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Any Thoughts?
I'm already aware hasewell is coming in June but I have a great sell price on another system that I can't pass up and Hasewell seems to only have a 5-10% increase.

6/2/13 update:
Since I've waited this long I'm going for Haswell, don't care if it will be a 50 dollar premium.
I switched cases to get a 240mm rad and have decided my main goal is noise reduction.

6/17/13 update:
Changed my mind on the motherboard, ordered the case, and decided to get a better sound card and buy it used on ebay.

7/9/13 update:
I received the remaining parts last week however the motherboard didn't like the ram so I ordered different ram.

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We can discuss only the budget if you will but if is not an issue for you that is a really good setup, go for it ...
 
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MATX fan here. I have maximus IV Gene-z. Wonderful motherboard. You will enjoy.

All other selections look very nice too. Not a sound card guy, but I'm told they do make a difference.

And 7970 will do anything you need to do.

Will need pictures.
 

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I'm already aware hasewell is coming in June but I have a great sell price on another system that I can't pass up and hasewell seems to only have a 5-10% increase.

Yeah, but that neglects all the other features that Haswell will offer. If it does have a flexible bclk, that alone would make the upgrade worth it IMHO.
 
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Yeah, but that neglects all the other features that Haswell will offer. If it does have a flexible bclk, that alone would make the upgrade worth it IMHO.

What is bclk?
The system in my profile (with a cheaper case) is going to get me $540 cash, that's why I'm rushing this.
 

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Just a quick note- the Silverstone TJ-08E and PS-07 cases are not that kind to modular psu's due to limited room between the psu and drive bays. It will be a tight fit.

I did a PS-07 build and tried it with two non-modular psu's (CX-430 and TX-750) and there is more than enough room to route all of the cables behind the mobo tray and to tuck the unused cables back there neatly and cleanly. ;)
 
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Anybody have any objections to getting a i5-3570K instead?
It is 110 dollars cheaper plus 10 dollar giftcard on newegg right now.
 
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Yeah for gaming just save the money and get the 3570K. Also since you are tight on space and heat output I strongly recommend a gtx670, especially thinking of the new mini-DCU from Asus. The HX750 is quite big in size too. You may also want to consider H60i or another AIO unit cause the radiator sizes are quite different (surprisingly). My flatmate has the old H60 which does 55c on 4.4Ghz overclocked 3570K
 
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Yeah for gaming just save the money and get the 3570K. Also since you are tight on space and heat output I strongly recommend a gtx670, especially thinking of the new mini-DCU from Asus. The HX750 is quite big in size too. You may also want to consider H60i or another AIO unit cause the radiator sizes are quite different (surprisingly). My flatmate has the old H60 which does 55c on 4.4Ghz overclocked 3570K

I already have the hx750 so at the very least I'm going to try it.
The 7970 is on par with a 680, there should be enough length, as for the heat I have no idea.
As far as the h80i vs h60i I haven't gone through these threads to see what people have installed.
I should mention I plan to remove the three 3.5in hard drive bay as I plan to only use 2 ssds.
 
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You simply have to look at the TDP of the card to estimate the heat output. But anyway if the 7970 will fit then its good. As for the cooler, the H80 will be like 10-15% better but its all about the radiator size problem in a very small pc case.
 
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And it will look like this:


That shows how the H80 fits. That is not my system. It was a system listed on CL that I was interested in.
 
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Looks good. I've had problems with Radeon drivers in the past though so I'd go with an Nvidia card, such as the 680 or Titan. For me, it doesn't really matter how fast a bit of hardware is if the drivers glitch and crash.
 
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Looks good. I've had problems with Radeon drivers in the past though so I'd go with an Nvidia card, such as the 680 or Titan. For me, it doesn't really matter how fast a bit of hardware is if the drivers glitch and crash.

the only time i have ever ran into ati driver issues is trying to use old AGP ati cards with windows 7. but i have owned x800gt, x800xt, x1900xt, 3850, 4850, 4870x2 4850x2, 5850 and a 5970 and i have never had a single driver issue.
 

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I would get the Gigabyte 7970 non GE version, then flash the GE bios to it.

Also swap the thermal paste to Arctic Cooling MX4.
 
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I would get the Gigabyte 7970 non GE version, then flash the GE bios to it.

Also swap the thermal paste to Arctic Cooling MX4.

The only problem with the gigabyte card is that it only has one dvi port and I have three monitors.
I have one mini display port to dvi already, but that would require me to buy another.
Would 30 dollars to get the adapter be worth the 1100/1500 rate for the gigabyte with flashed bios?
 
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If you set up 2 computers, one with a 3770 and one with a 4770, I doubt that you could tell the difference from just using them. I'd save the $100.
 
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If you set up 2 computers, one with a 3770 and one with a 4770, I doubt that you could tell the difference from just using them. I'd save the $100.

Comparing IB i7 to HS i5, I mean.
 
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Sweet

Nice system, but I'd make a couple of changes. First, the Xonar DGX is not necessary, it has the same specs as the Supreme FX III chip built into the motherboard, so that's $50 saved. Second, 16 GB of RAM is also overkill on what is obviously a gaming system, unless it will be used for high resolution photo/video editing or CAD as well, so another $50 could easily be lopped off the total. Lastly, the OCZ Vector is a crapshoot; seems that many are arriving DOA or dying after a short time. A more reliable alternative might be a Corsair Neutron GTX, Samsung 840 Pro, or the new Crucial M500 (which beats the Vector in several real world tests). And yes, go for the 3770k for $230 if you can get to a MicroCenter (in-store only), that's a great deal.
 
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Nice system, but I'd make a couple of changes. First, the Xonar DGX is not necessary, it has the same specs as the Supreme FX III chip built into the motherboard, so that's $50 saved. Second, 16 GB of RAM is also overkill on what is obviously a gaming system, unless it will be used for high resolution photo/video editing or CAD as well, so another $50 could easily be lopped off the total. Lastly, the OCZ Vector is a crapshoot; seems that many are arriving DOA or dying after a short time. A more reliable alternative might be a Corsair Neutron GTX, Samsung 840 Pro, or the new Crucial M500 (which beats the Vector in several real world tests). And yes, go for the 3770k for $230 if you can get to a MicroCenter (in-store only), that's a great deal.
I currently have a xonar dg and it sounds better than the sound on my crosshair 5 which is also "supreme fx", it is 40 on amazon.
I already bought the ram for 103 with coupon.
I have decided to get the Samsung 840 pro, which is currently $220.
 
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I currently have a xonar dg and it sounds better than the sound on my crosshair 5 which is also "supreme fx", it is 40 on amazon.
I already bought the ram for 103 with coupon.
I have decided to get the Samsung 840 pro, which is currently $220.

If the cheaper Xonar DG sounds better than Supreme FX, I'm sure the DGX will be even better, I was only going by the specs. I use the optical SPDIF out on my Asus P8Z77-V (Realtek ALC892), and it sounds fantastic through my modest home theater system.
RAM is cheap, so 16 GB won't break anyone's bank, and a c-note is a pretty good deal for those sticks.
Good choice on the 840 Pro, after the early firmware problem was fixed, I have heard no complaints at all about these drives.
 
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If the cheaper Xonar DG sounds better than Supreme FX, I'm sure the DGX will be even better, I was only going by the specs. I use the optical SPDIF out on my Asus P8Z77-V (Realtek ALC892), and it sounds fantastic through my modest home theater system.
RAM is cheap, so 16 GB won't break anyone's bank, and a c-note is a pretty good deal for those sticks.
Good choice on the 840 Pro, after the early firmware problem was fixed, I have heard no complaints at all about these drives.
Both the Xonar DG and DGX use the C-Media CMI8786, I believe the only difference is pci vs pci-express.
As for the sound quality your using SPDIF output, which is digital.
I'm using the analog 3.5mm with headphones.
If I understand correctly a soundcard won't make a difference if your using a digital output.
 
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Comparing IB i7 to HS i5, I mean.

HS is only expected to be a little faster than IB, like IB was to SB. One of the benefits of waiting for HS is that you should be able to upgrade to an even faster processor when HS's successor comes out. I don't think you will regret getting the 3770K though. It is a difficult decision, and no choice is wrong.
Did you read this comparison of the 3570K vs. the 3770K?
 

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The new iVRMs on Haswell (are people really calling it HS now? :confused:) run at higher frequencies than traditional VRMs do and with output ratings as high as they are, I suspect that Intel has improved power delivery. I suspect more stable voltages are to come so maybe higher overclocks?

Haswell is expected to come out this quarter. What I've read says it's going to be a June release, maybe earlier.
 
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Cooling ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm
Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
Video Card(s) MSI R6870 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 1GB
Storage 16GB Kingston S100 SSD | 320GB SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 | 1TB Seagate
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster P2370 1920x1080
Case LIAN LI ARMORSUIT PC-P50R
Power Supply CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
Software Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
HS is only expected to be a little faster than IB, like IB was to SB. One of the benefits of waiting for HS is that you should be able to upgrade to an even faster processor when HS's successor comes out. I don't think you will regret getting the 3770K though. It is a difficult decision, and no choice is wrong.
Did you read this comparison of the 3570K vs. the 3770K?
Right but if I can get the i7 3770K for 230 it makes the decision more complicated.
 
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