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Intel Roadmap Outlines LGA to BGA Transition

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Intel's first processors in the BGA (ball-grid array) package, arrive by the end of 2013, according to a leaked roadmap slide. Some of the first of these processors will span across entry-level market segments, covering the Celeron and Pentium brands. The term system-on-chip (SoC) better defines these chips than processors, as they completely integrate the processor as we know it, with the motherboard chipset. Motherboards with BGA processors come with the processors non-replaceable, and hard-wired to the board, with a stock fan-heatsink.

Intel's first SoCs for the desktop are based on the "BayTrail-D" silicon. These include the Celeron J1750, Celeron J1850, and Pentium J2850. Celeron J1750 is a dual-core part, with the CPU cores clocked at 2.41 GHz, GPU at 792 MHz, and a TDP rated at just 10W. Celeron J1850, on the other hand, is a quad-core part, with its CPU cores clocked at 2.00 GHz, and the same 792 MHz GPU. Pentium J2850 tops the series, being a quad-core part with CPU cores running at 2.41 GHz, and GPU at 792 MHz. Both these quad-core parts stick to 10W TDP. Being SoCs, these chips integrate connectivity otherwise handled by a PCH, into the processor package. According to an Intel roadmap slide, the three parts will spearhead Intel's BGA CPU lineup deep into 2014, at least as far as late-June.



Then there are the mainstream-thru-performance segments. These are chips based on the Haswell-GT3 package. Haswell GT3 is a quad-core Haswell silicon with a larger iGPU. This iGPU features double the number of execution units to conventional Haswell GT1/GT2 (40 EUs vs. 20 EUs); and a large L4 eDRAM cache. Among the first BGA performance-segment parts from Intel, are the Core i5-4570R, i5-4670R, and Core i7-4770R.

The i5-4570R features 2.70 GHz CPU clocks, 3.20 GHz Turbo Boost, 4 MB of L3 cache, Iris Pro 5200 graphics clocked at 1150 MHz, and 65W TDP. The i5-4670R ups that with 3.00 GHz CPU clocks, 3.70 GHz Turbo Boost, the same 4 MB of L3 cache, but faster Iris Pro graphics clocked at 1.30 GHz. Leading the pack is the Core i7-4770R, with 6 MB L3 cache, HyperThreading, 3.20 GHz CPU clocks, 3.90 GHz Turbo Boost, and the same 1.30 GHz graphics core.

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Oh well, it looks like my next processor will be an amd one if intel wants to go down this road.
 
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I wonder what an enthusiast bga system would look like. Sounds like and oxymoron in a way.
 
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I'd probably be okay with it as long as the board doesn't die. Given my track record with my current fleet of i7 systems, I think I'll be alright. It's not so good for people who swap CPUs or boards often, though.
 

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I assume these soldered chips are finding their way into systems that fulfill a menial task (like internet...the lion's share of devices these days). Soldering should mean cheaper, smaller, and more energy efficient. If it delivers on all of those metrics, it will be good. If it does not, it will be bad.

I don't think soldered chips will threaten high end systems any time soon because none of the above is a huge concern.
 
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I assume these soldered chips are finding their way into systems that fulfill a menial task (like internet...the lion's share of devices these days). Soldering should mean cheaper, smaller, and more energy efficient. If it delivers on all of those metrics, it will be good. If it does not, it will be bad.

I don't think soldered chips will threaten high end systems any time soon because none of the above is a huge concern.

Well, the i7 R-series processors are very close in performance to the highest end LGA1150 chips, so I'm not sure that they are just for menial tasks, particularly since the 128MB L4 cache can be used to accelerate applications other than graphics. The i7-4770R is a fast chip and I'm sure there are applications where the benefit from the cache more than compensates for the reduced base clock speeds.

I've never replaced a processor and not the motherboard at the same time, so I am not bothered by not being able to separate them. But I don't want to be stuck buying a top-end motherboard if I want a top-end processor. I don't use all the integrated functions (extra SATA. USB, etc.) on most high end motherboards and would prefer to save the money.

Edit: I noticed that even some low end Celerons will now be quad-core. That's quite a testament to how far processors have come.
 
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10w quad-core? That's >9" tablet territory *drools*
 

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i doubt these will end up in desktops - just portables and nettops.

people can stop their fanboying and doomsaying.
 

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i doubt these will end up in desktops - just portables and nettops.

people can stop their fanboying and doomsaying.

They're desktop parts, meant for PC motherboards. The Pentium and Celeron parts will make it to nettops and mini-ITX motherboards; while the Core i5/i7 ones will go to mini-ITX and ATX/micro-ATX motherboards.
 

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Actually, these would be really nice chips for a home server or something similar, 10W TDP is fantastic. Might require a separate RAID card for the hard drives though, as I'm sure Intel will gimp these "SoC's" hard and only allow two SATA 3Gbps devices or something similarly stupid...
 

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They're desktop parts, meant for PC motherboards. The Pentium and Celeron parts will make it to nettops and mini-ITX motherboards; while the Core i5/i7 ones will go to mini-ITX and ATX/micro-ATX motherboards.

perhaps i should have been more specific and said 'full size desktops'
 

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I'm fairly certain Core i5/i7 BGA chips will make a killing with "full size" HP and Dell desktops. Iris 5200 with 40 EUs could get danger-close to AMD Richland graphics, and Haswell CPU cores will obviously outperform Piledriver CPU cores at these clock speeds.
 

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Hmmm...
 

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I dont really remember a time when i replaced my cpu and kept the motherboard or wise-versa (apart from one time in which i killed my cpu which was my own fault),BGA does not bother me at all.
 
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I dont really remember a time when i replaced my cpu and kept the motherboard or wise-versa (apart from one time in which i killed my cpu which was my own fault),BGA does not bother me at all.

As long as the BGA boards used arent completely awful and terribly made, then its not that bad. Everyone who uses Intel buys a new board with each new processor anyway.
 

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try delidding that! lol
 

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try delidding that! lol

It's probably not lidded in the first place since it's a BGA chip. I don't find that many BGA chips have heatspreaders.
 

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If they are going to solder 4670K to Maximus VI HERO I am not going to complain, but if they are going to solder 3770K to a H61 board there will be problems.
 

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It's probably not lidded in the first place since it's a BGA chip. I don't find that many BGA chips have heatspreaders.

There's no relation between BGA and lacking IHS.
 
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all nooby jokes aside. i dont think this is the right path for any processor company to follow for any desktop systems!

what happens to motherboard manufacturers?

what happens if a single component fails, means youll have to strip the lot.

enthusiasts will be put off by not having a 'unique', interchangeable system.

and extreme overclocking would be a nightmare.


im not that biased, i have better things to care about. but it would be good if intel could have this and LGA still in the market.

BGA for the small ITX builds etc
LGA for the rest.

if not welcome to the red side in advance ;)
 
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God, I miss the old days when you could install on the same motherboard processors from Intel, AMD, Cytrix or IBM. That were good times.
 

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There's no relation between BGA and lacking IHS.

Then show me a BGA chip with a heatspreader then. I've yet to see one.
 
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