i7s

 

[n-ster]

I would agree, however at 138$ for 12GB, it is extremely cheap, and it seems that he is prefers to not touch much of the insides again after the initial build. Plus matching RAM and filled slots look sexy He'll be paying 75$ for 6gb so 63$ for another set is not going to be matched for a long time

 

[jasper1605]

lol, that's $63 of vanity right there haha. Even if it is a good "deal" for something, it's not much of a deal if you pay extra for something you won't use. I'd cut down to 6gb and shoot for 2000mhz

 

[n-ster]

He will need more than 6gb in the future at some point IMO, and 12gb just future proofs everything...

You can also do a nice RAMdisk with his favorite game (if it is under 8GB) for extreme loading speeds, he can use it for extreme compression because apparently he transfer a lot of data, he can use it as a temp to utilise the SSD less to prolong it's life, he can also install any other program really while keeping all his files safe. putting a web browser + a few very utilized programs can be very fun and useful

I also think that by march/april , RAM prices will shoot back up to the 120~150$/6gb, where he can resell for a profit if he finds more than 6GB unuseful

Where as 6-8 moths from now, if he starts doing new stuff or realizes it would be nice to have more RAM, he'll have to pay more than double than the 63$ he'll pay now. I know I regret not having the money right now to buy some RAM and I'm doing all sorts of things to get the money in order to have at least 12GB If not 18GB

At the end, it is his choice, this is what I suggest, but going 3x2GB is FAR from being unreasonable or anything, but going 12GB is not idiotic either. However, I though having more than 6GB was stupid until I bought 6GB to resell my other 6GB, during a week I had that extra RAM and I MISS IT lol