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The reported failure rate is something like 0.4%, which is pretty forgettable, and all the failures are covered under warranty so these people will get replacements soon enough anyway.
 
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Amazon reviews are at like 1/3 DOA or failures. Many of the 1 star reviews are verified purchases too. This is becoming a very interesting launch.
 
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Amazon reviews are at like 1/3 DOA or failures. Many of the 1 star reviews are verified purchases too. This is becoming a very interesting launch.

I don't know if you've ever seen before what the internet will do just to make things look bad, places like 4chan/reddit will blow things up vastly out of proportion. PS4 supposedly at least broke day one console sales records, and Sony has already announced that out of total units sent out they've had an incredibly small amount of failures. From the numbers I've heard, they've had a better percentage than most hardware launches.

Also keep in mind, happy customers tend to be the vast majority that never say anything, where as someone that's disgruntled over an expensive purchase is going to blow up several forums about it until they get their attention fed enough to feel better. That is the internet now a days.
 

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Amazon reviews are at like 1/3 DOA or failures. Many of the 1 star reviews are verified purchases too. This is becoming a very interesting launch.

Yeah, but at this point the only people writing reviews are likely people with dead consoles because they've got nothing better to do. People with working consoles are playing them, not going back to Amazon to write reviews.
 

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Well good thing Im and not getting once till Destiny releases next Summer. Issues should be ironed out well enough by than.

Seriously though employees at Foxconn should do this more often with everything they make. Let Foxconn crash, and then get rebuilt into a more respectable company, and it may even change some of the ways employment and working happens in China.
 
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Well good thing Im and not getting once till Destiny releases next Summer. Issues should be ironed out well enough by than.

Same here. I'm thinking of grabbing one with my tax return around April, that way there's time for a few more games to come out and Destiny will be close. As it stands the only games I'm interested in are Destiny, Titanfall, and Project Spark. The latter two are XboxOne\Windows exclusives, and I plan on getting them for PC, so I'll save $100 and get a PS4 for Destiny. Knack also seems kind of interesting.
 
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I think the 0.4% is the pre-release estimate, now I'd guess the figure is anywhere from 1-3% which I have no idea how that compares to other launches.
 

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I think the 0.4% is the pre-release estimate, now I'd guess the figure is anywhere from 1-3% which I have no idea how that compares to other launches.

Quite well, seeing as the Xbox 360 launch was up near 50% failure rate IIRC, and PS3 was like 9% or something like that. Nintendo Wii was VERY LOW.
 
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I would take those claims with a grain of salt, even it they were true, a bunch of workers in an assembly line cannot make a big statistical difference when hundreds of thousands of systems are being built and tested before being shipped for sale.

Also, I wouldn't give Amazon reviews much statistical value either, people who don't have issues with their products rarely ever post a review, my PS4 is working fine and I didn't waste my time posting a review for it, whereas consumers who get defective products vent their anger with negative reviews 90% of the time, such is human nature.

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Quite well, seeing as the Xbox 360 launch was up near 50% failure rate IIRC, and PS3 was like 9% or something like that. Nintendo Wii was VERY LOW.

I bet over time most original systems failed, I had two 360s that died, one of them not even a year after purchase, and my fatty PS3 also gave the ghost after a few years, both the RROD and the YLOD killed a humongous percentage of all 360 and PS3 systems sold in the first year, too bad we'll never have an official number.

As for the Wii, you're probably right, I didn't hear of many cases where the system died, then again, most of them were collecting dust a year after people got them :p
 
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My wii still works but I haven't played it in over 2 years.

My hubby played it last year
 

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I would take those claims with a grain of salt, even it they were true, a bunch of workers in an assembly line cannot make a big statistical difference when hundreds of thousands of systems are being built and tested before being shipped for sale.

Also, I wouldn't give Amazon reviews much statistical value either, people who don't have issues with their products rarely ever post a review, my PS4 is working fine and I didn't waste my time posting a review for it, whereas consumers who get defective products vent their anger with negative reviews 90% of the time, such is human nature.

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I bet over time most original systems failed, I had two 360s that died, one of them not even a year after purchase, and my fatty PS3 also gave the ghost after a few years, both the RROD and the YLOD killed a humongous percentage of all 360 and PS3 systems sold in the first year, too bad we'll never have an official number.

As for the Wii, you're probably right, I didn't hear of many cases where the system died, then again, most of them were collecting dust a year after people got them :p

Yep, I had 3. One of the 20Gb White Pros, which was a Zephyr revision with the improved GPU cooling. That one had a failed drive, which I fixed then sold. Bought an Elite after that, and it was a Falcon revision. Got the E74 failure code, sent it back and got fixed unit back. Sold that one like a year later (2012) and then got a 250GB Slim right after that, and still have the 250GB Slim.
 
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My lil brother went thru 8 Xbox 360s.
 
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I bought 360 at launch, . . . failed after 6 months, ms replaced it, that one failed in like a year, then did not have a 360 a while then got a jasper model, failed, then got a slim, which is semi failed(artifacts)

bought a launch ps3, failed after 4 years I think, then I got my current slim which has run nicely so far

bought a wii but never play it much, so its still good(cause I never play it)

It sad that they did that to those consoles, I mean they are making sony look bad but at the end of the day they will be looked at as the bad guys here.(even though they get treated like dirt anyway)
 
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My wii still works but I haven't played it in over 2 years.

My hubby played it last year

Yep, I had 3. One of the 20Gb White Pros, which was a Zephyr revision with the improved GPU cooling. That one had a failed drive, which I fixed then sold. Bought an Elite after that, and it was a Falcon revision. Got the E74 failure code, sent it back and got fixed unit back. Sold that one like a year later (2012) and then got a 250GB Slim right after that, and still have the 250GB Slim.

My lil brother went thru 8 Xbox 360s.

I bought 360 at launch, . . . failed after 6 months, ms replaced it, that one failed in like a year, then did not have a 360 a while then got a jasper model, failed, then got a slim, which is semi failed(artifacts)

bought a launch ps3, failed after 4 years I think, then I got my current slim which has run nicely so far

bought a wii but never play it much, so its still good(cause I never play it)

See, I was right on most accounts :p

Unfortunately both Sony and MS are guilty of selling sub par hardware at the beginning of last generation, Nintendo had the blessing of releasing what basically was a GameCube ver. 2.0, but that turned into a curse as the years went by and most AAA games just skipped it, and most gamers just abandoned their systems...

They made the same mistake with the Wii U (GameCube ver. 3.0) mine is collecting dust now due to the lack of good games so chances are it will outlast my first gen PS4 and Xbone :p

As consoles grow more complex, the chance for hardware failure grows exponentially, I'm surprised the PS4 is so tiny and it even includes its PSU in its case! I hope Sony planned ahead this time... MS seems to have learned their lesson this gen though by making the Xbone huge and fitting the PSU in a power brick to reduce internal heat (although that didn't help first gen 360 systems I the least) I guess we'll find out soon.

Returning to the topic at hand this rumor seems to already be spreading like wildfire, we should expect an official response from Sony soon if there's any truth to it...
 
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Nintendo always has reliable hardware--that's what happens when you stay 5+ years behind the technological curve and underclock and undervlot your GPU/CPU. The Xbox 360 had over a 50% failure rate, it was pretty bad, but later revisions were infinitely more reliable. The PS3 launch models I think had like a 10-20% failure rate, but later revisions chopped that down to almost nothing. Microsoft has made sure not to make the same mistakes (no cheap solder, good fans, lots of ventilation).
 
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3 of my friends bought 360 first and second revisions, all of them died. My fat PS3 died, i Have 7 friends who bought fat PS3, 5 of them are already dead. I'm not buying a console at launch again, maybe after 2 years. And to be honest i don't trust the PS4 heatsink at all.
 
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Quite well, seeing as the Xbox 360 launch was up near 50% failure rate IIRC, and PS3 was like 9% or something like that. Nintendo Wii was VERY LOW.

Those 360/PS3 numbers cover years. We're discussing doa failure rate. We have no way to know how these early PS4s will hold up in a few years.
 

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You can blame the US Government for the early console failures due to soldering. MS and Sony were forced to use lead free soldering which early versions of that crap sucked.
 

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You can blame the US Government for the early console failures due to soldering. MS and Sony were forced to use lead free soldering which early versions of that crap sucked.

And I blame YOU for putting them in charge. :slap:

Yes, ONLY you.

EDIT: On a serious note, we'll see in the coming months how this pans out.
 
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EDIT: On a serious note, we'll see in the coming months how this pans out.

You mean when there is actually a game to play on the console that just came out with literally 2 games nobody cares about? Yeah, probably.
 
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console that just came out with literally 2 games nobody cares about

You mean upscaled ac4 black flag that runs @30fps and that other game nobody cares about? Oh, my bad, ac4 is native 1080p now but it dips below 30fps ... so right, 2 games nobody cares about.
 

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Thanks Euro rules.... :slap:

Not a US/Euro mention.... It always turns in to a very poorly understood political shite fest. Anyway - the US doesn't exist, it's exactly like 'Europe' - a loose amalgamation of countries or states with very little in common, that usually hate each other but are bonded by one thing - an economy, that invariably doesn't work.

Let's all move to Mars.

EDIT: this post should be taken in jest.
 
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