Seagate woes

[freaksavior]

Has anybody else had issues with Seagate that last 4-5 months?

I've had in total 4 1.5Tb 7200.11's, 2x 7200.11 500gbs, and 1 7200.12 die on me. No power surges or heavy usage, they run all day that is all. I currently have 4 x 2tb and 2 x 1.5tb along with a 40gb seagate in my server and i'm getting scared. While I typed this, it 'clicked' and froze the computer again.

Seagate RMA has always been great, but with the amount of drives i've sent in, it's getting very annoying (and expensive). My dad's 500gb died, I could tell becuase of the random lock up which is what my htpc is doing now. He bought a Samsung F3 because even he was getting annoyed at the drive dying constantly. Once I get this 1.5tb from RMA, I think my 5 year love for Seagate is going gone.

WD - X
Seagate - X
That leaves me with Samsung

I'm running out of drive manufactures to hate.

Edit: Locked up 5 times while I wrote this.

 

[erocker]

I would start thinking the problem is with your motherboard. Perhaps the south bridge or whatever controls your HDD's is on it's way out.

 

[95Viper]

Wow, sorry, freaksavior!

Yep, erocker may have something there, something is not kosher.

I have a Seagate ST31000528AS 1 gig Firmware(CC46) and have had no problems. Quiet, smooth; and, I am knocking on wood, no hiccups.
Been lucky, I guess, Have not had, but one drive die on me in years. Still using a couple of old IDE(PATA) drives from Pentium 4 days. I prefer, in this order, and only certain series; WD, Seagate, Samsung, Hitachi, and then others. Just my thing. Unless, they are free, then who cares.
My drives run, usually, 10 to 12 hours a day; at approximately, 29C to 31C.

Have you updated to the latest firmware, if available.

You can plug in your serial numbers here and check: Seagate serial number checker

Have you checked your operating temps on the drives.
You might want to check the status, every once in a while, of the smart data.

 

[freaksavior]

Wow, sorry, freaksavior!

Yep, erocker may have something there, something is not kosher.

I have a Seagate ST31000528AS 1 gig Firmware(CC46) and have had no problems. Quiet, smooth; and, I am knocking on wood, no hiccups.
Been lucky, I guess, Have not had, but one drive die on me in years. Still using a couple of old IDE(PATA) drives from Pentium 4 days. I prefer, in this order, and only certain series; WD, Seagate, Samsung, Hitachi, and then others. Just my thing. Unless, they are free, then who cares.
My drives run, usually, 10 to 12 hours a day; at approximately, 29C to 31C.

Have you updated to the latest firmware, if available.

You can plug in your serial numbers here and check: Seagate serial number checker

Have you checked your operating temps on the drives.
You might want to check the status, every once in a while, of the smart data.

I haven't monitored the drives, but ambient temp is usually low 70's f

I would start thinking the problem is with your motherboard. Perhaps the south bridge or whatever controls your HDD's is on it's way out.

Its not all on the same system. So highly doubt it.
P45, x 58 and the raid controller from the server.

 

[brandonwh64]

I went through 3 1.5TB 7,200.11 drives before i switched to WD. :/

 

[_JP_]

The bigger GB sized 7200.11 HDDs had faulty firmwares that caused those disks to loose data over time. It was a well known issue over at Seagate, but they weren't willing to admit it for a while. Then everybody started complaining and they looked into the problem. The latest firmware for those drives is available at their site and the results indicate that it will solve the problem, but not the lost data/space, if there was any.
And it was just that model (in it's bigger storage size versions) that was particularly problematic.

 

[freaksavior]

The bigger GB sized 7200.11 HDDs had faulty firmwares that caused those disks to loose data over time. It was a well known issue over at Seagate, but they weren't willing to admit it for a while. Then everybody started complaining and they looked into the problem. The latest firmware for those drives is available at their site and the results indicate that it will solve the problem, but not the lost data/space, if there was any.
And it was just that model (in it's bigger storage size versions) that was particularly problematic.

Yup, I remember that. I had made sure these were the latest. I'm just a bit tired of dying drives. I have nearly 18tb of hard disk space in my house and it's all with Seagate.

 

[jpierce55]

Freaksaviour, I used to go with WD, and bought 2 that died 1 right after another a couple of years back. The last HDD I bought was a Hitachi, and it is nice. It is quiet, and faster than the WD I had that was supposed to be faster.

 

[JrRacinFan]

@ 95viper & Freak

Same situation with 7200.12's in my cousin's machine. He's got a total of 6 1TB models and no issues as of yet that I have heard about, he usually calls me and bitches/complains about everything wrong with his pc when he has an issue. I guess it's a brand to brand thing as I have been on WD for years until I started using a samsung & hitachi drives. Didn't lose the love for WD just gained more respect for other companies.

 

[freaksavior]

Freaksaviour, I used to go with WD, and bought 2 that died 1 right after another a couple of years back. The last HDD I bought was a Hitachi, and it is nice. It is quiet, and faster than the WD I had that was supposed to be faster.

@ 95viper & Freak

Same situation with 7200.12's in my cousin's machine. He's got a total of 6 1TB models and no issues as of yet that I have heard about, he usually calls me and bitches/complains about everything wrong with his pc when he has an issue. I guess it's a brand to brand thing as I have been on WD for years until I started using a samsung & hitachi drives. Didn't lose the love for WD just gained more respect for other companies.

I never lost the love for either one, I still like seagate, i'm just sick of drives dying on me I fear the day my 8tb array dies. I sadly just don't have the $ to create a backup system for it.

My two 1.5tbs in raid are setup for 1 so if one dies (which I fully expect at this point) then i'll still have the important data.

 

[MilkyWay]

Idk might just be bad luck since the instances are so unconnected, could be something to do with power though as that seems the only likely link. A power surge in the houses circuit a bad fuse idk can that even damage a drive?

Only drive i had die was an old Samsung and that was within a month so i think it was a transit issue or a factory issue, the F1 i use its still strong. Got a seagate as backup and it does the job they always seemed like decent drives to me, i used to use maxtor years ago though.

 

[erocker]

Its not all on the same system. So highly doubt it.
P45, x 58 and the raid controller from the server.

Well, I'm stumped. Between my computers at home and at work I have several of those same HDD's and other brands and have had no problems, even in a harsh environment at work.

*Chipset drivers up to date? Just taking shots in the dark...

 

[chuchnit]

Are you running all of these drives in a RAID array of some form or fashion? Any of them die that ran in single drive config? I know Seagate and WD screwed up RAID on consumer drives with TLER. Really just a cheap way to force people into buying enterprise level drives. IIRC, Samsung and Hitachi do not do this yet.

 

[Deleted member 3]

I have 6 1.5TB seagates, they run fine. Though older firmwares are known to brick the drives. I'm running CC1H which is fine.

 

[Black Panther]

It's somewhat notorious that the more modern larger Seagates suffer from the 'click of death'... - google it or do a youtube search for "Seagate click of death" to see what I mean.

Personally I've been running a Seagate Barracuda 320GB now since 2007, cool and noise free.

On the other hand my dad bought a 2TB Seagate for storage and within 6 weeks it started clicking occasionally and freezing his pc for 5 seconds every 10 minutes while viewing videos. Scan computers gave him his money back immediately, even though technically the drive was still 'working'.

 

[freaksavior]

Well, I'm stumped. Between my computers at home and at work I have several of those same HDD's and other brands and have had no problems, even in a harsh environment at work.

*Chipset drivers up to date? Just taking shots in the dark...

I've been bad about not keeping stuff most up to date, but the os is only about 3-4 months old, so they are pretty recent drivers.

I've had a 750gb on the system for over 1 year with 0 issues, I think it's a diver issue not a mobo issue.

Are you running all of these drives in a RAID array of some form or fashion? Any of them die that ran in single drive config? I know Seagate and WD screwed up RAID on consumer drives with TLER. Really just a cheap way to force people into buying enterprise level drives. IIRC, Samsung and Hitachi do not do this yet.

2 are, 2 are not. I ran all 4 in raid until I upgraded to 2Tb's

I have 6 1.5TB seagates, they run fine. Though older firmwares are known to brick the drives. I'm running CC1H which is fine.

I'm pretty sure all the 1.5tb's I've gotten where the newest frimware.

It's somewhat notorious that the more modern larger Seagates suffer from the 'click of death'... - google it or do a youtube search for "Seagate click of death" to see what I mean.

Personally I've been running a Seagate Barracuda 320GB now since 2007, cool and noise free.

On the other hand my dad bought a 2TB Seagate for storage and within 6 weeks it started clicking occasionally and freezing his pc for 5 seconds every 10 minutes while viewing videos. Scan computers gave him his money back immediately, even though technically the drive was still 'working'.

That is precisely what they are doing. They are not dead, but they click and freeze the machine, eventually leading to death.

I'm not complaining as I know mechanical drives die, but i'm tired of this happening. Shipping is $9 each time and i've stopped keeping extra computer hardware around.

Out of the 4 x 1.5tb's only 1 hasn't been rma's and one will be on the second drive.

Everything is on a surge protector also and the server was on a battery backups so I don't know at this point. I'm going to RMA it of course once I get my 500gb back from RMA.

Maybe i'll get a wd or a samsung.

 

[n-ster]

I have 2* 1TB 7200.12 in RAID 0 an they are performing great. 8 months or so old only though

 

[chuchnit]

2 are, 2 are not. I ran all 4 in raid until I upgraded to 2Tb's

Ya the problem would stop as soon as you put them in a single disk setup. Basically all that happens is the it times out for too long and the controller drops the drive out of the array.

 

[freaksavior]

Ya the problem would stop as soon as you put them in a single disk setup. Basically all that happens is the it times out for too long and the controller drops the drive out of the array.

I rarely had issues with them in raid, it was once I put them in single disks

either way just wanted opinions. it's getting rma'd

 

[chuchnit]

hmm well I would just say it's bad luck but that's too many drives to be bad luck. I've had good success with seagate but I've stayed away for a while after I saw so many forum posts about dead/dying drives (excluding the firmware issue).

 

[Deleted member 3]

I'm pretty sure all the 1.5tb's I've gotten where the newest frimware.

You actually dare to rely on being "pretty sure"? Verify.

 

[overclocking101]

I have never had luck with seagate myself. i have always gone through more seagate drives then any other kind i stopped buying them 2yrs ago because my wd drivers were lasting 4 times longer!

 

[freaksavior]

You actually dare to rely on being "pretty sure"? Verify.

Lols i will when I get home.

I have never had luck with seagate myself. i have always gone through more seagate drives then any other kind i stopped buying them 2yrs ago because my wd drivers were lasting 4 times longer!

I have a 7200.3 in my mac book and never had an issue with it, my mom has a 7200.2 and my brother has a 320 7200 also no issues.

I still think it's the 1.5's but i'll check firmware on the drivers.

 

[Super Sarge]

I have 4 internal Seagate drives , two are 750 gig, 2 are 1.5 TB, I have a 160 gig external and 500 gig external all are Seagate they are all over 3 years old. I have never had a problem my computer shop undated the firm ware on one of the 750's. I also have 1TB external that is about 2 years old a Seagate no problems.

 

[freaksavior]

I have 4 internal Seagate drives , two are 750 gig, 2 are 1.5 TB, I have a 160 gig external and 500 gig external all are Seagate they are all over 3 years old. I have never had a problem my computer shop undated the firm ware on one of the 750's. I also have 1TB external that is about 2 years old a Seagate no problems.

It's just my 1.5's i've had issues out of and a few 500's. My 750 is like 18 months old with 0 issues. My 2's are kicking along great but as I said the 1.5/500s have given me issues.