Bulldozer Information Thread.

Damn_Smooth · Sep 2, 2011

repman244 said:
Yes.
The same way the desktop team has no idea what's going on with the server department.

His desk is right next to the desktop guy. I'm sure he has a much better idea of what's going on than we do.

Plus, with all of the trolling he has to deal with, I am sure he has made it a point to find out. I would just for the lulz.

JF-AMD · Sep 2, 2011

If I lean over and look out the door of my cube, I can see the FX guy.

But I don't comment on client and I don't comment on launch dates.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
If I lean over and look out the door of my cube, I can see the FX guy.

But I don't comment on client and I don't comment on launch dates.

Welcome back man. Nice to see you around again!

Question if you can answer it.

I understand the bandwidth for the memory has increased for the new architecture but what about the IMC. Is it more robust to support the increase or are we looking at something like the Phenom 2 IMC?

Please forgive me if you have already covered this elsewhere.

JF-AMD · Sep 2, 2011

memory controller is completely redesigned for more throughput and aggressive power down so you get better power efficiency as well.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
memory controller is completely redesigned for more throughput and aggressive power down so you get better power efficiency as well.

On the Phenom 2 tight timings are very important. Will it be the same thing with Bulldozer? I ask because tight timings are always important but on your competition not as much. Can the same be said with Bulldozer?

If you cant say I fully understand. Gotta ask!

TheLaughingMan · Sep 2, 2011

If it is anything like the APUs then no tight timing will not be nearly as important. The IMC on the APU lives and breaths on higher clock speed for the RAM. At 1866 Mhz 9-9-9-24 the APUs gets 1.65 times the memory bandwidth of a Phenom II. I am hoping Bulldozer will get 2 to 2.5 times more bandwidth than Phenom II at its best which I don't think is unrealistic any more.

btarunr · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
memory controller is completely redesigned for more throughput and aggressive power down so you get better power efficiency as well.

Is it dual single-channel like on Barcelona or single dual-channel?

TheMailMan78 · Sep 2, 2011

lol at the flood of questions.

JF-AMD · Sep 2, 2011

not sure of the answer on that

cadaveca · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
not sure of the answer on that

I think the question is:

a)will the memory controller be a single unit, 144-bit, with dual 72-bit channels,

b)or is it multiple 72-bit controllers, each with thier own channel?

I'm pretty sure this info is in the public domain via HotChips?

JF-AMD · Sep 2, 2011

seronx · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
If I lean over and look out the door of my cube, I can see the FX guy.

But I don't comment on client and I don't comment on launch dates.

Why doesn't the FX guy talk?{I feel like I asked this before, strange}

Why do you talk when the FX guy can clear up a lot of conspiracy theory and rumors of demise?

LordJummy · Sep 2, 2011

seronx said:
Why doesn't the FX guy talk?{I feel like I asked this before, strange}

Why do you talk when the FX guy can clear up a lot of conspiracy theory and rumors of demise?

He's probably not allowed to talk about it yet man. Think about it. There's not much he could say, as this is very serious business.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 2, 2011

seronx said:
Why doesn't the FX guy talk?{I feel like I asked this before, strange}

Why do you talk when the FX guy can clear up a lot of conspiracy theory and rumors of demise?

I'm thinking the man who handles the FX end of things would rather not deal with a bunch of fanatical fan boys on a tech site. JD on the other hand might have more patience to do so. I'm just grateful to get ANY info. :laugh:

seronx · Sep 2, 2011

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...4297943087.166422.312410103087&type=1&theater

: o o o o ,,,,,,

THAT BOX! or belt buckle! /want/

JF-AMD · Sep 2, 2011

seronx said:
Why doesn't the FX guy talk?{I feel like I asked this before, strange}

Why do you talk when the FX guy can clear up a lot of conspiracy theory and rumors of demise?

If you saw how much crap I get from the enthusiast market, I can understand why they don't. This is not my job, I do this for fun.

Damn_Smooth · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
If you saw how much crap I get from the enthusiast market, I can understand why they don't. This is not my job, I do this for fun.

Glutton for punishment? :laugh:

seronx · Sep 2, 2011

JF-AMD said:
If you saw how much crap I get from the enthusiast market, I can understand why they don't. This is not my job, I do this for fun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Stick_ideology

maybe you need to adopt some of this :toast:

But thanks for everything JF-AMD

qubit · Sep 3, 2011

JF-AMD said:
If I lean over and look out the door of my cube, I can see the FX guy.

But I don't comment on client and I don't comment on launch dates.

When the lid on leaks is kept so tightly shut, it's normally because the new product isn't as good as the competitor's existing products (Intel here).

Well, we know next to nothing about Bulldozer and it's getting real close to launch time, so isn't it likely to be another disappointing performer from AMD, like the original Phenom?

heky · Sep 3, 2011

Probably, but we will just have to wait and see. i would really like to be prooven wrong.

JF-AMD · Sep 3, 2011

qubit said:
When the lid on leaks is kept so tightly shut, it's normally because the new product isn't as good as the competitor's existing products (Intel here).

Well, we know next to nothing about Bulldozer and it's getting real close to launch time, so isn't it likely to be another disappointing performer from AMD, like the original Phenom?

Or, it's corporate policy. Letting info out before launch only stalls sales. And OEMs don't like that because their supply chains are long. They placed PO's last month for the processors that they are buying today for desktops that they will build next month that will be sold to the channel in november for the christmas season. When you have that long of a lead you don't want anything disrupting the process.

ensabrenoir · Sep 3, 2011

So a leak about incredible performance would disrupt the process?

repman244 · Sep 3, 2011

ensabrenoir said:
So a leak about incredible performance would disrupt the process?

JF-AMD said:
Letting info out before launch only stalls sales.

I think JF was clear enough.

Lionheart · Sep 3, 2011

I can't fucken take it anymore :mad:

I want AMD BULLDOZER NOW!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

heky · Sep 3, 2011

JF-AMD said:
Letting info out before launch only stalls sales.

Yeah if the performance is mediocre, than sure. But if the prformance was awesome even i would click a pre-order button. But that is just not case i reckon.

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