Who makes the best graphics drivers?

adulaamin · Aug 24, 2012

I've never had problems with either of the companies' drivers but I've never used high end nvidia cards in before only low end ones like their GTS250 & GT210. On the other hand, I've used an HD4870 and currently use an HD7970 so I voted for AMD. I'd love to try nvidia's cards but their just more expensive where I'm from. I got the 7970 coz it was offered at the same price as a 670.

Melvis · Aug 26, 2012

Even though i own AMD now, ive had Nvidia for alot longer and they both have there issues, but overall i think Nvidia are better, only thing is when the Nvidia drivers stuff up, they stuff up realy good (windows XP wont boot) So my vote goes to Nvidia

ZeppMan217 · Aug 26, 2012

Where's "None" option? I mean, it is the only right answer.

phanbuey · Aug 26, 2012

ZeppMan217 said:
Where's "None" option? I mean, it is the only right answer.

I voted NVidia because of the impressions that I get from reviews (multi GPU issues, and new games) make it seem like nVidia are a bit more on the ball with support.

My personal experience with the 2xx and the 4xxx series, I found the Nvidia drivers were much easier to deal with. I was trying both cards, and at first the 4870 ran great, once i installed the 260, and finished the testing, when I put the 4870 back in it immediately dropped in perf by 1,000 points in vantage (i was making a spreadsheet comparison so I knew right away something was up).

I had to wipe the system, take out the card, wipe it again, boot with a generic VGA in... etc. It was a whole mission to get these drivers to install cleanly again and to the initial performance.

chr0nos · Aug 26, 2012

I vote AMD.

currently i use Nvidia and I can say (regarding optimus technology) they really suck, constant battle to force apps to use the Nvidia card, forced to add the application manually on the CP even when using the "use nvidia (right click option)".

Also have yet to see AMD burn cards with a drivers release :laugh:

Solaris17 · Aug 26, 2012

nvidia the control panel is way better to navigate and everything I want is clear cut you dont have to dig for stuff.

I know nvidia reps prowl these forums so even if they end up "winning" dont let that shit go to your head! I dont want shitty driver releases in a month because your "ahead"

Aquinus · Aug 26, 2012

chr0nos said:
Also have yet to see AMD burn cards with a drivers release

This is a very good point. :cool:

My nVidia cards didn't need drivers to fry themselves. :wtf:

Morgoth · Aug 26, 2012

3dfx does!

m1dg3t · Aug 26, 2012

They all suck

Patriot · Aug 27, 2012

AMD... I switched at (ik) Vista.

As part of the ongoing Vista Capable class action lawsuit, Microsoft released data on exactly what drivers caused the bulk of logged Windows Vista crashes. The number one culprit of Vista crashes related to driver failure was NVIDIA at 28.8%. Microsoft only broke logged crashes out for a few companies including NVIDIA, Intel (8.8%) and ATI (9.3%). Microsoft’s data shows that it was responsible for 17.9% of logged crashes.

Bi-daily bsod's linked to my onboard Vista ready nvidia chipset caused me to buy a 2600xt.

Everytime I look at nvidia something has recently happened to keep me away.

Be it the driver that let cards overheat with starcraft 2 beta.

or the Fry your 590 card driver fun.

No...nothing AMD has done comes close to being as shitty as how nvidia has treated its faithful followers.

I did actually give them a second try for 2 weeks with a GTX275 ...and it has such poor image quality compared to my 4870 that I didn't care about the 15 extra fps I got. It looked like shit.

No AMD makes by far the most stable drivers. and in my book that is the best.
They don't sacrifice image quality for winning benchmarks.
(you can argue about 3dmark 11...but IQ is the same)
They don't not release an RTM driver for a vista ready product and let you enjoy bi-daily bsods...

They have not had a driver that fries their cards at a very very low oc level.
or turns the fan off and lets them die that way.

The 680 was very very tempting to me...but I don't have a short memory...and I like to gpgpu. Sorry nvidia...I don't buy castrated cards with shitty drivers.

THE_EGG · Aug 27, 2012

I chose nvidia maily because i prefer the layout of the control panel more then catalyst from AMD. Stability wise, I have friends that have had issus with amd cards (ie overheating ad poor performance on some drivers but run fine on others). I've only had issues with beta drivers from nvidia but their whql drivers have alwas worked for me. That being that, onte haven't caused me any dramas either however I still prefer nvidia's drivers over the others.

TheGuruStud · Aug 27, 2012

KainXS said:
I'ma have to say nvidia I have simply had too many problems back when I had a 4890, microstutter killed, no murdered its performance on pretty much everything in cf and for some reason the cp always killed my boot time, got tired of it and went back to nv

but intels cp is the worst by far

oops picked amd by mistake T.T

Get a MB that isn't crap? I had xfire 4890s for a long time. They blazed through games and never had any microstutter or xfire issues that weren't also present on sli (game fault, as usual). I only traded them out b/c they weren't powerful enough for maxing out new games. I gave them to a friend and he has/had no problems with them, either (he might still have them for all I know).

Both have certain drivers that don't work for who knows what reason...but you can always go back and wait for the next one lol. Stick with either long enough and you run into issues and some aren't even the fault of the drivers (but ppl blame them anyway).

phanbuey said:
I voted NVidia because of the impressions that I get from reviews (multi GPU issues, and new games) make it seem like nVidia are a bit more on the ball with support.

Guess who's paying big bucks to make sure they're in there to code the game for their cards and make them crap for AMD? Every game that has the nvidia logo... Do the math lol That's why nvidia will never get money from me, again. I quit buying after the 8800GT.

eidairaman1 · Aug 27, 2012

Last time I had any Issues with AMD drivers was before the Catalyst 4.3s after that things have been peachy.

Ive been installing on top of drivers since Cat 11.9s no issues and thats for my bros Machine with a 6770, he is running cat 12.8s now. No Lockups, CTDs, BSODs nothing. I navigated the Vision Engine Control Center (what was called CCC) and its not as hard to figure out as most here complain about it.

Ive had driver issues with a GF 4 MX series card even the last WHQL driver for me. I cant say anything about NV drivers after that since I don't own anything that is NV based for Graphics cards.

Favorite Cards Ive owned myself

Hercules GeForce 2 GTS Pro
ATI All In Wonder Radeon 9700 Pro (Replaced by 9800 Pro after accidental short out)
Mobility Radeon 9800 256
Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro

Jetster · Aug 27, 2012

Interesting poll

Shou Miko · Aug 27, 2012

Jetster said:
Interesting poll

yes interesting poll indeed, with so many software things in the driver now a days for not only the driver it self but u control SLi/X-Fire profiles, PhysX and so on.

but still there are problem with some drivers still.

Jetster · Aug 27, 2012

I think there always going to problems with graphic drivers given the complexity of the software. It amazing there is not more problems then there is.

librin.so.1 · Aug 27, 2012

I Only ever used Nvidia cards (not counting my old 3dfx Voodoo, testing AMD/ATI equipped rigs I sometimes fix, or my pop's intel equipped lappy) and I did/do have problems with their drivers. For example a driver bug that made many games render everything 'cept the UI much darker than it should (already fixed) or the fact that they still don't support overclocking of Fermi & Kepler GPUs. (I'm running Linux, mind You. Their Linux driver differs from their Windoze driver only slightly, though.)

Due to my lack of AMD/ATI & Intel experience, to keep it fair, I did not vote.

eidairaman1 · Aug 27, 2012

Vinska said:
I Only ever used Nvidia cards (not counting my old 3dfx Voodoo, testing AMD/ATI equipped rigs I sometimes fix, or my pop's intel equipped lappy) and I did/do have problems with their drivers. For example a driver bug that made many games render everything 'cept the UI much darker than it should (already fixed) or the fact that they still don't support overclocking of Fermi & Kepler GPUs. (I'm running Linux, mind You. Their Linux driver differs from their Windoze driver only slightly, though.)

Due to my lack of AMD/ATI & Intel experience, to keep it fair, I did not vote.

Gotta Realize Windows is Defacto just like CL was for Sound

librin.so.1 · Aug 27, 2012

eidairaman1 said:
Gotta Realize Windows is Defacto just like CL was for Sound

What is this "CL" You speak of?

Yeah, I know Windoze is "De Facto", but as I said - Nvidia's Windoze and Linux drivers share the majority of their codebase. But most importantly - most of the code that "is close to the graphics hardware" is either completely or nearly identical AFAIK. The "higher level outer shell" is where the most differences lie. Thus, when I'm speaking about their Linux driver, it actually mostly represents "both teams".
Along with that, I also had my share of troubles with the green team's driver on Windoze. Some were quite severe, some were small annoyances. Yet, I don't really remember it that well, having not booted up Windoze on my computer for ~3 months now.

P.S. I do give credit to the green team for the control panel they made for Linux. It is simple, right-to-the-point, no BS design, effective & packed with nice monitoring features. The monitoring features are so great that a bit more and they could advertise their driver as "packed with an in-house version of gpu-z™™©®™©™®®®©©™™ !" :roll:

eidairaman1 · Aug 27, 2012

CL= Creative Labs

Vinska said:
What is this "CL" You speak of?

Yeah, I know Windoze is "De Facto", but as I said - Nvidia's Windoze and Linux drivers share the majority of their codebase. But most importantly - most of the code that "is close to the graphics hardware" is either completely or nearly identical AFAIK. The "higher level outer shell" is where the most differences lie. Thus, when I'm speaking about their Linux driver, it actually mostly represents "both teams".
Along with that, I also had my share of troubles with the green team's driver on Windoze. Some were quite severe, some were small annoyances. Yet, I don't really remember it that well, having not booted up Windoze on my computer for ~3 months now.

P.S. I do give credit to the green team for the control panel they made for Linux. It is simple, right-to-the-point, no BS design, effective & packed with nice monitoring features. The monitoring features are so great that a bit more and they could advertise their driver as "packed with an in-house version of gpu-z™™©®™©™®®®©©™™ !"

Aquinus · Aug 27, 2012

You know, on Linux I've been vastly more satisfied with AMD drivers... and at least there are open source AMD drivers, unlike nVidia. I think I'll have to pull one out of Linus Torvald's book... "Fuck you nVidia!" :ohwell:

With this all said though, I've found Intel's and AMD's open source drivers to be the most stable. Just recently FGLRX has started acting stable for me and my dual 6870s.

librin.so.1 · Aug 27, 2012

Aquinus said:
You know, on Linux I've been vastly more satisfied with AMD drivers... and at least there are open source AMD drivers, unlike nVidia. I think I'll have to pull one out of Linus Torvald's book... "Fuck you nVidia!" With this all said though, I've found Intel's and AMD's open source drivers to be the most stable. Just recently FGLRX has started acting stable for me and my dual 6870s.

Hehe! Concerning AMD's Linux drivers - on Wine appdb, it has became almost memetic with stuff like this all over the place: "Additional comments: the fps is sh**. But I'm running fglrx [1], so It's expected. It will run fine for you nvidia guys, I bet." :roll:

[1] the AMD driver for linux

Aquinus · Aug 27, 2012

Vinska said:
Hehe! Concerning AMD's Linux drivers - on Wine appdb, it has became almost memetic with stuff like this all over the place: "Additional comments: the fps is sh**. But I'm running fglrx [1], so It's expected. It will run fine for you nvidia guys, I bet."

[1] the AMD driver for linux

I don't game on Linux unless I'm playing something like OpenArena or Minecraft. I typically boot into Linux when I have some development to get done. I also haven't noticed huge drops in speed using FGLRX. I played WoW using WINE a couple years ago for a little while and honestly, even with FGLRX, it wasn't that bad.

Also keep in mind that AMD/nVidia has no reason to make their Linux drivers any faster since Linux is such a small segment of the market. Hopefully L4D2 and Steam on Linux will help shift that focus, because *nix kernels are very capable. I mean, look at Apple. Using a super-hacked up FreeBSD kernel was the way to go and they did a pretty good job at it if you ask me. Weather or not you know, but all of Apple's mobile devices use a hacked up version of FreeBSD as well.

eidairaman1 · Aug 27, 2012

Aquinus said:
I don't game on Linux unless I'm playing something like OpenArena or Minecraft. I typically boot into Linux when I have some development to get done. I also haven't noticed huge drops in speed using FGLRX. I played WoW using WINE a couple years ago for a little while and honestly, even with FGLRX, it wasn't that bad.

Also keep in mind that AMD/nVidia has no reason to make their Linux drivers any faster since Linux is such a small segment of the market. Hopefully L4D2 and Steam on Linux will help shift that focus, because *nix kernels are very capable. I mean, look at Apple. Using a super-hacked up FreeBSD kernel was the way to go and they did a pretty good job at it if you ask me. Weather or not you know, but all of Apple's mobile devices use a hacked up version of FreeBSD as well.

i thought it was Darwin :wtf:

ReaperX87 · Aug 27, 2012

I have own AMD and Nvidia cards, for instance I had a XFX 5870 XXX edition card when BF3 came out, and I couldnt even play the game for 5 mins without my driver's failing. I switched to Nvidia and havent had a single issue plus I love how you can do a clean install just from the new driver. No unistall restart install restart bs.

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Who makes the best graphics drivers?

Who makes the best graphics drivers?

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Motherboard	ASRock Taichi x470 Ultimate
Cooling	NZXT Kraken x72
Memory	2×16GiB @ 3200MHz, some Corsair RGB led meme crap
Video Card(s)	AMD [ASUS ROG STRIX] Radeon RX Vega64 [OC Edition]
Storage	Samsung 970 Pro && 2× Seagate IronWolf Pro 4TB in Raid 1
Display(s)	Asus VG278H + Asus VH226H
Case	Fractal Design Define R6 Black TG
Audio Device(s)	Using optical S/PDIF output lol
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200i
Mouse	Razer Naga Epic
Keyboard	Keychron Q1
Software	Funtoo Linux
Benchmark Scores	217634.24 BogoMIPS

System Name	Widow Maker
Processor	Ryzen 2700X
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair Hero VII
Cooling	AIO
Memory	32GB @ 3200mhz
Video Card(s)	Evga 2080 XC gaming
Storage	WD 5tb Sata, WD 1tb WD 2.5tb Samsung 250gb SSD
Display(s)	3 27 inch benq monitors 1is 144hz 1440p
Case	Corsair 1000D
Audio Device(s)	Supreme FX XFI
Power Supply	EVGA G2 1000W
Mouse	Corsair Glaive RGB aluminium
Keyboard	Corsair K95 Plat
Software	Windows 10 64bit