Buying or Upgrading??

[2TwOs]

That's a lot of hardware for P18,000.
Go for the i3.
Go for the Fortress Venus ATX 700W PSU.
Think about the G-card later.

Can i still use my Nvidia GT 430 1GB??

 

[Devon68]

How about this:
CPU: AMD A8-5600K ₱4,450.00
MOBO: MSI FM2+ A78-g41 PC MATE ₱3,200.00
MEM: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB 1600MHz ₱2,050.00
Western Digital 500GB Blue ₱2,400.00
Powercolor HD 7730 1GB DDR5 ₱3,300.00
Case: Aerocool V3X Blue ₱1,350.00
PSU: Thermaltake Litepower 500 W Black ₱1,750.00
------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL: ₱18.500.00

unless you need a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
if you need those things too you will have to wait a bit and expand your budget.

Yes you can still use your GT 430 in your new mobo.

or if going the intel i3 route try these:
CPU: intel core i3-3240 ₱5,250.00
MOBO: ASUS H61M-C ₱2,500.00
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TOTAL: ₱18,600.00

 

[2TwOs]

This is a better option.
The box will help with any temp issues.

What do you mean by that???

 

[Ja.KooLit]

How about this:
CPU: AMD A8-5600K ₱4,450.00
MOBO: MSI FM2+ A78-g41 PC MATE ₱3,200.00
MEM: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB 1600MHz ₱2,050.00
Western Digital 500GB Blue ₱2,400.00
Powercolor HD 7730 1GB DDR5 ₱3,300.00
Case: Aerocool V3X Blue ₱1,350.00
PSU: Thermaltake Litepower 500 W Black ₱1,750.00
------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL: ₱18.500.00

unless you need a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
if you need those things too you will have to wait a bit and expand your budget.

Yes you can still use your GT 430 in your new mobo.

or if going the intel i3 route try these:
CPU: intel core i3-3240 ₱5,250.00
MOBO: ASUS H61M-C ₱2,500.00
------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL: ₱18,600.00

you save me from typing. i was just making list based from the price list and there you. 2twos, surigao is not that warm isnt it? but if im in your situation, ill get 13-3240.

 

[Dent1]

No..
AMD FX6100 3.3Ghz this i can afford..

FX 6100 is the best option.

 

[rhino]

FX 6100 is the best option.

The thing is, these FM2 (AMD A8-5600K) chips are built for graphic performance on a budget.
The AM3+ (FX6100) chips are not so you'll need to go for a big fat G-card to go with it which will probably run over budget.

What do you mean by that???

Oh you mean "box will help with temp issues"?
Well room temp has a direct influence on the Mobo and CPU temps.
However, though the AMD chips may run a little warmer than Intel, in your case it won't make any difference.
So the point is: you need a good airflow and CPU cooler to make sure you don't overheat your system.
The Aerocool V3X Blue has plenty of fans in it to keep the airflow moving nicely and the CPU cooler which comes with the AMD A8-5600K should do the job though might be a bit loud.
It won't be enough for the FX6100 so you'd surely have to buy another one to replace it.

 

[RCoon]

Just had a look around, it appears that AMD are only distributing the most basic of CPU coolers with all their CPUs.
When they started with their latest lines of CPUs they were putting in some relatively competent cooling solutions though it seems that was just a phase and now only the most basic cooler is available.
It will do the job though it is a bit loud.

Bro, there is an edit function at the bottom right of your post so you don't have to triple-quadra m-m-m-m-MONSTER post all the time

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Motherboard: Redfox RF-A55F1M4 or A55F2M3 For a AMD FX41003.6Ghz??? Is it Ok?

No. Chip is AM3. motherboard has FM2.

Why do you need keyboard, mouse, speakers, and monitor also? What is wrong with the stuff you currently have on your current system? If you really do need all that. Wait till you can increase your budget. Trying to run Total War on such low end systems is going to be awful, especially if you are trying to keep your current GPU.

 

[2TwOs]

you save me from typing. i was just making list based from the price list and there you. 2twos, surigao is not that warm isnt it? but if im in your situation, ill get 13-3240.

How about Intel Core i3 3210 w/mobo of Asus H61M-E??
Its starting to get hotter in here nxt week is the beginning of Summer Season in Phil.
Do Intel processor needs a cool room??

AMD A8-5600k,AMD FX4100 or FX6100 for
Mobo-Asus F1A55-M,is it compatible??

 

[Devon68]

AMD A8-5600k,AMD FX4100 or FX6100 for
Mobo-Asus F1A55-M,is it compatible??

It's simple you just have to check which cpu has the same socket as the mobo you want:
The AMD A8-5600k is a FM2 socket CPU and can be used on a FM2 or FM2+ socket motherboard
The AMD FX4100 or FX6100 is a AM3+ socket CPU and can be only used on a AM3+ socket motherboard (not on the AM3 just AM3+)
and the board you mentioned ''Mobo-Asus F1A55-M'' is a FM1 socket motherboard so only an FM1 socket CPU can be placed on it.

 

[rhino]

And get the CPU with the highest number that you can afford.
i.e.:
A8-6600 is better than A8-6500 - Most of the mainboards for these chips begin with either F2 or FM2
FX6300 is better than FX6100 - Look for mainboards which have AMD 990 somewhere in the title.
etc
You should be drawing towards committing yourself to one of these options around now.

 

[2TwOs]

If i choose AMD Pros can it be Ok with only a electric fan Room with a casing of
Trendsonic Ray Micro ATX casing?? or it has to be in a Air Conditioned room??

 

[rhino]

It's an airflow thing.
The case you mentioned doesn't seem to have front fans.
See if you can find one with at least one, preferably two, fans at the front and the same at the back and if possible at the side.
Have a look at a Cooler Master HAF 922 to help you get the idea (or just buy one).

 

[2TwOs]

In this price list can you choose a casing and mobo that will fit a AMD FX4100 3.6 Ghz.

I only have Two option:
Intel core i3 3210 or FX4100.
I will buy on Sunday.

 

[Devon68]

I only have Two option:
Intel core i3 3210 or FX4100.
I will buy on Sunday.

Why FX-4100?
When i3 3210 is ₱4700
AMD FX-6100 is ₱4650

My FX-6100 with the stock cooler is 27 degrees Celsius with room temp 20 (this is in idle)
while playing left 4 dead 2 it goes up to 51-52 degrees Celsius
in the summer when the room temp is about 30-32 with the stock cooler it sometimes gets close 65-68 and the safe limit for the FX chips is 70 degrees Celsius but with even a cooler master hyper 212 it probably woulden't go even near 60.

 

[rhino]

In this price list can you choose a casing and mobo that will fit a AMD FX4100 3.6 Ghz.

I only have Two option:
Intel core i3 3210 or FX4100.
I will buy on Sunday.

In that case I believe i3 is the way to go.
So a board to go with it, in my opinion, would be: Asus P8Z77-V LK
If you want to bung in extra G-cards later there's plenty of space for both Nvidia & AMD and it has all the latest nik-naks. (USB3, 6gb SATA and a onboard graphic if you want to wait before you buy a G-card).

That's what I think.

NB: Yes, would be much better if you could get the FX6100 with the MSI 990FXA-GD80.

Seeing as he hasn't answered yet, I just had a look at "Can You Run It?" and, roughly estimated, you could run Total War: Rome 16 times at once with the FX6100.

 

[2TwOs]

Why FX-4100?
When i3 3210 is ₱4700
AMD FX-6100 is ₱4650

My FX-6100 with the stock cooler is 27 degrees Celsius with room temp 20 (this is in idle)
while playing left 4 dead 2 it goes up to 51-52 degrees Celsius
in the summer when the room temp is about 30-32 with the stock cooler it sometimes gets close 65-68 and the safe limit for the FX chips is 70 degrees Celsius but with even a cooler master hyper 212 it probably woulden't go even near 60.

Sir do you play Total War series,mostly Rome2?? How it goes with your FX-6100??

 

[Vario]

Core i3 is what you should get, 2 cores and hyperthreading, no brainer.

In that case I believe i3 is the way to go.
So a board to go with it, in my opinion, would be: Asus P8Z77-V LK
If you want to bung in extra G-cards later there's plenty of space for both Nvidia & AMD and it has all the latest nik-naks. (USB3, 6gb SATA and a onboard graphic if you want to wait before you buy a G-card).

That's what I think.

NB: Yes, would be much better if you could get the FX6100 with the MSI 990FXA-GD80.

Seeing as he hasn't answered yet, I just had a look at "Can You Run It?" and, roughly estimated, you could run Total War: Rome 16 times at once with the FX6100.

Don't get a z77 board, too expensive, try a h61 or b75

 

[Devon68]

Total War series

Haven't played Total War series yet.

 

[rhino]

I hope you've got a copy of W7 or W8 ready to go with it.

Haven't played Total War series yet.

It's almost 8bit.

Is the AMD Athlon 750k an option?

Yo Homes, we've almost got 2TwOs settled. What are going off about an Athlon for if you think an i3 is a no-brainer?

Total War games run awful on AMD CPUs. I think its due to the single thread performance thats lack luster on those chips, and Total War is a single threaded game unfortunately.

Wait up, this game only needs a Pentium 3. Do you mean the FX technology is too advanced for Total War?

 

[Vario]

Is the AMD Athlon 750k an option?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Sir do you play Total War series,mostly Rome2?? How it goes with your FX-6100??

Total War games run awful on AMD CPUs. I think its due to the single thread performance thats lack luster on those chips, and Total War is a single threaded game unfortunately. @crazyeyesreaper knows the specifics.

So, as you can tell, Devon68 and myself are AMD fans.
Now an Intel fan has spoken and you're ready to go.
Of the Intel boards he recommends my choice would be the MSI B75MA-G43.
I chose the other one earlier because I like ASUS boards and I'm used to them.
However MSI is equally highly rated if not more and, by the way, you're gonna be one happy chappy when you stick this together judging by what you've said so far.
I hope you've got a copy of W7 or W8 ready to go with it.
It's almost 8bit.
Yo Homes, we've almost got 2TwOs settled. What are going off about an Athlon for if you think an i3 is a no-brainer?
Wait up, this game only needs a Pentium 3. Do you mean the FX technology is too advanced for Total War?

Have you ever actually played a Single Total War Game?

Like I said, in most cases, AMD CPUs get beat pretty bad by Intel offers in games that a single threaded, due to the lack luster single core performance of AMD CPUs. Skyrim and Total War are the two games that come to mind where Intel is the CPU to get if you primarily play those games. You can kind of counter bad single core performance with overclocking, but then comes a decent motherboard, cooling, and actual knowledge of overclocking.

Honestly if it were me, with this kind of budget, Id get the A8 5800k a decent FM2 board, and just clock the dog snot out of the chip.

Is the AMD Athlon 750k an option?

Do you see that in the list of parts he posted that he can chose from. I sure don't

Benchmarks to kind of prove what I have been saying

 

[Dent1]

Total War games run awful on AMD CPUs. I think its due to the single thread performance thats lack luster on those chips, and Total War is a single threaded game unfortunately. @crazyeyesreaper knows the specifics.

Have you ever actually played a Single Total War Game?

Like I said, in most cases, AMD CPUs get beat pretty bad by Intel offers in games that a single threaded, due to the lack luster single core performance of AMD CPUs. Skyrim and Total War are the two games that come to mind where Intel is the CPU to get if you primarily play those games. You can kind of counter bad single core performance with overclocking, but then comes a decent motherboard, cooling, and actual knowledge of overclocking.

Rome runs awful period.

I haven't seen too many Rome reviews with a selection of processors, but when looking at other games I find the FX 6xxx series performs as well as the i3. I don't think the single threaded argument works in that scenario.

Honestly if it were me, with this kind of budget, Id get the A8 5800k a decent FM2 board, and just clock the dog snot out of the chip.

Do you see that in the list of parts he posted that he can chose from. I sure don't

The FX 6100, it would overclock further.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Rome runs awful period.



The FX 6100, it would overclock further.

Debatable, I wouldn't recommend any FX x1xx chips at this point. If he had the FX6300 available then sure.

 

[Dent1]

Debatable, I wouldn't recommend any FX x1xx chips at this point. If he had the FX6300 available then sure.

The FX 6100 definitely overclocks further than the A8 5800k.

The Bulldozer to Piledriver is just a refresh. The performance gap is often small.

Even in the charts you posted above it takes a i7 3970x @ 4.9GHz to get 61 FPS. This alone tell us Rome runs awfully period.


We shouldn't get too focused on Rome. The OP is playing other games too like Hitman Absolution and etc.