Newest Bios for sapphire x800xl

[Firestorm]

hi
i have a sapphire x800xl.i play counterstrike source and i want to have highest frame rates .But always when there is a lot of explosives and people in the area I sometimes get 10 fps or lower .this sucks in important situations .... i have an p4 540 not oced ms 7058 mainboard and gpu from above .i have the newest ati catalyst 6.12 no spyware or something else. i think with the right driver and a better bios i can fix that problem. What do you suggest and where can i get this?? Firestorm
ps:THANKS FOR EVERY REPLY!!!

 

[mmx]

hi
i have a sapphire x800xl.i play counterstrike source and i want to have highest frame rates .But always when there is a lot of explosives and people in the area I sometimes get 10 fps or lower .this sucks in important situations .... i have an p4 540 not oced ms 7058 mainboard and gpu from above .i have the newest ati catalyst 6.12 no spyware or something else. i think with the right driver and a better bios i can fix that problem. What do you suggest and where can i get this?? Firestorm
ps:THANKS FOR EVERY REPLY!!!

I dont think this problem is from your GPU, most likely is from CPU/MOBO or a software running in background.

 

[Firestorm]

my cpu is working great and my motherboard runs perfect and stabil .there are no programs in backround i checked with hijack this and spybot ! its the gpu.kann somebody give me a newer bios for my card or thebest driver for it?
Fire

 

[Jimmy 2004]

A bios update isn't a magic fix, it probably won't offer any benefits and could be risky if you got a bios designed for a slightly faster XL model. The best driver is ATI's driver (plenty will argue, but it is always out first and the other drivers manage almost no improvement). The only things you can do to help is ensure you are free of viruses and spyware (sounds like you've already done this), run something like CCleaner to get rid of files cluttering up your drive and defragment it.

Other than that, all you can do is overclock or upgrade, an updated BIOS won't do anything I'm afraid.

 

[stevorob]

Jimmy is right on this one. BIOS updates on GPUs do absolutely nothing for performance. Drivers are your best bet. The catalyst 6.9 drivers are said to be the best for the x800 series cards.

If you're getting lag in high density areas, the only thing you can do is turn down the graphics.

Some more info on your system specs can tell us a little more, and perhaps we could help you more.

 

[Firestorm]

yes i have an intel pentium 4 540 ht 3200mhz msi 7058 combo fr 250gb hdd western digital 1bg hynix ram and newest bios .... already no spyware or virus . i defrag my hardrive with o&o defrag professional v8.5 every day ... when i sett my graphic quality to low (i always play with high ) i have lower fps than with high!!! i dont know why

 

[Jimmy 2004]

yes i have an intel pentium 4 540 ht 3200mhz msi 7058 combo fr 250gb hdd western digital 1bg hynix ram and newest bios .... already no spyware or virus . i defrag my hardrive with o&o defrag professional v8.5 every day ... when i sett my graphic quality to low (i always play with high ) i have lower fps than with high!!! i dont know why

Only other thing I could recommend would be a fresh install of XP, other than that your hardware is the problem and you'd need to upgrade. Not sure why your FPS would be lower on low settings. You could try using DriverCleanerPro (you'll have to download it from a mirror, the newer versions aren't free) and removing your ATI Drivers and doing a clean reinstall.

 

[Firestorm]

i already have done this and nothing changed. is there a bios for a sapphire radeon x800xl?perhaps it will change after flash a new bios.i've done everythin .. is there a site where i can download the bios? thanks for replys Fire
the problem must be the gpu all other things work perfectly!!!
or can somebody give me a modded bios which runs this card faster?

 

[zekrahminator]

Flashing your card to the latest BIOS will leave you bitterly dissapointed. On the off-chance that it actually works, you'll boot with no change in pipelines (you already have them all enabled), and a very small change in clocks. You'll get about one or two FPS more than you would without flashing. You'd get a much better framerate jump by either getting more memory, overclocking the memory/cpu you have, or just buying more memory (or maybe even buying a graphics card with more memory).

 

[stevorob]

I don't even think there are "bios updates" for gpus. I think they just come with the factory bios on them. People just mod them to get higher clocks and/or more pixel pipelines. You have to be stable at higher clocks anyways for the mod to be effective.

I would look into what Jimmy said about a fresh install of XP, format the HDD and all that good stuff.

 

[Jimmy 2004]

Yeah, there are now BIOS updates as such, but some cards may have a slightly different BIOS from others. However, like zek says, this will give you almost no change in performance or it will not be compatible with your card so it isn't really worth it. BIOSs tend to come with the fasted settings that manufcaturers can apply without damaging the card, and overclocking through ATITool is the best way to improve performance.

What score do you get in 3Dmark05? This isn't a concrete test but it will give us some idea as to whether you card performs as you'd expect in that.

 

[Firestorm]

i download 3dmark05 at the moment on which settins i should run this bench?


I HAVE 4300 points!!!!

 

[Jimmy 2004]

That's a bit too low for an X800 XL, you should be getting a similar score to me. How much RAM do you have?

 

[Firestorm]

i have 1 gb in dualchannel mode -.- but its a cheap one

 

[mmx]

i download 3dmark05 at the moment on which settins i should run this bench?


I HAVE 4300 points!!!!

4300 at default settings??
Thats a little to low, try to reset drivers quality settings to default.

 

[Jimmy 2004]

Something is up I think - you're card is more or less the same speed as mine, you have the same amount of RAM but yours is dual channel, your CPU shouldn't be much slower than mine if any... All I can recommend is cleaning drivers then a format.

 

[Firestorm]

ok i think i cant tweak my card no more to become it faster i run drivercleaner and have format..thanks for your help ! i have one question is there a difference between the firm sapphire asus etc ?.i think from the performance and quality or the durability?
Fire

 

[Jimmy 2004]

ok i think i cant tweak my card no more to become it faster i run drivercleaner and have format..thanks for your help ! i have one question is there a difference between the firm sapphire asus etc ?.i think from the performance and quality or the durability?
Fire

Well some companies will offer slightly overclocked versions of cards, but if they have the same name they are based on the same core. Sapphire tend to offer pretty standard, some manufacturers will actually sell the cards with slower memory so that they aren't as quick (I think that happens more with Nvidia cards) but you can normally check the speeds before you buy and compare them to the GPU database on this site.

 

[mortal]

Maybe you turn on antialising and AF. It is recomended that it's aplication controlled.

And tell us how many MB are windows taking.

 

[Firestorm]

thanks for all replys ! now somebody can close this thread..
thanks guys for giving me some tips !
cya
Firestorm

 

[Jimmy 2004]

thanks for all replys ! now somebody can close this thread..
thanks guys for giving me some tips !
cya
Firestorm

Threads don't get closed for a long time here, unless there are arguements. It's a good idea, in case someone has a problem which they can help someone else with if they visit the forums a few months later with a similar problem.

 

[ghost101]

i download 3dmark05 at the moment on which settins i should run this bench?


I HAVE 4300 points!!!!

Should be getting closer to 5k. I used to get 4900 with a stock x800xl and p4 530 with a gig of valueram.

When I ran CSS, i couldnt have AA/AF maxed put. Thats most likely your problem. Maps with HDR also give a huge hit. Turn that off.

 

[mmx]

Should be getting closer to 5k. I used to get 4900 with a stock x800xl and p4 530 with a gig of valueram.

When I ran CSS, i couldnt have AA/AF maxed put. Thats most likely your problem. Maps with HDR also give a huge hit. Turn that off.

X800XL does not suport HDR

 

[Firestorm]

I have done a new benchmark! result: 5032 3d marks (3dmark05)
is this score a good one=?

 

[stevorob]

That's not terrible for your system.