AMD Kabini Athlon 5150 1.6 GHz - something for enthusiast

[Tatty_Two]

Would we see much of a performance hit if using a discreet GPU seeing as the PCI-E is only operating at x4 or have I read that wrong?

 

[newtekie1]

Would we see much of a performance hit if using a discreet GPU seeing as the PCI-E is only operating at x4 or have I read that wrong?

Correct, the PCI-E x16 slot is only electricly x4. It wouldn't affect performance on anything but high end cards, and no one in their right mind would pair a high end card with AM1.

 

[Vario]

A good value only for the onboard video, IMO.

Might be able to play circa 2005 games.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Correct, the PCI-E x16 slot is only electricly x4. It wouldn't affect performance on anything but high end cards, and no one in their right mind would pair a high end card with AM1.

Unfortunatly we have some of those!

 

[john_]

A platform like that shouldn't be paired with anything because in that case it is losing the low cost advantage.
If, for example, you add any kind of graphics card you could go for an equivalent Intel solution in the first place.

 

[insane 360]

at the price point of under/around 100 bucks for motherboard and cpu, i'm concidering this to replace my old HP all-in-one (core2duo and intel gma) as my secondary pc and maybe a another am1 pc for HTPC duty once my xbox live membership runs its course.

just added benefit if i can overclock it for the fun of it all

looking forward to more on this! maybe a TPU review soon?

 

[FlanK3r]

Next stage:
http://valid.canardpc.com/14xnw5

PS: i tried Quake III arena at 1600x1200 with maximum details. Timedemo 1. At default settings its around 155 FPS, after OC 206 FPS!

 

[john_]

At Phoronix they weren't so lucky.
[Phoronix] Overclocking The AMD AM1 Athlon & Sempron APUs
105 MHz max bus speed before becoming unstable.
Maybe you where lucky or they are doing something wrong.

 

[newtekie1]

A platform like that shouldn't be paired with anything because in that case it is losing the low cost advantage.
If, for example, you add any kind of graphics card you could go for an equivalent Intel solution in the first place.

That is true, I'd use the PCI-E slot for a RAID controller, I don't think it was really intended to be used for graphics cards.

 

[Aquinus]

It's worth noting that this puppy uses Jaguar cores. I wonder how the shorter pipeline (versus FX-based CPUs) impacts cache performance and performance per clock. While I like what AMD was trying to do with the whole "modules" setup, I think I would rather have a CPU with a shorter pipeline and Intel has shown that tends to work out well for things like branch prediction and it didn't when it was longer like with NetBurst. All in all, I almost want to invest in one of these just to play with it. It's uses are a little short because of the lack of sata ports and expandability but given the price, I can't really complain too loudly.

 

[Dent1]

Is there any clock for clock reviews of the Kabini against the Steamroller FX?

 

[Aquinus]

Is there any clock for clock reviews of the Kabini against the Steamroller FX?

Were you looking for something like this?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7933/the-desktop-kabini-review-part-1-athlon-5350-am1/4

 

[john_]

FlanK3r

Are you using IDE mode for the disks or AHCI? Someone said in another forum that Phoronix probably hit the wall at 105MHz because of AHCI and SATA limitations that are also present in FM2+ platform(are they?).

 

[FlanK3r]

AHCI...This was next reason for shock me...But no SSD, classic HDD

Yes, with A88x chipset is wall around 105-106 BCLK with AHCI. But A85x has not this limit.

 

[FlanK3r]

So, Im done with little baby Kabini and Asus AM1-I A. Great board and good small CPU

How is it stable? I got stable settings at 132 MHz BCLK!
The power consumption in load is only 5 W higher than with stock settings . Lets go to OC stable results:

AIDA AES:

AIDA Memory-nice improvement

Cinebench R15

Cinebench R11.5

Cinebench R10

Winrar, wow, over 2000 KB/s!

3D Mark11 Performance test

And now some fun with benchmarks (not fully stable PC in OCCT)
PiFast

Wprime 1024M

Cinebench R15 at 2303 MHz!

Cinebench R11.5 at 2303 MHz

Superpi 2303 MHz

Max clock - 2367 MHz (with +1 Mhz BCLK I had issues with SATA/graphics outputs)

 

[insane 360]

very cool stuff man, thanks for all the pics and overclocking goodness!

 

[FlanK3r]

Thank you. I like overclocking. Now Im so busy, need some rest time, but we will know whats coming from blue side...So not time for rest now :-(

 

[FlanK3r]

full article from my side

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/p...ma-amd-am1-athlon-x4-5150-a-deska-asus-am1i-a

 

[john_]

You couldn't overclock the 2650 or haven't you tried? I think you don't mention anything about 2650 and overclocking.

 

[FlanK3r]

I can, but this is review 5150, not 2650 ,-)...2650 vs Baytrail will be later

 

[chule250]

Are you using stock cooler? Do you need any other startup app ir you can change it all from the bios? Great info.

 

[Steevo]

That is true, I'd use the PCI-E slot for a RAID controller, I don't think it was really intended to be used for graphics cards.

This, exactly this.

I want to build a small form factor PC in a almost entirely enclosed case, and move my array out of mine for use in media server. I could throw a cheap SSD in and my 6TB of storage and they could game, watch movies I ripped, emulators, and I could have my mapped storage for media still. I can setup a time for it to log them off, and on Gb or high speed wireless its not much slower than real world use now.

 

[Vario]

P908!?

 

[Frick]

I've honestly been thinking about replacing the innards of my HP DC7800 SFF with something like this. It feels like I'm done with towers.

 

[chule250]

Ok, i tried with the same motherboard, and i could reach stable 127 apu (aound 2032mhz, pretty cool). I notice that it only works booting windows: linux wont see the hard disk at all. I think this could be related to the apu/ahci limit to 105. Does anybody know if there is any workaround for this?

EDIT: after reading, Ive noticed that although AHCI mode is enabled in bios, when going further than 105, ahci is disabled, and you can notice that in windows too. So i think windows disables automatically while linux stays with the bios option and only works when ide mode is selected over 105.