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EVGA GTX 780 Ti SuperClocked w/ ACX Cooler 3 GB

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Say something like a GTX 690 with "just" 2GB was averaging 100fps, but then ran out of memory on an especially intensive part of the benchmark, what sort of framerate figures would we see?

It depends on how much of those textures the application really uses on an ongoing basis. If it constantly has to shuffle stuff from main memory via PCIe into VRAM and back it will be extremely slow.

In reality it won't be as much of an issue, educated guess, around 30% performance lost. I'm not thinking about GTX 690 now, more like lower midrange 1 GB card.
 
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Impressive results, when can we expect the Classy or non-reference 290[X] reviews?
 

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Impressive results, when can we expect the Classy or non-reference 290[X] reviews?

No concrete date for either. The vendors probably don't know themselves.
 

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I've just properly read that review (I skimmed it previously) and I must say I'm impressed with what this cooler has done for the 780 Ti. It's even increased the bang-for-buck rating, which isn't normally the case.

I'd love to see what custom coolers from other players can do with this card.

Great review as always, W1zz. :toast:
 
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Is there any chance of getting a ACX vs Reference SLI review? I was going to wait for the ACX EVGA card but ended up going with the EVGA superclocked reference model because it was available last week and the ACX wasn't (and people seem to think the blower coolers are better for SLI). I'd love to see a SLI benchmark pitting the superclocked versions against each other...
 
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No concrete date for either. The vendors probably don't know themselves.

How about the inclusion of 5760x1080P on the performance summaries since you have run many of the individual benchmarks at these settings? :toast:
 

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Is there any chance of getting a ACX vs Reference SLI review? I was going to wait for the ACX EVGA card but ended up going with the EVGA superclocked reference model because it was available last week and the ACX wasn't (and people seem to think the blower coolers are better for SLI). I'd love to see a SLI benchmark pitting the superclocked versions against each other...

no plans for any 780 Ti SLI reviews

How about the inclusion of 5760x1080P on the performance summaries since you have run many of the individual benchmarks at these settings? :toast:

that's planned for next rebench. the results cant be included in the overall summary of all resolutions though, because I don't test all cards at that resolution, nor do they all support triple monitor
 
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Power draw?
It is one of the most efficient GPU out there at higher resolution, nuff said.
 
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I would like to see the actual performance difference between equally clocked 780 and 780 Ti.
 
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No concrete date for either. The vendors probably don't know themselves.

I can understand that there are no custom PCB cards for the new AMDs for about 1-2 months after release, but why there are no custom coolers from day 1 on AMD's side? XFX showed it was possible with the 7970 cards (but other brands didn't have any options for more than a month) and on NVidia side we also get custom cooled card rly fast.

If at least AMD stock cooler was not a total failure...


I would like to see the actual performance difference between equally clocked 780 and 780 Ti.

Yeah I'd like that too... plus the Titan. All 780s and Titans can do a base 3d clock of 1000mhz without voltage boost I guess...
 
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It seems I don't understand marketing very well..

First, Nvidia announces some uber expensive and performing GPU, the Titan. Afterwards it releases the 780 which is pretty close and makes it look like good value for money compared to the Titan - but still expensive nonetheless (good strategy to get more money I guess). Then they release the "Titan killer" - which AMD was supposed to do - with the 780Ti. If I am not mistaken, the only thing that the Titan has to offer over the 780Ti is extra RAM practically.

On the AMD side, they came with cards that run hot and are noisy as hell but are excellent performers and with a good price. The 290x started trading blows with the 780 - never mind the Titan any longer - but then they won't let them be released with aftermarket coolers. After that, they release the 290 which was very close performance wise to the 290x but even cheaper and it was a better OCer.

Is it only me that is getting confused here? Quite honestly, I want to upgrade my GPU since the 480 is starting to rust, so to speak and I no longer have any clue as to what to get.. Sell my left kidney and buy a 780Ti or keep it and get deafened and sweaty by a 290 or 290x? I honestly don't know any more but it seems I should wait until they release more 780Ti's and for AMD to let aftermarket coolers added on their new GPUs.
 

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It seems I don't understand marketing very well..

First, Nvidia announces some uber expensive and performing GPU, the Titan. Afterwards it releases the 780 which is pretty close and makes it look like good value for money compared to the Titan - but still expensive nonetheless (good strategy to get more money I guess). Then they release the "Titan killer" - which AMD was supposed to do - with the 780Ti. If I am not mistaken, the only thing that the Titan has to offer over the 780Ti is extra RAM practically.

On the AMD side, they came with cards that run hot and are noisy as hell but are excellent performers and with a good price. The 290x started trading blows with the 780 - never mind the Titan any longer - but then they won't let them be released with aftermarket coolers. After that, they release the 290 which was very close performance wise to the 290x but even cheaper and it was a better OCer.

Is it only me that is getting confused here? Quite honestly, I want to upgrade my GPU since the 480 is starting to rust, so to speak and I no longer have any clue as to what to get.. Sell my left kidney and buy a 780Ti or keep it and get deafened and sweaty by a 290 or 290x? I honestly don't know any more but it seems I should wait until they release more 780Ti's and for AMD to let aftermarket coolers added on their new GPUs.

Good points you raise there - and I'm not surprised you're confused as these things are always a bit of a grey area.

Personally, I prefer NVIDIA as they tend to have the better all-round product and I've been using them happily for years - just check the reviews on here to see what I mean.

You can stick a 780 / 780 Ti in your system and have superb framerate performance for reasonable noise without having to worry about any annoying issues. Oh and that stock cooler is very nice in terms of performance and looks. All this comes at a rather premium price, of course and that does suck, I know.

However, after all is said and done, the only thing wrong I can really see with the 290 / 290X is that daft stock cooler. Yes, it seems to be beyond comprehension why AMD are forcing their partners to wait with custom coolers and it's frustrating, but they are.

I'd say wait a month or so before buying anything. The 780 Ti will drop in price and those 290 / 290X cards with custom coolers will be out along with the reviews. We'll then see what this chip can really do when not strangled by heat. You'll then be in a much better position to decide what to buy - and you'll get more for your money.

Whatever you do, don't buy the Titan as it's stupidly expensive and a total waste of money. That 6GB RAM isn't required, it runs slower than a 780 Ti in games with its only advantage being compute, which isn't used by most enthusiasts. It's more for scientific modelling, things like that.
 
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It seems I don't understand marketing very well..

First, Nvidia announces some uber expensive and performing GPU, the Titan. Afterwards it releases the 780 which is pretty close and makes it look like good value for money compared to the Titan - but still expensive nonetheless (good strategy to get more money I guess). Then they release the "Titan killer" - which AMD was supposed to do - with the 780Ti. If I am not mistaken, the only thing that the Titan has to offer over the 780Ti is extra RAM practically.

On the AMD side, they came with cards that run hot and are noisy as hell but are excellent performers and with a good price. The 290x started trading blows with the 780 - never mind the Titan any longer - but then they won't let them be released with aftermarket coolers. After that, they release the 290 which was very close performance wise to the 290x but even cheaper and it was a better OCer.

Is it only me that is getting confused here? Quite honestly, I want to upgrade my GPU since the 480 is starting to rust, so to speak and I no longer have any clue as to what to get.. Sell my left kidney and buy a 780Ti or keep it and get deafened and sweaty by a 290 or 290x? I honestly don't know any more but it seems I should wait until they release more 780Ti's and for AMD to let aftermarket coolers added on their new GPUs.

You're forgetting that Titan is nearly a year old, and was basically a poor-man's Tesla K20/K20X. It was a really good card for people that needed compute, and saved them some money (about $2000+ in fact), it just happened to have solid enough gaming performance. The Nvidia Titan was a bad deal for gamers, but a great deal for people who wanted Tesla's. It was a workstation GPU that was poorly marketted to gamers as well.
 
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Looking at the power consumption (nearly identical to the R9 290/X) this give me high hopes for after cooling on those AMD products. Seriously someone that's as much of a dunce as EVGA at cooling can do that, imagine the nuts at MSI or ASUS.
 
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Looking at the power consumption (nearly identical to the R9 290/X) this give me high hopes for after cooling on those AMD products. Seriously someone that's as much of a dunce as EVGA at cooling can do that, imagine the nuts at MSI or ASUS.

Keep in mind the recent AMD releases were designed to run hot, so I wouldn't expect the temperatures to absolutely plummet, but there's no way that stock\reference cooler is anything short of loud garbage.
 
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Awesome card with that stock speed... but I can't agree with FreedomEclipse's point... We are taking about at 10W difference with the 290X average usage... that's not even a light bulb's consumption... the difference is negligible... its not like 250W vs 400W....

On the other hand, as Wizz says, let's see what will happen with the retail cards. On AMD's side things look terrible according to some reviews with retail models being 10+% slower than review samples... (due to throttling from heat and driver changes)

W1zz already benched a retail card, Powercolor 290x OC
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/R9_290X_OC/
 
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No concrete date for either. The vendors probably don't know themselves.

well I think the vendors (AIB partners)would know, and are probably making them now. It takes a while to design and manufacture non- reference cards or any new cards. If they are expected before Christmas, they must be making them now.

Same with the 780Ti, they are available in stores and in stock now, just days after AMDs 290X release. Those cards must have started design and manufacture months ago. Just waiting for AMD's announcement.

Its obvious both companies know exactly what cards are coming and the performance that can be expected loooong before the public or media know about it. That's makes sense if both chips are made at the same factory.

SO while Nvidia were spruiking Titan as a killer $1,000 card, they already working on the 780Ti and knew in just a few months, consumers will have a much faster and much cheaper card in the 780Ti. Waiting patiently for the AMD 290x announcement then BAAM, heres a 780Ti.

If anyone thinks Nvidia/AMD only find out about the competition's cards when they are publically released, it just doesn't work that way.

We need an insider in Taiwan, I don't know how they keep this information secret for so long.
 

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well I think the vendors (AIB partners)would know, and are probably making them now.

Last I checked with one of the biggest AIBs the answer was "the only thing we know is that we don't know". That's for custom AMD cards. plans for custom NVIDIA cards are progressing as planned

Regarding EVGA Classified, I haven't asked. Still haven't found time to review the 780 Non-Ti Classified that they offered
 

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Last I checked with one of the biggest AIBs the answer was "the only thing we know is that we don't know". That's for custom AMD cards. plans for custom NVIDIA cards are progressing as planned

Regarding EVGA Classified, I haven't asked. Still haven't found time to review the 780 Non-Ti Classified that they offered

They must be good at keeping secrets, or maybe the PR guys don't know whats going on in the factories which is probably more likely.

We know AMD and Nvidia come down hard on any leaks, I guess its working....


Doesn't count, it's a stock cooler. :laugh:

Hes talking about a RETAIL card, not a non-reference card
 

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They must be good at keeping secrets, or maybe the PR guys don't know whats going on in the factories which is probably more likely.

We know AMD and Nvidia come down hard on any leaks, I guess its working....

They tell me what's going on with their NVIDIA lineup in December and exactly what changes they are making to the card designs, when they ship, and then they tell me "no idea" when talking about AMD. Your theory seems flawed :)

Everybody knows I'm not leaking, so they are comfortable talking about stuff. oh boy TPU news would be different, you'd be the first to know :p
 

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They tell me what's going on with their NVIDIA lineup in December and exactly what changes they are making to the card designs, when they ship, and then they tell me "no idea" when talking about AMD. Your theory seems flawed :)

Everybody knows I'm not leaking, so they are comfortable talking about stuff. oh boy TPU news would be different, you'd be the first to know :p

I dunno man, the years of drugs and hookers must have taken their toll. You sure you're not at least dribbling a bit?
 
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Poor AMD fanboys.

They had their hopes set so high that aftermarket coolers would save the poor R9 290X.

Then EVGA comes out with this best GTX 780 Ti and just destroys the R9 290X.

No aftermarket cooler could ever make the R9 290X as good as this card.

It is extremely sad that AMD can't make cards to compete with nVidia.

At this point nVidia is just re-using their year old technology and AMD still can't catch up.
 
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No aftermarket cooler could ever make the R9 290X as good as this card.

I don't know, maybe the time has come for quad slot coolers :laugh: crossfired 290X's on air are more or less out of the question anyway

Evga made a great card - it's 35 dB at load and overclockable for almost 10 % more performance on top of the out-of-the-box OC. It doesn't say how much the fan ramps up while overclocked though, and it would be nice to know.
 
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