The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

LifeOnMars · Nov 26, 2011

Seriously de das, It's widely known about the Phenom's limited bandwidth...that coupled with poor IPC is what cripples a phenom based crossfire/sli rig. Now on my old Sandybridge setup I could have everything in the twenties even with low clocks and crap timings.

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 26, 2011

Chicken Patty said:
Keep us posted. But yes, try manual better.

JrRacinFan said:
Try 1.27v and no higher than 1.33v

Okay so I dropped the HT link speed a notch to 2500 and manually adjusted the CPU/NB voltage to 1.12v...so far so good. I will try going back up to 2755 soon with that voltage. Temps are much better too now...40-41c core and 49c CPU.

JrRacinFan · Nov 27, 2011

ChaoticAtmosphere said:
HT link speed a notch to 2500 and manually adjusted the CPU/NB voltage to 1.12v

HT Link? You mean CPU-NB?

de.das.dude · Nov 27, 2011

LifeOnMars said:
Seriously de das, It's widely known about the Phenom's limited bandwidth...that coupled with poor IPC is what cripples a phenom based crossfire/sli rig. Now on my old Sandybridge setup I could have everything in the twenties even with low clocks and crap timings.

im a noob. so i just learnt that. :O

sirbaili · Nov 27, 2011

DDR3 1950Mhz Hiper PI Stable 8GB 4x2 on 890FXA-UD7

Hi Guys.
I recently purchased Gigabyte's 890FXa-UD7 mainboard rev. 2.0.
There is a newer edition 2.1 of the same board that supposedly Improves memory stability an OC on Blue memory slots also.

I thought what on the earth....

I put 2 pairs of G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB GBRL modules that are rated 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 1.5v.

Here are the resullts.

I achieved stable OC of 1950Hhz with 10-10-10-30 timings and Memory VCore of 1.67-8 Only.

Chicken Patty · Nov 27, 2011

That's a very good overclock on those sticks!

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 27, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
HT Link? You mean CPU-NB?

Well CPU-Z (Or Asus) calls it the "HT Link Speed" as you can see in the pic below. The voltage I adjusted manually is indeed the CPU/NB voltage.

Irony · Nov 28, 2011

ChaoticAtmosphere said:
Well CPU-Z (Or Asus) calls it the "HT Link Speed" as you can see in the pic below. The voltage I adjusted manually is indeed the CPU/NB voltage.

http://img.techpowerup.org/111127/Capture.jpg

Because that is indeed the HT link. The northbridge speed is shown under "Memory"

JrRacinFan · Nov 28, 2011

@Chaotic
Drop HT Link down one multiplier. There is no gain in performance to having it that high UNLESS you have one of those rare boards that are more stable with it 1:1 with your CPU-NB Frequency.

@sirbaili
Can you post a Maxxmem bench for me? I would care to see it, if you don't mind.

Chicken Patty · Nov 28, 2011

ChaoticAtmosphere said:
Well CPU-Z (Or Asus) calls it the "HT Link Speed" as you can see in the pic below. The voltage I adjusted manually is indeed the CPU/NB voltage.

http://img.techpowerup.org/111127/Capture.jpg

I never noticed much of a difference when running the HT Link higher. I rather leave it stock, helps a bit in getting a more higher stable clock. The NB speed on the other hand, night and day difference when you get that higher.

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 28, 2011

Thx Irony...forgot about that :laugh:

and they are set equally anyway.

So yes JrRacingFan...I did mean NB Freq. :laugh:

sirbaili · Nov 28, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
@sirbaili
Can you post a Maxxmem bench for me? I would care to see it, if you don't mind.

Hi.

No Problem.

This is my every day setup:

Irony · Nov 28, 2011

I ran maxxmem with my NB at 2600 and than raised it to 3000 and I get another 1gb/ps. (11660 Gb/ps)
Thats with $20 Gskill 1333!

sirbaili · Nov 28, 2011

Irony said:
I ran maxxmem with my NB at 2600 and than raised it to 3000 and I get another 1gb/ps. (11660 Gb/ps)
Thats with $20 Gskill 1333!

Hi.

After seeing "IRONY"'s post about the effect of NB OC to 3000Hz I verified it and here is the result - settings are identical to my previous post only the CPU_NB frequency was raised to 3000. I had to raise CPU_NB VCORE to 1.350.
In my case memory is very cheap: 46$ for twox4GB=8GB set.

Chicken Patty · Nov 28, 2011

Yep, NB is everything with these systems! :rockout:

Zubasa · Nov 28, 2011

Chicken Patty said:
Yep, NB is everything with these systems!

Yup AMD's IMC is becoming the bottleneck for a long time now, it haven't improved much since the Athlon 64 days, Bulldozer is the first major improvement in years.

Chicken Patty · Nov 28, 2011

...and people still say BD has weak IMC's. But I don't own one so I can't say. :confused:

eidairaman1 · Nov 28, 2011

its odd at newegg its still getting good ratings, tell you the truth i dont care what others say about it being horrible, its far from that, but its like this software yet again has to catch up. it was the same issue with P4 with HT on them, Windows 7 utilizes the P4 with HT efficiently than Windows XP ever did. Intel machines do run you more, AMDs not as much.

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 29, 2011

So this is the overclock I'm settling on for now.

JrRacinFan · Nov 29, 2011

Tried CL8 or CL7 on those sticks Chaotic? May end up performing better even at a low bandwidth.

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 29, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
Tried CL8 or CL7 on those sticks Chaotic? May end up performing better even at a low bandwidth.

Nope tried it. I tried 8-9-9-27-41....will not boot.

Chicken Patty · Nov 29, 2011

eidairaman1 said:
its odd at newegg its still getting good ratings, tell you the truth i dont care what others say about it being horrible, its far from that, but its like this software yet again has to catch up. it was the same issue with P4 with HT on them, Windows 7 utilizes the P4 with HT efficiently than Windows XP ever did. Intel machines do run you more, AMDs not as much.

That is very true, software is way behind and while these chips are new now, it might be a few years before software actually knows what to do with them... :shadedshu

@Chaotic, very nice man. Decent CPU speed, good NB speed, and good RAM speed. If you can get CL8 that would be sweet though man. :toast:

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 29, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
Tried CL8 or CL7 on those sticks Chaotic? May end up performing better even at a low bandwidth.

Chicken Patty said:
@Chaotic, very nice man. Decent CPU speed, good NB speed, and good RAM speed. If you can get CL8 that would be sweet though man.

Well how about that, my sticks had a change of heart!

ChaoticAtmosphere · Nov 29, 2011

JrRacinFan said:
Tried CL8 or CL7 on those sticks Chaotic? May end up performing better even at a low bandwidth.

Chicken Patty said:
@Chaotic, very nice man. Decent CPU speed, good NB speed, and good RAM speed. If you can get CL8 that would be sweet though man.

Well how about that, my sticks had a change of heart! :respect:

Chicken Patty · Nov 29, 2011

ChaoticAtmosphere said:
Well how about that, my sticks had a change of heart!

http://img.techpowerup.org/111129/Capture.jpg

Nice, any voltage changes to achieve it?

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