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I spent over 70hrs+ in the air in battlefield 2. It might not be as much as other people but thats a lot of fucking hours considering most of the games i joined lasted over an hour and Id like to think that as a veteran pilot that my opinion means something.

No one cares, welcome to the real world.
 

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Well I only really wanted two seater jets like we have two seater attack helicopters as that's my only chance to get off the damn ground in these games and do something besides just ride. I do not have the time or patience to learn to fly myself really however I might put more effort into trying to learn in BF4 as will have the practice mode. I can keep a bird in the air at this point but forget about combat.
 
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No one cares, welcome to the real world.

this thread isn't about real world its about Battlefield so leave the real world and welcome to Battlefield.
 
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Explain please.

Anyone?

New Battlefield blog post - The Road to Battlefield 4: The Ultimate Guide to the BF4 Vehicles

In this new entry in our “Road to Battlefield 4” blog series we roll out the vehicles! Read on and learn how to master the land, air and sea units as our vehicle ...

Without vehicles burning down and being destroyed, I think vehicle theft is going to be happening more often in BF4. I'm sure there's a timing that if left alone long enough it just explodes, but I can still see a lot more instances where people just leave the vehicle because they're not an engineer.
 
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Battlefieldo - BF4: All the Launchers...

Hi everyone! So today daskro posted a video that showed all of the launchers in the new game, including a new Battle Pickup. There are some additions to what we used in BF3 as well as some interesting changes!

The new Pickup is called the HVM, or the Starstreak. Hmmm...looks pretty cool in real life:


Here is daskro's video, check it out!

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And the survey says!

See how your thoughts compare to your fellow players...

Independent Battlefield 4 community survey results Summary at 1212 responses, by Eric Gulve – xpc_absol and @absol_89
Survey results
 
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Why in the world would they take away my best two guns: an-94 and m27?

I love the an-94 because I can pick off annoying recons with the 2 burst and the m27 + extended mag is best clip style lmg as it has the fastest reload of any of the lmgs while still be able to hit a target consistently at reasonable distance. I always like the extended mag since I can give cover to my squad mates (who are usually assault) so they have time to reload. I just keep the target suppressed until my squad mates are ready to go.

I think the m27 is better then the l86 because it is just as accurate at range but with a much quicker reload with 1 bullet in the chamber of 1.9s (the l86 is a full second longer with 1 bullet and a little more the 1 sec longer with an empty mag). Yet we get the l86? Sigh, at least maybe there's hope for the an-94.
 
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You don't get the L86. It's not there either.

Honestly, in the end, the only weapon change I care for is M16 not being THE gun anymore. That's more or less all I needed to be happy.
 
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Why in the world would they take away my best two guns: an-94 and m27?

I love the an-94 because I can pick off annoying recons with the 2 burst and the m27 + extended mag is best clip style lmg as it has the fastest reload of any of the lmgs while still be able to hit a target consistently at reasonable distance. I always like the extended mag since I can give cover to my squad mates (who are usually assault) so they have time to reload. I just keep the target suppressed until my squad mates are ready to go.

I think the m27 is better then the l86 because it is just as accurate at range but with a much quicker reload with 1 bullet in the chamber of 1.9s (the l86 is a full second longer with 1 bullet and a little more the 1 sec longer with an empty mag). Yet we get the l86? Sigh, at least maybe there's hope for the an-94.

L86 is a bit easier to control than the M27 (spread is identical except for prone), while the M27 has the faster reload times. Both are my goto LMGs (with the MG36 as good 3rd option), though I am a HBar user myself.
Honestly I don't care which guns make it into the game, it is all about how DICE balances them (kick, horizontal recoil, vertical recoil, reload times, ADS spread, Hip spread, bullet speed, etc.).
 

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All joking aside, I do agree with freedomeclipse on this. And Wriggly for that matter. Two seated jets would have been epic. I had a 45 kill streak as a gunner once in BF2. Kudos to the pilot on that one. Never flew with him again but they couldn't touch us. Miss that second seat.

Also the M27 can't even hold the L86 lunch in accuracy.....and we don't get it either. Also were is the M60 and the M14/M21?
 

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maybe they should have made the second seat a vehicle perk that could be unlocked just like a 3rd seat in a tank?
 

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Mayhaps, indeed. That would've been the best way to do it too IMO (pilot unlock for anyone on his jet). While I am reluctant to see jets with even more power as I already get owned too easily by good pilots at least this would've given me another way to be able go after them. I doubt they woulda done bombs but a gunner seat like the alternate on top of the gunship? C'mon that would be tits!

Honestly, in the end, the only weapon change I care for is M16 not being THE gun anymore. That's more or less all I needed to be happy.

LOL I missed the "not" at first and, needless to say, I was not pleased. :p

I do agree with freedomeclipse on this. And Wriggly for that matter.

There's a first time for everything! Could always be added later too I guess. Maybe in a DLC.
 
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Also the M27 can't even hold the L86 lunch in accuracy.....and we don't get it either. Also were is the M60 and the M14/M21?

I think they messed up the M27 in the last patch. If you want head shots you have to aim for the chest. Aiming for the head is going to mostly get you misses.
 

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Is that the one where you go from a PC to a Mac and they give you a complimentary set of black horned rim glasses?
 
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Got my 16 GB of RAM, GTX 770, and reinstalled my Xonar sound card. Time to play BF4!
I'm probably bumping up my ram too. I'm waiting to see how the Beta plays first though. I may sell my 670 and get a 4 gig version too.
Currently dumping all my funds into the GTO though on upgrades. $800 more dollars and I'm done with it for awhile though.
 
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Joystiq - Battlefield 4 Open Beta launches October 1

Battlefield 4's Open Beta is set to detonate on the PC, 360 and PS3 on October 1, EA revealed on Friday. The game's next-gen counterparts have also been given street dates: November 12 for PlayStation 4 and November 19 for Xbox One, three days before the console's release on November 22.

EA noted in the announcement that beta players will be able to "learn maps, unlock items and build stats" for use in the October 29 release of Battlefield 4. Players can also carry over stats, unlocks and awards from the 360 and PS3 to the Xbox One or PS4 versions once they launch in November. Those looking to upgrade should check into the programs that offer deals towards buying the next-gen version of games they already own.

Those that sign up for Battlefield 4 Premium, pre-order Battlefield 4 Digital Deluxe or that have purchased Medal of Honor: Warfighter's deluxe or limited editions will be granted access to the "Exclusive" Battlefield 4 beta. The Beta's FAQ lists that the Exclusive Beta will also begin in early October - meanwhile this EA help article says that the Open Beta comes after the Exclusive one. We've reached out to EA for more information.

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Where's the PC deal?

The PC deal is that despite a new generation of consoles, the PC still get's the best version of the game.

All discounts available to buy the PC version have been in Europe. In the US, EA has been able to hold the line at MSRP.
 
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PBBANS - BF4 GSP list update:

According to our sources, we now know which providers are "confirmed" and "set aside" that will host Battlefield 4 PC Game Servers.

The "confirmed" list is as follows, and may be subject to change without warning:
  • NFO Servers
  • I3D Servers
  • Multiplay
  • Gamed.de
  • Gameservers
Here are the list of GSP's that were "set aside" for future debate:
  • Gaming Deluxe
  • Iberbit Servers
  • Branzone
  • Fragnet
  • Hosters.at
  • Rackage
  • Low Ping Game Servers
  • Art of War Central
  • It is not known what the fate of these two providers are:
  • EOReality Servers
  • My Internet Services
There are currently two reddit articles about this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/1mftvu/how_will_your_bf3_community_be_impacted_by_denial/
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1mbvh4/bf4_limiting_server_adminowners_options_on_where/
There is also a petition going on to get more GSP's in the confirmed list:
==>https://www.change.org/petitions/don-t-slim-the-battlefield-4-gsp-list
I hope the list gets bigger, but, who knows.

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION! - GULLY
 
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New Battlefield blog post - Ask DICE: Battlefield 4

09.15.13
[EA] LooooveCommander | 09.15.13
We’ve been seeing questions pouring in from fans who are excited for the launch of Battlefield 4 – now less than 2 months away!

In the spirit of keeping our fans informed and Prepared 4 Battle we’re continuing a new series called “Ask DICE,” featuring questions that we’ve received from Battlefield players with answers straight from the development team at DICE. Check back here at the Battlefield blog every other week for answers, exclusive info, and more.

Battlefield 4 Q&A
Today we’re answering your questions about weapons and vehicles, two pillars of the Battlefield series that we’re striving to improve every day. We’ll also answer other questions on the topics you’re interested in.

Bonethepwn asked, “Will the weapon modifications be better balanced than in BF3, where most people relied on a couple of very strong modifications and discarded the rest?”

We’ve always strived for great weapon balance and numerous customization possibilities over the years, and now you can expect an even greater amount of depth. Listening to our fans, we’ve worked with everything from perfecting that sense of “oomph” in our guns, to bringing back some favorite weapons to Battlefield 4 – all of which have been completely rebalanced.

To that end, we wanted to let players know how modifications affect their weapons right away, hopefully encouraging people to play around with them more instead of just settling on one combination because you know it works. Browsing through the accessories, you’ll notice a handy visual guide on the right part of your screen. Here, weapon stats such as damage, accuracy, hip fire accuracy, range, and stability are displayed in easy to read bars so you can immediately gauge what effect equipping a certain accessory has. Slap on the Laser Sight, for instance, and you’ll see the hip fire (accuracy) bar go up. Attach an Angled Grip on a rifle and you’ll notice an increase in the weapon’s stability. This interface is designed to encourage experimentation and make your Battlefield 4 experience even more rewarding.

Familysccrk asked, “What new vehicles will there be?”
We’ll have a ton of new vehicles in BF4, including attack boats, personal watercraft, jets, and more. We’ll keep you updated as we go along, but here’s a teaser list of some new vehicles in the Chinese forces we’ll be introducing.

→ Type 99 MBT
→ ZFB-05 Armored Car
→ Z-10W Attack Heli

More importantly, your vehicles will be customizable as Battlefield 4 introduces several new options for you to experiment with before reach round. Let’s say you want to customize the features of your main battle tanks. When picking your primary weapon you’re faced with the choice of a 120MM Armor Piercing Shell or a High Explosive Shell. The former is reasonably fast and deals a good amount of direct damage, but the latter spells heavy damage against armored targets at the cost of a slower flight speed of the shells. As always, it’s a matter of personal taste and what kind of resistance you expect on the Battlefield.

In Battlefield 3 there were three vehicle customization slots; Secondary Weapons, Gadgets and Upgrades. In Battlefield 4, we’ve added customization options for the primary weapon slot, and split gadgets up into two new slots, Optics and Countermeasures. Unlocks for Optics and Countermeasures shared the same customization slot in Battlefield 3, which wasn’t optimal when it came to tanks. When you had to choose between optics modes and a protective countermeasure, the countermeasure is sort of a no-brainer, which takes player’s control out of that choice. So adding dedicated countermeasure and optic slots removes that problem and adds more customization options. Now tanks have more countermeasure options and they can be used at the same time as any optics unlock.

AssassinPiggy12 asked, “How are you going to stop people from causing the big Levolution moments right off the bat in the beginning of the game?”

Many of the big Levolution moments take time to trigger. For example, the skyscraper in Siege of Shanghai requires four big pillars to be destroyed; a task that isn’t so easy if your or another squad makes it their personal goal to stop someone from knocking them down.

On Paracel Storm, you have to wait for the raging storm to roll in before you can really deal damage to it. Once lightning strikes the wind turbine, then players can work to take it down and free the destroyer next to it. And again, you’ll have to deal with other players getting in your way and trying to take you out while you destroy it.

NWI_AZTEC asked, “What game modes will be available for the Siege of Shanghai Beta?”

The Beta will feature the Conquest game mode.

You can get into the Beta starting early October 2013 by pre-ordering the Battlefield 4™ Digital Deluxe Edition on Origin.com, by being a Battlefield 3: Premium member, and by being a registered owner of Medal of Honor Warfighter Limited Edition or Digital Deluxe Edition.

The Beta will be exclusive to the aforementioned group for three days and then it will open up to all players on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC.

Excalibucreation stated, “System requirements would be nice so I can play the game.”

Check them out, are you prepared for battle?



Shams_123 asked, “Is the Commander Mode available for current-gen consoles?”

Commander Mode is definitely available on current-gen. As the Commander, you’ll have a birds-eye view of the battlefield, and you’ll be able to support your team with a variety of assets – cruise missile strikes, EMPs, map scans, a gunship, and more.

Players will also experience Levolution moments on current-gen including a damaged destroyer ramming a beach, bringing down a massive skyscraper, and much more. Frostbite 3 is the tech that will deliver this, in addition to battling enemies in an all-new type of naval warfare, experiencing changing weather and stormy seas and even being a Commander on the go with your tablet.

So don’t worry – you’ll still get the Battlefield 4 experience on current- gen consoles. We know a lot of our players will be playing on those systems, so we’re taking the time to make sure it’s just as great an experience as it will be on next-gen.

Until next time…

Check back here at the Battlefield blog every other Friday for answers, gameplay previews, and more.

Next time we’ll be answering questions about Battlelog and Current/Next-Gen, as well as any other burning questions. What questions do you have? Let us know in the comments below.
 

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