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this question is asked totally in ignorance, so forgive me if i sound a bit stupid

when are we going to see ddr4 dram for computers?
 
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can you link the wikipedia article? i must be searching for the wrong terms

EDIT: n/m. i found the article you are referencing.

if we have ddr5 in gpu's how come we dont have ddr4 or ddr5 in dram? what am i missing in my understnaidng of this?
 
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if we have ddr5 in gpu's how come we dont have ddr4 or ddr5 in dram? what am i missing in my understnaidng of this?

its Gddr 5, its completely different from DDR3/4 etc and is actually a heavily modified type of DDR2

Edit: boss is right but the point remains that the number just means there has been more versions, and nothing else, the reason we don't have DDR4 is because its not ready yet and also because we don't need it
 
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gddr5 is similar to ddr3 and gddr4 is like ddr2
 
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From my limited understanding gddr can work at higher frequencies and tighter timings but using more energy and being more prone to errors compared to ddr memory.
 
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sorry to deviate off topic here... but i HIGHLY doubt that the mayans could've predicted the end of the world..
I mean I know they were good at astronomy... but there's no way you could predict the end of the world without a sign... IE a huge asteroid heading for earth.
 
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but there's no way you could predict the end of the world without a sign... IE

i see your point, IF IE is causing the end of the world, then the asteroid will look like this!



that image is the best picture of the end of the world as we know it:eek:

Everyone use chrome or firefox...NOW!!!
 
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Are you guys that ignorant? did you not hear that the mayan prediction had a miscalculation?

Whether this is good or bad news is still open fro interpretation, but one thing is for sure – according to the research, the end of the Long Count may come in a decade or a century, or may have already happened.

this means the DDR4 calculation could be wrong too, it will either be here in 2021 or 2111 or if it has already happened the it could of been here back in 1987 but no one had a mobo that would support it and so it died out:(
 
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this means the DDR4 calculation could be wrong too, it will either be here in 2021 or 2111 or if it has already happened the it could of been here back in 1987 but no one had a mobo that would support it and so it died out:(

sounds like an alternative back to the future...marty mcfly takes a mobo back in time to kick off the dram industry? :confused:
 
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sounds like an alternative back to the future...marty mcfly takes a mobo back in time to kick off the dram industry?

thats what i was thinking off but i couldn't think of quote that would work besides 'according to my calculations DDR4 will arrive precisely 1 minute from now'
 

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DDR2 was not around for long was it? If we have to wait 5 more years for DDR4 to come along I mean.
 
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DDR2 was not around for long was it? If we have to wait 5 more years for DDR4 to come along I mean.

you've not been following the conversation 1987!!!
 
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we need a low latency standard, not higher clocks for the next ram generation.

i FU***** HATE ddr3's latencies.
 

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I'm trying my best to bring this back on topic. :roll:
 
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we need a low latency standard, not higher clocks for the next ram generation.

i FU***** HATE ddr3's latencies.
Huh?
DDR3 has latencies that easily equal those the best low-latency chips of DDR1, like Winbond BH-5 could do at best. And DDR3 does that at nearly half the voltage while producing multiple times the bandwidth.

Example:
tCAS7 @ 1000MHz (DDR3-2000) = 7ns = tCAS2 @ 285MHz (DDR1-571)
 
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Huh?
DDR3 has latencies that easily equal those the best low-latency chips of DDR1, like Winbond BH-5 could do at best. And DDR3 does that at nearly half the voltage while producing multiple times the bandwidth.

Example:
tCAS7 @ 1000MHz (DDR3-2000) = 7ns = tCAS2 @ 285MHz (DDR1-571)

what about when you break into the best of DDR3 which can do Cas 6 2000-2200mhz
 
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That would be something DDR1 had no chance at all to achieve:
tCAS6 @ 1000MHz (DDR3-2000) = 6ns = tCAS2 @ 333MHz (DDR1-667)
tCAS6 @ 1100MHz (DDR3-2200) = 5.45ns = tCAS2 @ 367MHz (DDR1-734)
 

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we need a low latency standard, not higher clocks for the next ram generation.

i FU***** HATE ddr3's latencies.


Huh?
DDR3 has latencies that easily equal those the best low-latency chips of DDR1, like Winbond BH-5 could do at best. And DDR3 does that at nearly half the voltage while producing multiple times the bandwidth.

Example:
tCAS7 @ 1000MHz (DDR3-2000) = 7ns = tCAS2 @ 285MHz (DDR1-571)



^ what they said. what matters is the latency it operates at, not the latency of the timings.
 

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roflmao. I had 2 gigs of ddr2 1200 running @ 1200 cas 4 and i get better bandwith with my 4 gigs @ 1800 cas 7. GG breh
 
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