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Fake or real? AMD Bulldozer

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Its from Semi-accurate. Possibly from that propaganda artist and yutz Charlie D. 'nuff said.

Heh, #23. :)
 
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You mean that AMD doesn't use 90s techno music on its presentations??! :( /sarcasm/
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the wafer was real. It's one of those things that I can't verify because I was not there. I would be stunned if Charlie photoshopped a different wafer to get that picture, that is not his style. If I was in a casino and had to bet real or fake, I would definitely give him the benefit of the doubt. But I am not in a casino, so I get to say "I dont know".
 

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i just wish bulldozer would arrive sooner, the wait for the new chips is starting to make me lean towards intel for upgrades as my Phenom II just cant offer the bandwidth for 6970 xfire, so while i expect these benchmarks to all be fake halfassed trash that shouldnt be given the light of day, many will see it and those sites will get hits meaning they make money which is what its all about, come on guys, we all know you cant believe any of this shit till real reviews when has pre release leaks been right in terms of performance?
 
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i just wish bulldozer would arrive sooner, the wait for the new chips is starting to make me lean towards intel for upgrades as my Phenom II just cant offer the bandwidth for 6970 xfire, so while i expect these benchmarks to all be fake halfassed trash that shouldnt be given the light of day, many will see it and those sites will get hits meaning they make money which is what its all about, come on guys, we all know you cant believe any of this shit till real reviews when has pre release leaks been right in terms of performance?

Sorry! if i am way off here (no experiences with xfire or sli , yet) so don't be to hard on me ;)

But i seriously doubt that you'll get that much more on a Intel system compare to PII at most you'll get what? 3-5fp/s more or if lucky up to 10fp/s at best? in rare situation hardly a noticeable differences while playing games i'll say

For benchmarks that meant be a different story but than again who build a PC for benchmarks only system?
 

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i just wish bulldozer would arrive sooner, the wait for the new chips is starting to make me lean towards intel for upgrades as my Phenom II just cant offer the bandwidth for 6970 xfire, so while i expect these benchmarks to all be fake halfassed trash that shouldnt be given the light of day, many will see it and those sites will get hits meaning they make money which is what its all about, come on guys, we all know you cant believe any of this shit till real reviews when has pre release leaks been right in terms of performance?
Sometimes the cats in China pull fresh info out of thin air, months before it hits the legitimate realm. So I'll peek, with all my ad blockers enabled (see my sig), and give a slight chuckle when it doesn't meet my standards of rigger. They can only lose money from leechers such as myself.

Everyone wishes Bulldozer would come out sooner, probably even AMD.

Also, I'm happy to say that I called this one (as I have a 99% success rate) in the post just before JF-AMD's revelation. I've always thought they should teach "calling bullshit" in schools. :D
 

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Sorry! if i am way off here (no experiences with xfire or sli , yet) so don't be to hard on me ;)

But i seriously doubt that you'll get that much more on a Intel system compare to PII at most you'll get what? 3-5fp/s more or if lucky up to 10fp/s at best? in rare situation hardly a noticeable differences while playing games i'll say

For benchmarks that meant be a different story but than again who build a PC for benchmarks only system?

to be blunt in the majority of games ive tested im actually 10-15fps slower in a multi gpu config then a comparable intel system and it seems to be memory bandwidth that causes the problem but in general yes AMD is inferior in a multi gpu situation, especially at the high end, mid range its not a big deal, but it has been mentioned more then once to be memory bottleneck in terms of overall bandwidth,

example upping clock speed from 3.4 to 4ghz offers me no gain but upping the CPU-NB which ups the L3 speed makes a noticeable impact, in general my crossfire scaling at same settings vs a similar intel rig is about 25-35% off what it should be, some have better luck then others on AMD, but a good example would be games like crysis, testing at the same settings my AMD system is 12-17fps slower on average, and this trend continues on into many other titles, with systems based on socket 775 theres a parity but 1155 1156 1336 the dual gpu scaling for crossfire is higher then on AMD.

and i wouldnt call 30-40fps slower in Battlefield badcompany 2 a small difference,

comparable Intel rig same gpus will average in 125fps range where as my overclocked gpu and cpu get only 85-90 in the same settings compared to w1zzards reviews, granted no ones hardware config is exactly the same, that said it dosent take a genius for me to run my games and compare performance across the board, I am and enthusiast, im hoping bulldozer delievers on what i need if it dosent ill find what i need with Intel its that simple, But comparing performance in the top 10 games i play, an Intel based system would offer nearly 20-35% better crossfire scaling, sad thing is that the gain from a stock intel cpu would still be enough to actually be felt in the games compared to my fully overclocked AMD rig before i encountered some problems,

but for example

Battlefield Bad Company 2
AMD: 85fps avg
Intel: 125fps avg

Crysis
AMD: 54 fps avg
Intel: 68 fps avg

i can grab more examples in terms of my systems performance on the AMD front its where it should be in terms of overall its lower then an intel rig by a considerable margin, is it noticable to me yes very much show, noticeable for others maybe not, but when you pay $750 for 2x gpus you want to get the most from them right now my AMD setup dosent do that. If i could maybe break 3000mhz Cpu-NB speeds and get my ram up to 1600 cl 7 i might gain a few % in the xfire scaling, but it already takes 1.45v to get 2800nb stable compared to 1.1 needed for 2600, as you can guess 3000 isnt attainable by my chip, overall the situation is what it is.

I am patiently waiting for bulldozer to appear, either my motherboard or PSU is dying, and replacments would cost me to the point a new rig is more economical in price to performance, so ill continue to wait for hard facts and performance numbers if AMD delievers thats great if not well there is an alternative :toast:
 
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