UPDATE: Which Linux flavor are you currently running?

librin.so.1 · Feb 22, 2014

silentbogo said:
But this just makes it so windows-like:
1) Install clean system
2) Install drivers
3) Install codecs
4) Install software

If I am not mistaken, unless You've got some wireless hardware, You can basically skip the #2 most of the time, as the drivers are already in the kernel. Not counting video drivers, though, as those are often a flaky matter whether You'd use a "full" or a "minimalistic" install, anyways.
Also, assuming You know what You want && need, steps 3 && 4 can be done with a single invocation of apt-get install [list of what You need].

So, I'd say You are greatly exaggerating.

silentbogo · Feb 22, 2014

Guys, you are completely missing my point: I am not talking about the difference between windows and Linux or Debian and Ubuntu; I am talking about the difference between Linux then and Linux now. I guess just don't pay attention to the old senile guy.

Devon68 · Feb 22, 2014

Well I currently use Windows 7 (no plans to go to win8 any time soon)
Used Fedora 6 at school
Used Ubuntu and Mint at home
From the ones I used mint is my favorite.

Peter1986C · Feb 22, 2014

silentbogo said:
Guys, you are completely missing my point: I am not talking about the difference between windows and Linux or Debian and Ubuntu; I am talking about the difference between Linux then and Linux now. I guess just don't pay attention to the old senile guy.

I got your point from the beginning.

silentbogo · Feb 22, 2014

BTW, thanks to Aquinus' persuasive arguments I've decided to give Ubuntu another shot. Because Gnome sucks KUbuntu 14.04 was a distro of choice.
So far everything is smooth and cool. Besides OpenSuse it was the only distribution that didn't cause any efi-related problems (with debian 7.40 and Mint I had to boot "by hand", re-install and reconfigure grub-efi to make everything work properly).
I guess this is my new favorite.

Durvelle27 · Feb 22, 2014

Ubuntu for me

librin.so.1 · Feb 22, 2014

silentbogo said:
Guys, you are completely missing my point: I am not talking about the difference between windows and Linux or Debian and Ubuntu; I am talking about the difference between Linux then and Linux now. I guess just don't pay attention to the old senile guy.

I know. But You seemed to be missing my point.
Which was: You are exaggerating on the effort required to set up such a system. And this fact that You are exaggerating still applies no matter whether we talk about difference ~~between some system ~~or not.~~~~

FX-GMC · Feb 23, 2014

Vinska said:
I know. But You seemed to be missing my point.
Which was: You are exaggerating on the effort required to set up such a system. And this fact that You are exaggerating still applies no matter whether we talk about difference ~~between some system ~~or not.~~~~

I installed Ubuntu ~6 months ago and had to fiddle with getting it to boot (was on a separate hard drive) and had to screw around to get my graphics card working (GTX650 Ti Boost).
That being said, in the past i have installed it without any issues.

I agree as a whole it has probably gotten better, but it is still a long way from being as simple as installing Windows.

arskatb · Mar 14, 2014

TheBrainyOne · Mar 30, 2014

Android 4.2.2 on my Xperia L.

redeye · Mar 30, 2014

Linux 3.8.0-37-generic #53~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 19 21:37:54 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
or mythbuntu 12.04.3

but i will be upgrading to trusty tahr (14.04) when mythbuntu offers an iso... (alot easier to install mythtv from the iso... not impossible, but having mysql and such pre-set up, makes for less headaches.)

frontend MythTV Version : v0.27-196-g3ca3f6d
backend MythTV Version : v0.27-196-g3ca3f6d

redeye · Mar 30, 2014

FX-GMC said:
I installed Ubuntu ~6 months ago and had to fiddle with getting it to boot (was on a separate hard drive) and had to screw around to get my graphics card working (GTX650 Ti Boost).
That being said, in the past i have installed it without any issues.

I agree as a whole it has probably gotten better, but it is still a long way from being as simple as installing Windows.

well to install nvidia drivers...
download NVIDIA linux drivers... (to default chromium location ~/Downloads)

ctrl-alt-f1... get to tty1
cd Downloads
sudo chmod 775 NVIDIA(press tab to complete file name)
sudo service lightdm stop
sudo ./NVIDIA(press tab to complete file name)
... will run and install NVIDIA driver... if NVIDIA needs blacklist the stock driver, repeat from the start...

this is alot easier that installing AMD drivers... (if you are using the proprietary AMD drivers)

for windows you must remember when installing the nvidia drivers to select clean install...(custom install)

phanbuey · Mar 30, 2014

BSD all the way

Aquinus · Mar 30, 2014

redeye said:
this is alot easier that installing AMD drivers... (if you are using the proprietary AMD drivers)

I don't know about you, but my experience on Debian and Ubuntu is that you can install fglrx inside X if X will load up or from the command line. In the last year I feel that it has been a lot easier to choose weather or not you want to use the package maintained by the distro or if you want to you drivers directly from AMD. Even removing one package and switching to another hasn't been all that bad. Not to say that they're perfect, but I've had to do a lot less work to get multi-monitor working and getting the drivers installed right with an AMD card over a nVidia card. Where my only real complaint is that I can't have multiple monitors enabled and have crossfire enabled at the same time with fglrx, but granted when I'm in Linux I'm usually working or developing, so that's not of the utmost importance since I don't do much with GPUs in the kind of development work I do.

Either way, that same process you described for installing nVidia's drivers is practically the same with fglrx. Just saying.

silentbogo said:
BTW, thanks to Aquinus' persuasive arguments I've decided to give Ubuntu another shot. Because Gnome sucks KUbuntu 14.04 was a distro of choice.
So far everything is smooth and cool. Besides OpenSuse it was the only distribution that didn't cause any efi-related problems (with debian 7.40 and Mint I had to boot "by hand", re-install and reconfigure grub-efi to make everything work properly).
I guess this is my new favorite.

You know, you shouldn't judge a distro by the default window manager that it comes with. Personally I've been tolerant of Gnome, but usually when I'm in linux, minimalism is best so I'll have something like i3 as well. The joy of Linux is that you can choose what window manager you want to use, despite what distro you're using.

I do think that there are a lot of scales for judging a distro good or bad and it definitely depends on what you're going to be using it for and what your preferences are, but almost any distro can be made to be like another (albeit, not completely the same if you compare disparate distros like debian and gentoo).

Either way, I personally think that Ubuntu makes for a good desktop distro and Debian makes for a good server distro and between the two, they're practically the same thing, just with different things out of the box and different goals in mind.

Liquid Cool · Apr 19, 2014

Ubuntu 14.04 + Gnome. It's my new favorite...

Our house is Windows free.

Best,

Liquid Cool

NationsAnarchy · May 5, 2014

I did make some efforts dual booting Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 13.10/14.04 LTS, but since I didn't "reformat" my HDD from GPT back to MBR correctly, I can't get Ubuntu installer to recognize my HDD. A bit sad

Aquinus · May 5, 2014

NationsAnarchy said:
I did make some efforts dual booting Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 13.10/14.04 LTS, but since I didn't "reformat" my HDD from GPT back to MBR correctly, I can't get Ubuntu installer to recognize my HDD. A bit sad

I was fighting with this for a little while and just decided to use Debian and fallback Gnome with VMWare Workstation's Unity and it gives me what I need from linux (a decent terminal). I just recently went with the GPT/UEFI boot option when I re-installed Windows. This way the VM can sit on my RAID and I can have some of my SSD's space back.

Switch back and forth for me was getting annoying and all I really wanted was a decent terminal. I do most of what I do on servers, not locally.

NationsAnarchy · May 5, 2014

Aquinus said:
I was fighting with this for a little while and just decided to use Debian and fallback Gnome with VMWare Workstation's Unity and it gives me what I need from linux (a decent terminal). I just recently went with the GPT/UEFI boot option when I re-installed Windows. This way the VM can sit on my RAID and I can have some of my SSD's space back.

Bloody well done right there, my friend. :toast:

Still if I can get an SSD or a new HDD for my laptop, I'll definitely do a dual boot for sure :banghead:

blobster21 · May 5, 2014

NationsAnarchy said:
I did make some efforts dual booting Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 13.10/14.04 LTS, but since I didn't "reformat" my HDD from GPT back to MBR correctly, I can't get Ubuntu installer to recognize my HDD. A bit sad

It's possible to reverse from gpt to mbr without reinstalling Windows 8.1 :

I finally managed to convert GPT to MBR. It was very simple.
1. I disabled EFI boot in BIOS.
2. Converted GPT to MBR with Paragon HD Manager Prof. IMHO this step can be done with BIBM or maybe Diskpart command or from within Windows Disk Management if somehow to boot with disabled EFI.

That's all.

and further down the same thread :

The only new trick was first to disable EFI boot in the BIOS. Then just GPT to MBR conversion. And voila! The windows booted without any other operations.

Only these two steps. Windows in disk C and all data in disk D stay intact.

NationsAnarchy · May 5, 2014

Wished I knew that just a bit sooner. Oh god ...

R-T-B · May 13, 2014

Gentoo.

If your mind can conquer it, it's much like building your own distro. There is no real limit to what you can do.

bpgt64 · May 17, 2014

ubuntu 14.05

hellrazor · May 21, 2014

Debian ~~Wheezy~~ Jessie with MATE.

Naito · May 22, 2014

Linux Mint Debian Edition w/ Cinnamon

EDIT: Just realised I had already commented on this thread. Need more caffeine....

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Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
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Cooling	NZXT Kraken x72
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Mouse	Razer Naga Epic
Keyboard	Keychron Q1
Software	Funtoo Linux
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Processor	Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard	ASUS X570-PLUS TUF Gaming
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Case	ghetto CM Cosmos RC-1000
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Power Supply	SeaSonic SSR-550FX (80+ GOLD)
Mouse	Logitech G603
Keyboard	Modecom Volcano Blade (Kailh choc LP)
VR HMD	Google dreamview headset(aka fancy cardboard)
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System Name	Ryzen 2023
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Motherboard	Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
Memory	G Skill Flare X5 2x16gb cl32@6000 MHz
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Mouse	Logitech G500 \|Steelseries Rival 300
Keyboard	Qpad MK-50 (Cherry MX brown)\| Blaze Keyboard
Software	Windows 10, Various Linux distros \| Gentoo Linux

System Name	WS#1337
Processor	Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard	ASUS X570-PLUS TUF Gaming
Cooling	Xigmatek Scylla 240mm AIO
Memory	4x8GB Samsung DDR4 ECC UDIMM
Video Card(s)	Inno3D RTX 3070 Ti iChill
Storage	ADATA Legend 2TB + ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s)	Samsung U24E590D (4K/UHD)
Case	ghetto CM Cosmos RC-1000
Audio Device(s)	ALC1220
Power Supply	SeaSonic SSR-550FX (80+ GOLD)
Mouse	Logitech G603
Keyboard	Modecom Volcano Blade (Kailh choc LP)
VR HMD	Google dreamview headset(aka fancy cardboard)
Software	Windows 11, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

UPDATE: Which Linux flavor are you currently running?

Which flavor of ownage??

Mint

Ubuntu

Debian

Fedora

CentOS

OpenSUSE

Arch

RedHat

Other: Please specify

librin.so.1

silentbogo

Moderator

Devon68

Peter1986C

silentbogo

Moderator

Durvelle27

Moderator

librin.so.1

FX-GMC

arskatb

TheBrainyOne

redeye

redeye

phanbuey

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man

Liquid Cool

NationsAnarchy

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man

NationsAnarchy

blobster21

NationsAnarchy

R-T-B

bpgt64

hellrazor

Naito

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Processor	\|AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
Motherboard	ASRock B550M Pro4\|MSI X370 Gaming PLUS
Cooling	Thermalright PA120 SE \| AMD Stock Cooler
Memory	G.Skill 64GB(2x32GB) 3200MHz \| 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4
Video Card(s)	\|AMD R9 290
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Mouse	Logitech Trackman
Keyboard	Logitech K350
Software	Windows 10 EDU x64

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Cooling	Phanteks PH-TC14PE
Memory	2x4GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600 \| 8gb DDR3 @ 1600
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Storage	Crucial M500 480GB, WD Caviar Blue 500GB, WD Scorpio Blue 750GB \| Samsung 250GB 840
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Case	CoolerMaster HAF XB Evo
Power Supply	Seasonic G-650
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Motherboard	MSI Z87-G45 GAMING
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Storage	Samsung 840EVO / Samsung F1
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Case	Fractal Design Define R3
Audio Device(s)	integrated
Power Supply	Corsair HX 750 Gold
Software	Win7 x64 ultimate
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Memory	1 GB LPDDR2
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Storage	8 GB inbuilt + 32 GB microSD
Display(s)	4.3" 480*854 TN Display
Power Supply	1750 mAh Li-Ion Battery
Software	Android 4.2.2

System Name	YACS amd.
Processor	5800x, 5700g, i9-9900k
Motherboard	gigabyte x570 aorus gaming elite. or msi x570 gaming plus
Cooling	bykski GPU, CPU. syscooling p93x, or sc-67f in series, or aquacomputer cpu
Memory	corsair vengeance pro rgb, 3600 ddr4 16,16,16, 36, or gskill
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Storage	kingston kc3000 2TB, amongst others. Fanxiang s770 2TB
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Case	lian li LANCOOL III
Audio Device(s)	obs,
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti pro 1000w
Mouse	logitech g703
Keyboard	durogod keyboard. (cherry brown switches)
Software	win 11, win10pro.

Processor	13700KF Undervolted @ 5.6/ 5.5, 4.8Ghz Ring 200W PL1
Motherboard	MSI 690-I PRO
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 w/ Arctic P12 Fans
Memory	48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36
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Storage	2x 2TB WDC SN850, 1TB Samsung 960 prr
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Case	SLIGER S620
Audio Device(s)	Yes
Power Supply	Corsair SF750
Mouse	Xlite V2
Keyboard	RoyalAxe
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	They're pretty good, nothing crazy.

System Name	Apollo
Processor	Intel Core i9 9880H
Motherboard	Some proprietary Apple thing.
Memory	64GB DDR4-2667
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2
Storage	1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External
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Case	MacBook Pro (16", 2019)
Audio Device(s)	AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers
Power Supply	96w Power Adapter
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard	Logitech G915, GL Clicky
Software	MacOS 12.1

System Name	Graphics Card Free...
Processor	Ryzen 5 5600G
Motherboard	MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX Wifi
Cooling	Cryorig M9a w/ BeQuiet! PureWings 2 ~ 92mm
Memory	Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3200 ~ 16GB(2x8GB)
Storage	Samsung EVO 870 SSD - 1TB
Display(s)	AOC 24G2
Case	Cardboard...
Power Supply	eVGA SuperNova 550w G3
Mouse	Logitech t400 Zone Touch Mouse
Keyboard	IBM Model "M" Keyboard
Software	Manjaro ~ KDE Plasma
Benchmark Scores	She's a Runner!

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Processor	Core i3 3110M Dual Core 2.4 GHz Ivy Bridge
Motherboard	Intel HM77
Memory	4Gb DDR3 1333 MHz Dual Channel
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Storage	Kingston V300 120Gb SATA3 SSD
Display(s)	Asus VS239H 23-inch AH-IPS Monitor
Audio Device(s)	Realtek HD with Dolby™ Digital Plus
Mouse	Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable Gaming Mouse + Corsair MM400 Hard Plastic Gaming Mouse Mat
Keyboard	Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn Mechanical Gaming Keyboard \| Romer-G Switches by Omron and Logitech
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	Nah, nevermind me then xD

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 7950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64

System Name	My Rig
Processor	AMD 3950X
Motherboard	X570 TUFF GAMING PLUS
Cooling	EKWB Custom Loop, Lian Li 011 G1 distroplate/DDC 3.1 combo
Memory	4x16GB Corsair DDR4-3466
Video Card(s)	MSI Seahawk 2080 Ti EKWB block
Storage	2TB Auros NVMe Drive
Display(s)	Asus P27UQ
Case	Lian Li 011-Dynamic XL
Audio Device(s)	JBL 30X
Power Supply	Seasonic Titanium 1000W
Mouse	Razer Lancehead
Keyboard	Razer Widow Maker Keyboard
Software	Window's 10 Pro

System Name	Desktop \| Laptop
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D \| Intel Core i7 7700HQ
Motherboard	MAG X570S Torpedo Max\| Neptune KLS HM175
Cooling	Corsair H100x \| Twin fan, fin stack & heat pipes
Memory	32GB G.Skill F4-3600C16-8GVK @ 3600MHz / 16-16-16-36-1T \| 16GB DDR4 @ 2400MHz / 17-17-17-39-2T
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra \| GTX 1050 Ti 4GB
Storage	Kingston KC3000 1TB + Kingston KC3000 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 1TB \| 970 Evo 500GB
Display(s)	32" Dell G3223Q (2160p @ 144Hz) \| 17" IPS 1920x1080P
Case	Fractal Meshify 2 Compact \| Aspire V Nitro BE
Audio Device(s)	ifi Audio ZEN DAC V2 + Focal Radiance / HyperX Solocast
Power Supply	Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 1000W \| 150W
Mouse	Razer Viper Ultimate \| Logitech MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman V2 Optical (Linear Red)
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64

System Name	Eldritch
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 5800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS TUF X570 Pro Wifi
Cooling	Satan's butthole after going to Taco Bell
Memory	64 GB G.Skill TridentZ
Video Card(s)	Vega 56
Storage	68TB Western Digital Blues in RAID 6, 2512 GB Samsung 960 Pros
Display(s)	Acer CB281HK
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro PH-ES614P_BK
Audio Device(s)	ASUS Xonar DX
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 750 G2
Mouse	Razer Viper 8K
Software	Debian Bullseye