trade a 1055t for a i7 860?

[erocker]

Keep what you got then, or it just comes down to weather you can trust this guy's hardware or not. Up to you.

 

[xenocide]

again everyone already knows Phenom II is clock for clock on par with socket 775 45nm quads namely Q9000 series, and again if an overclocked Q9000 is 30fps slower then a stock i5 2500k how much more of a difference with BF3 make when an entire skyscraper falls to the city streets.

I think even 30 might be a bit low for some games. I know the difference between my Q6600 and the i5-2500k I have now was a lot more in most games. I went from Rift on Medium getting 30fps, to Rift on High getting 60-70 fps. I also was able to switch from BC2 being on high with no AA getting 40-50 fps, to high with max AA getting 70-80. Granted the Q9xxx series and Q6xxx series alone are a generation apart, so maybe 30 is about accurate.

 

[yogurt_21]

when he was stating just the amd vs intel it seemed like a good deal. However when you factor in 60 euro's extra towards a gpu budget? that's the difference between a 6850 and a 6950.

taking a look at w1z's lated benches there's overall a 25-30% performance difference between the two cards.

I don't care how slow you all feel phenom 2 is compared to 1156. There is no way in hell an i7 860 is going to make up that amount of difference. Period!


so all in all I'm with The mail man on this. Gaming wise putting 60 euros towards the gpu budget makes more sense.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

and again this build was for games like Battlefield 3 how far off is BF3 oh thats right its still 5 months away hmm if someone cant save money for a GPU in 5 months maybe they shouldnt be buying new hardware lolz

 

[yogurt_21]

and again this build was for games like Battlefield 3 how far off is BF3 oh thats right its still 5 months away hmm if someone cant save money for a GPU in 5 months maybe they shouldnt be buying new hardware lolz

cmon you know hardware budgets come and go. If he's anythgin like me in 5 months he'll be broke and barely able to afford the game. That's whether or not new hardware is purchased now.

 

[gifted1]

cmon you know hardware budgets come and go. If he's anythgin like me in 5 months he'll be broke and barely able to afford the game. That's whether or not new hardware is purchased now.

well i`m not broke in 5 months thats for sure, social security is better aranged here then in the US thank god!!

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

lol That is all !

 

[gifted1]

LOLz cheers buddy!!

 

[Wile E]

actually im sorry to say i would notice,

as im pretty sure id notice the difference between 65% gpu usage vs 100% gpu usage on both cards due to a cpu bottleneck,

and since Shogun II is cpu intensive and melee battles will drop to under 15fps on any Core 2 Quad or Phenom II system but are fully playable on any i5 or i7 id notice in that game as well.

in SHogun II the difference in game is nearly a 100% performance increase from a core 2 quad / Phenom II to an i5 i7,

so while some games you wouldnt notice there are alot i would notice a difference in,

With an LCD, you absolutely would not notice a single frame above 60fps. That's all your LCD can display.

 

[xenocide]

With an LCD, you absolutely would not notice a single frame above 60fps. That's all your LCD can display.

That's not necessarily true for a number of reasons, the most obvious being a lot of LCD Monitor's are 75hz meaning given the logic you are applying you wouldn't see a noticable difference over 75fps.

 

[gifted1]

That's not necessarily true for a number of reasons, the most obvious being a lot of LCD Monitor's are 75hz meaning given the logic you are applying you wouldn't see a noticable difference over 75fps.

Some lcd`s do even 85 hz correct me if i`m wrong here

 

[Wile E]

That's not necessarily true for a number of reasons, the most obvious being a lot of LCD Monitor's are 75hz meaning given the logic you are applying you wouldn't see a noticable difference over 75fps.

Some lcd`s do even 85 hz correct me if i`m wrong here

Nope. Some do 120, but not his. All those other LCDs that accept 75hz or higher still only put out at 60hz.

 

[gifted1]

Nope. Some do 120, but not his. All those other LCDs that accept 75hz or higher still only put out at 60hz.

you sure all those other lcd`s put out 60 hz? source?

 

[xenocide]

Some list 85hz at lower resolutions I believe, but 60/75/120 are the norm for LCD's. I am interested to see some conclusive evidence to back that up Wile E, I have never heard such.

 

[erocker]

Some list 85hz at lower resolutions I believe, but 60/75/120 are the norm for LCD's. I am interested to see some conclusive evidence to back that up Wile E, I have never heard such.

Check the specifications of monitors, all of the info is there.

 

[xenocide]

Check the specifications of monitors, all of the info is there.

Let's take this one for example;

Acer G235HAbd 23'' 5ms 1920x1080 WideScre...

It claims it operates up to 75hz as I said, but what Wile E is saying is that it still only runs at 60hz, despite everything saying it's operating at 75hz. I have not seen or heard anything to back up such a claim. I know some games will force monitors into funky refresh rates, but between drivers and various settings you can easily override this.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

i dont care what the max fucking frame rate is on the god damn monitor it dosent change the fact that the higher the frame rate the better i do in FPS games, you can say i cant see it i cant see it i cant see it all you fucking want fact is dosent change the fact that the game plays and feels better at higher frame rates.

 

[gifted1]

i dont care what the max fucking frame rate is on the god damn monitor it dosent change the fact that the higher the frame rate the better i do in FPS games, you can say i cant see it i cant see it i cant see it all you fucking want fact is dosent change the fact that the game plays and feels better at higher frame rates.

wow dude chill hehehe

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

i am chill i just get tired of bs statements of you can see it... of course i cant see the difference i didnt say i could what i said was i could feel the difference and my overall performance aka kill/death score per minute, and in general is higher the higher my frame rate is.

 

[TheMailMan78]

i dont care what the max fucking frame rate is on the god damn monitor it dosent change the fact that the higher the frame rate the better i do in FPS games, you can say i cant see it i cant see it i cant see it all you fucking want fact is dosent change the fact that the game plays and feels better at higher frame rates.

And if you go higher the the maximum frame rate of your monitor you tend to get tearing. Then you put on vertical sync and guess what frame rate you are with this on? The maximum frame rate of your monitor. Ideal gameplay is keeping a constant maximum frame rate of the monitor you are using. Anything less or more can hamper your gameplay experience.

 

[gifted1]

And if you go higher the the maximum frame rate of your monitor you tend to get tearing. Then you put on vertical sync and guess what frame rate you are with this on? The maximum frame rate of your monitor. Ideal gameplay is keeping a constant maximum frame rate of the monitor you are using. Anything less or more can hamper your gameplay experience.

Well the refreshrate for my monitor is 66.? hz at 1920x1080 so lets say 60 hz, With v-sync on my framerate will be 60 fps then, thats fine by me!! and with v-sync on youve got less tearing..so i seems that gaming with v-sync on is better then v-sync off...again correct me if i`m wrong... crazyeyesreaper, is your k/d ratio optimal at 60 fps?

 

[TheMailMan78]

No crazyeyesreaper k/d ratio is optimal when his trailer has heat.

 

[gifted1]

No crazyeyesreaper k/d ratio is optimal when his trailer has heat.

dude whats wrong with a trailer? lolz

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

uh for one i dont use vsync so herp derp durrr also Bad Company 2 dosent tear that badly at all the texture flicker from having AA on is much more distracting. so you can shit can vsync limiting my frame rate genius.

and i dont live in a trailer I live in a 3 bedroom 1 bath home on US Route 1. with a Gambrel Garage and a secondary 600 square foot workshop. Although it would be nice to take down
the old workshop put a trailer there for my white trailer trash buddies to live in. then i could collect rent and make some extra cash....

my K/D and score per round tends to be Optimal around 90fps or better at anything below 60 i do terrible, but at 60 im still not playing my best. 90-100fps is my sweet spot. and tearing only really bothers me in RPGs. namely Oblivion Fallout 3 and New Vegas the gamebryo engine suffers from tearing to an extreme, where as Frostbite engine it dosent phase me at all.

but Vsync does remove tearing it can cause input lag in some titles, Dead Space in one where its extremely noticeable in the menus etc. at least when it was first released no idea if they fix that or not. for some people 30fps is enough others its 60fps for me it depends on the game title

in RTS games 30fps is fine in RPGs i like a solid 60fps but for First Person shooters i want the highest possible frame rate i can get.

 

[gifted1]

Although it would be nice to take down
the old workshop put a trailer there for my white trailer trash buddies to live in. then i could collect rent and make some extra cash....

LMFAO