Well I dumped Vista ultimate on..

[Ketxxx]

Ok so everybody kept saying vista was so good and almost orgasming over it (sad, I know) and refused to accept what I was saying about how sucky vista is. So I decided to waste time putting vista on Prowler an all I can say is it sucks royally. *insert 2-3 lines of profanity toward vista here*

Its the most retarded gay looking POS I've ever seen. Even more irritating is the fact it cant do the simplest farking task without you needing to give "permission" I mean FFS the user REQUESTED the opening of the program why the fark does vista also need "permission" stupid SOB. Then theres the audio quality, my god its HORRIBLE. I don't even want to investigate this OS anymore, the look, feel, and the way it operates actually makes me feel nauseas. I find it hard to accept after all the delays this is the best M$ could come up with, its utter shit.

Now, can anyone convince me its worth running this pile of crap for any amount of time?

 

[mullered07]

well i havent experienced any of the problems you mentioned, also just turn off the user control blah thingy to stop getting thos annoying popups, i find its more responsive than windows xp, faster (when optimised right ) and better looking. the startup time is excellent and i havent had 1 single crash/bsod at all. not bad if you ask me.

thing is like it or not your probably going to end up running this before the years out unless your one of them who is going to wait for server 07/08? one of them, it was the same with xp from 98 for me, i was like WTF?? this is crap blah blah, would i go back to 98 now ? not if you paid me. :shadedshu

 

[Ketxxx]

Its not just what I listed, theres a mountain of problems which I don't like about this OS. Before I put this on I was actually seriously considering using Linspire, got the CD right next to me. Cant even read text properly due to its default gay sort-of-bold text.

 

[Thermopylae_480]

If you can't read the text, surely you can change the color/font/size? It seems a lot of your problems could be solved with some slight setting changes. I don't know though. I haven't played around on it yet. I think you made up your mind long before you installed it though. So it's really no surprise you're taking issue with it now. Unless it just flops like WinME you'll just have to deal with it all eventually. Or you could just switch to Linux, or Mac. But I think you'd be missing out on a lot of things eventually.

To each his own though.

 

[mullered07]

Its not just what I listed, theres a mountain of problems which I don't like about this OS. Before I put this on I was actually seriously considering using Linspire, got the CD right next to me. Cant even read text properly due to its default gay sort-of-bold text.

thats called clear type, its easily turned off by going to control panel>personalization>window colour and appearence> open classic appearence properties. or just right click on the desktop and click customise you would do well to read and apply some of the tips mentioned in the sticky thread @general software. its NOT as bad as you think and as i said before is actually faster, more responsive and stable imo.

im still using xp though and will keep a copy on here as an alternative until i see no need to anymore(although im always surfing and playing cod2 through vista and havent used xp in days )

 

[wazzledoozle]

Haha you named some very noobish problems. Good luck using Linux if Vista stumps you.

 

[Apa]

If you bought that Vista edition (no tiral, no downloaded), and you decide to ditch it, any way that you could give me the license to it?

 

[plywood99]

Ok so everybody kept saying vista was so good and almost orgasming over it (sad, I know) and refused to accept what I was saying about how sucky vista is. So I decided to waste time putting vista on Prowler an all I can say is it sucks royally. *insert 2-3 lines of profanity toward vista here*

Its the most retarded gay looking POS I've ever seen. Even more irritating is the fact it cant do the simplest farking task without you needing to give "permission" I mean FFS the user REQUESTED the opening of the program why the fark does vista also need "permission" stupid SOB. Then theres the audio quality, my god its HORRIBLE. I don't even want to investigate this OS anymore, the look, feel, and the way it operates actually makes me feel nauseas. I find it hard to accept after all the delays this is the best M$ could come up with, its utter shit.

Now, can anyone convince me its worth running this pile of crap for any amount of time?

Those who already have their minds made up, will find a way to make it true...


Ply

 

[Ketxxx]

Haha you named some very noobish problems. Good luck using Linux if Vista stumps you.

Their not newb problems, their just some examples of issues I gave. I'm not going to list every single vista issue when I done so too many times before to remember.

 

[Alec§taar]

I don't have VISTA, so I have no idea, & thus no way to convince Ketxxx otherwise vs. his opinion, on the stuff he said 'bit' basically, on VISTA!

(However, @ this point, because of threads like this one? I have heard/read them, & I know there's "work-arounds" for that are permanent & do work - like turning off UAC constant hassling a user, for example.)

Others listed ways to get around the other stuff, @ least some of it @ this point... I had to show users some things in a program I wrote when it tested on VISTA, what the app had built into it, to fix the hassle they saw. Not every program's going to be like that though...

So, what do I get outta this?

ANSWER: What to do if/when I do get around to getting VISTA is all.

(Till then I stick w/ Windows Server 2003, because imo? It's very good...)

APK

P.S.=> Since this is a NEW Operating System, w/ some quirks? I tend to read just about every reply too, that offers what appear to be valid solutions... apk

 

[Scavar]

Dude Ketxxx, you didn't even give it a chance. It's clear that you decided it would be complete shit before you ever even installed it. I mean seriously everything you said, just change it. And just like any version of Windows XP, you have to tweak it a bit.

 

[Ketxxx]

No, I'm still running it now. I'm not impressed with it for almost an endless number of reasons, security flaws, OGL, resource hogging, and many others.

 

[Scavar]

Ahh well, now I feel better that you are at least making an actual attempt giving it some sort of chance.

To each his own, I don't run it on my PC yet for a reason, but I have no problem with allowing my parents to run it.

 

[Ketxxx]

As much as it kills me, I'll give it a month. 30 days to systematically pull the POS apart an see if it can at least be customised to an acceptable degree.

 

[Sovereign]

Welp, I've been using Vista Ultimate since the day it was first released on MSDN and haven't looked back. I absolutely love the look and feel of the OS. It does everything I need it to, without issues and to me personaly, gaming actualy looks better as well!

I wonder how people can still use XP these days, especialy now that Vista is here. If you have to use an OS other than Vista, do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of Media Center Edition 2005. You'll save yourself a bunch of time with updates and drivers, not to mention MCE is much more streamlined and optimized versus it's much older counterpart (yeah, I know MCE is based off of XP PRO). Also being a Mac guy, probably helps a bunch with getting used to the new look and feel of Vista.

 

[Alec§taar]

I'm not impressed with it for almost an endless number of reasons, security flaws

Actually Ketxxx, even STRAIGHT outta the box, unpatched? VISTA blows AWAY std. XP setups for security, & we've shown that in a test we did here below recently in fact!

See here:

TPU BELARC ADVISOR SYSTEM SECURITY ANALYSIS TEST:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25428&page=3

(VISTA was superior in security vs. even slightly 'security-hardened' XP user's scores (mostly those that tried it stock, got scores in the .63-1.88 or so range, & got up into the 3's via patching the OS & AntiVirus signatures), & even more hardened ones too, but by less)...

* The closest person to my 5.00/10 score got a 4.32/10 on VISTA, not even patched yet, much less fully security-hardened secure. Once he applies the 10-15 security patches for VISTA? He'll probably be RIGHT on my tail, if not pass me.

, OGL,

The ONLY thing I have tested this way was the "3dText" screensaver, which USED TO BE DONE IN OPENGL on older Windows' OS', but may be DirectX 10 now, not sure... was fast.

(I was @ BEST BUY the other day & earlier today for an hour or so each time, messing around w/ it & the BEST BUY guys had VISTA running w/ UAC turned off, so no nags, lol)

HOWEVER/GRANTED: This kind of test on my part? That is not quite the same as a game either, & I had none of those to test there.

resource hogging, and many others.

Much of the tuning & such for making XP perform oughtta work on it, try it... because I have a feeling you'd gain some (even turning off services, saving I/O cycles).

Memory savings which typically resulted on 2000/XP/Server 2003 from turning off services you don't use (as one example of commonly used tuning nowadays)?

Well, they don't appear to happen however, & I suspect that RAM goes into VISTA's new caching scheme (ala SuperFetch & what-not).

I got wind of that reading posts in the "XP Tech Support" & "XP Tweak" threads here in the GENERAL SOFTWARE section of this forums in fact...

APK

P.S.=> Just observing for now, but I have to say, what I have seen about VISTA hands-on, I liked... & also I like the fact it is pretty tunable & VERY VERY SECURE, outta the box unpatched even... apk

 

[Ketxxx]

vista may be more secure than other OS before it, but that doesnt make it good.

 

[Alec§taar]

Right, but...

vista may be more secure than other OS before it, but that doesnt make it good.

... "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...



It is better in that respect, & that much I know @ this point, per the test we ran (then again, I did not see a screenshot of the tester's results either, but I tend to take him @ his word).

I am just waiting for Monday, when the tester (CompletelyBonkers), applies all the patches to VISTA (dozen - 20 iirc) & then runs BELARC ADVISOR again... I am curious to see his results & what his score will be @ that point is all.

* Again though: Man, I have not REALLY put a lot of time into using it hands-on (maybe 2 hrs. TOPS so far, trying it @ stores, etc.)!

So I guess am not a great judge of it @ this point...

However, I do know it is better, security-wise, & for the most part, on my end which is admittedly LIMITED as far as real "testing" of it w/ all the apps I use & such?

Well, I liked it!

APK

P.S.=> To each his own... apk

 

[Wile E]

vista may be more secure than other OS before it, but that doesnt make it good.

By the same token, all the complaints you listed about it, doesn't make it bad, either. And, btw, I didn't like Ultimate either. I like Home Premium much better, maybe you should give it a try instead?

 

[JC316]

To be perfectly honest, when I had windows 98, I DESPISED XP. I hated the very idea of it, I hated everything there was about it, so I hung on to my 98 till they stopped making anything for it.

Once I made the switch, I loved it and would never go back to 98. I am thinking the same thing will happen here. As soon as the service packs come out, everything should be good.

I also agree that the things you are complaing about are trivial and could be fixed easy enough.

To each his own though. Vista may be utter crap, I cant say for sure until I get it.

 

[Ketxxx]

Theres many issues about vista that suck. Resource hogging is down to a minimum now (25%ish vs 44%) but its still not completely acceptable. Vista looks a lot like it was made for the retard, especially with the desktop icons, their simply BIG. Not unintrusive in the slightest. What barely goes just over halfway down my display on XP now goes all the way down and then a bit again on vista.

 

[BXtreme]

....u can set the icons to small ones, what's the big deal with that ? The stupid prompting is a thing that I mostly agree, it's quite dumb , but it can be safely disabled.
IF you don't like the glassyness, switch to plain aero (i'm using it, gives quite boost). I also got a gd responsiveness by switcing the start menu type to classic, it's made it fast.
Some simple tweaks can make vista look\feel . You just have to do it

 

[Grings]

its new...thats why, try comparing it to xp without sp1 or 2, thats horrible too

 

[BXtreme]

Yup!, but Vista is stable than xp without sp1/sp2.
My first xp desktop got corrupted after 2months i installed it... but it was way back in 2002 when it was first released. why ? Because it was new, it also had issues....some serious ones that is.
But Vista in it's default stage has no viewable 'serious' issues, name one ?
I'm sure you can find a solution to it, OK drivers are not ready thats another thing, cuz the manufacturer's mainly nvidia and ati weren't finished with their drivers.. It was predicted quite early.
so it's the driver's fault not the OS. It's the platform, how can it be wrong, the blocks over the platform may cause the whole thing to shatter, but not the os.

 

[b1lk1]

Haha you named some very noobish problems. Good luck using Linux if Vista stumps you.

Agreed. Like Wasszledoozle says, why not install linux and tell people why it is better. What a childish rant..........