AMD Unveils Radeon HD 6450 Entry-Level Graphics Card

[DigitalUK]

looks a worthy replacement for my htpc HD5450

 

[Over_Lord]

160 ALUs?!

This should have been called the HD 6150.

It's about as powerful as an HD 2600 Pro, from 4 years ago.. and costs about half as much.

Yuck.

^^ it's almost as powerful as HD5570 DDR3, and costs 15$ less. Let me remind you HD 5570 has 320 ALUs, so the performance for a 64-bit 160 ALU card is more than IMPRESSIVE

 

[Jonap_1st]

I can play Starcraft 2 with my Mobility HD4570, so you can definitely game a bit on these.

i didn't say it couldn't, probably someone with 17" monitor with everything set to the left..

^^ it's almost as powerful as HD5570 DDR3, and costs 15$ less. Let me remind you HD 5570 has 320 ALUs, so the performance for a 64-bit 160 ALU card is more than IMPRESSIVE

you mean 5570 is equal to 6450?

 

[Fourstaff]

i didn't say it couldn't, probably someone with 17" monitor with everything set to the left..

That is true, but most people do not give these super low end cards enough credit

 

[Mussels]

my 40" runs at 1360x768, cards like this would game on that fine at low/med

 

[Jonap_1st]

That is true, but most people do not give these super low end cards enough credit

so lets say your credit now is enough to justified it..

 

[ToTTenTranz]

^^ it's almost as powerful as HD5570 DDR3, and costs 15$ less. Let me remind you HD 5570 has 320 ALUs, so the performance for a 64-bit 160 ALU card is more than IMPRESSIVE

It's not almost as powerfull as a HD5570. It's not even close.
The GDDR5 version may get close to a HD5550 with DDR3 (which is lower clocked and has less activated shaders and ROPs than HD5570), mostly in bandwidth-limited situations like high resolutions and extreme presets (where both cards will lay flat at ~10fps).

BTW, the HD5570 has 400 VLIW5 ALUs, the HD5550 is the one that's cut to 320.

 

[Frick]

^^ it's almost as powerful as HD5570 DDR3, and costs 15$ less. Let me remind you HD 5570 has 320 ALUs, so the performance for a 64-bit 160 ALU card is more than IMPRESSIVE

See the post above mine. 5570 is loads faster.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

See the post above mine. 5570 is loads faster.

Plus, I doubt we'll ever see many implementations of the HD6450 with GDDR5 (the AMD units sent to reviewers where probably trying to create a halo effect).
The memory alone would probably cost more than the GPU, and it would be on par with a DDR3 HD5550.

 

[RadeonProVega]

64-bit wide memory interface, that supports GDDR5

LOL

 

[ToTTenTranz]

64-bit wide memory interface, that supports GDDR5

LOL

There'll probably be a time when GDDR5 is the cheapest and lowest-power solution available.

But that time isn't right now, that's for sure.

 

[overclocker]

wouldnt it be half the speed of my 4650 1GB ddr3 with 8 rops 320 unified shaders and 128 bit bus?

 

[RadeonProVega]

Maybe they will make a 256Bit 6450 Super OC Black Edition with 2GB Of GDDR5 Memory.
Than i will buy it

 

[Disparia]

Maybe... I'd be more inclined if it unlocked into 6970 or a pastrami sandwich.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Maybe... I'd be more inclined if it unlocked into 6970 or a pastrami sandwich.

I vote for a classic bacon sandvich

.:edit:.

Coincidently -- Guru3d already has a review of this card

 

[Jiraiya]

55$ thx amd

SAPPHIRE 100293DP Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 ...

SPARKLE SXT430512S3LNM GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 512M...

 

[Taskforce]

Is that all people think about these days gaming? no wonder everything is being slapped with gaming title, if someone was piss poor they wouldn't be looking to buy this they'd be looking at fleebay for used card with better price/performance.

 

[Mussels]

64-bit wide memory interface, that supports GDDR5

LOL

Maybe they will make a 256Bit 6450 Super OC Black Edition with 2GB Of GDDR5 Memory.
Than i will buy it

you know that GDDR5 has double the bandwidth of GDDR3? so its the same as a 128 bit GDDR3?


if you want a 256 bit GDDR5 bus on a low end budget card... you're dreaming. thats what my 5870 has.

 

[bear jesus]

you know that GDDR5 has double the bandwidth of GDDR3? so its the same as a 128 bit GDDR3?


if you want a 256 bit GDDR5 bus on a low end budget card... you're dreaming. thats what my 5870 has.

Not only dreaming but silly i don't think 128, 256 or even 512bit bus on a card like this would have a noticeable effect on it's performance as with GDDR5 these days the bandwidth on most cards is more than high enough thus why GPU core overclocking normally gives the highest boost.

I think GDDR5 is the perfect solution to low end chips as a small bus can give a useful amount of bandwidth meaning it is easier to keep these chips as small as possible yet have a bit of kick to them.

I have a 64bit bus with GDDR2 on my 40 stream processor 3450... useless, a 64bit bus with GDDR5 and 160 stream processors on the 6450? now that's starting to become a more useful amount of power for min settings gaming.
On paper it happily beats out some of the mid rage cards i have used from only a few generations back.

Think about it, a generation or two from now the low end cards could easily carry a 64 bit bus still but it could be paired with GDDR5 running anywhere up to say 6ghz, I'm pretty sure that would pump out a fair bit of bandwidth even on a 64bit bus (i would do the math but it's 7am so no ).

 

[HalfAHertz]

Not only dreaming but silly i don't think 128, 256 or even 512bit bus on a card like this would have a noticeable effect on it's performance as with GDDR5 these days the bandwidth on most cards is more than high enough thus why GPU core overclocking normally gives the highest boost.

I think GDDR5 is the perfect solution to low end chips as a small bus can give a useful amount of bandwidth meaning it is easier to keep these chips as small as possible yet have a bit of kick to them.

I have a 64bit bus with GDDR2 on my 40 stream processor 3450... useless, a 64bit bus with GDDR5 and 160 stream processors on the 6450? now that's starting to become a more useful amount of power for min settings gaming.
On paper it happily beats out some of the mid rage cards i have used from only a few generations back.

Think about it, a generation or two from now the low end cards could easily carry a 64 bit bus still but it could be paired with GDDR5 running anywhere up to say 6ghz, I'm pretty sure that would pump out a fair bit of bandwidth even on a 64bit bus (i would do the math but it's 7am so no ).

Exactly. Anything over 64-bit on such a low end product would just be wasted power consumption.

 

[Trackr]

my 40" runs at 1360x768, cards like this would game on that fine at low/med

Dude, no it wouldn't!

I remember my old 2600 Pro. It couldn't run any game I was interested in, and this was back when I had a 17" monitor and games at 1024x768.

 

[Mussels]

Dude, no it wouldn't!

I remember my old 2600 Pro. It couldn't run any game I was interested in, and this was back when I had a 17" monitor and games at 1024x768.

it all depends on the games.

 

[Jonap_1st]

Dude, no it wouldn't!

I remember my old 2600 Pro. It couldn't run any game I was interested in, and this was back when I had a 17" monitor and games at 1024x768.

i remember when i got 2600XT back in 2007, it still can run modern warfare at 1024 x 768 on med settings. so basically you can still play it with everything set to low..

 

[swaaye]

I would just stick with an IGP for HTPC personally. They've been accelerating HD 1080p for years now and use less power than any card. This card has no gaming value when you consider the other cheap cards. You can probably triple your speed and still be under $100. I think these kinds of cards are maybe desirable for people looking to add another output.

 

[Mussels]

I would just stick with an IGP for HTPC personally. They've been accelerating HD 1080p for years now and use less power than any card. This card has no gaming value when you consider the other cheap cards. You can probably triple your speed and still be under $100. I think these kinds of cards are maybe desirable for people looking to add another output.

yeah but lets say you want the PC to handle say... Sims 2 and CSS as well. or your IGP is intel, or something equally crap.