Is AMD Dead?

[Hirotoshi]

Of course AMD isn't dead. Like for me AMD make GPUs with best performance/price ratio. Bulldozer CPUs? Well, mistakes happens. They actually good at APUs and notebook CPUs.

 

[ne6togadno]

 

[Shambles1980]

what are those max avarage or minimum fps?
also a lot of the comments on the page seem to say they have the same cpu, and they dont get that kind of performance.

 

[jamesLyle]

Amd cannot be dead I! just saw them In downtown Modesto,Ca. It was this Morning.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

LOL, I've seen this video and I noticed none of the AMD CPU bashers here want tot talk about it. That's because as the video suggests, A) Intel fanatics don't want to compare same price point CPUs, and B) they don't want to talk about the fact that Intel CPU benches often show specific games, like Nvidia ones do.

 

[TheMailMan78]

LOL, I've seen this video and I noticed none of the AMD CPU bashers here want tot talk about it. That's because as the video suggests, A) Intel fanatics don't want to compare same price point CPUs, and B) they don't want to talk about the fact that Intel CPU benches often show specific games, like Nvidia ones do.

Used AMD for years. The fact is you get better performance with Intel. Want to go cheap? AMD is fine. However 2600K still smacks around 90% of AMD offerings for dirt cheap.

There is nothing wrong with AMD but you are an idiot to think they are in the same league as Intel CPU's and chipsets. The old school FX days are over. Time to move on. You want speed? You got to go Intel.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Used AMD for years. The fact is you get better performance with Intel. Want to go cheap? AMD is fine. However 2600K still smacks around 90% of AMD offerings for dirt cheap.

There is nothing wrong with AMD but you are an idiot to think they are in the same league as Intel CPU's and chipsets. The old school FX days are over. Time to move on. You want speed? You got to go Intel.

I have a hard time taking your posts as holistic truth when you are so biased toward a set type of game that meets your criteria for the eye candy you've spoiled yourself with. You're widely known as one of the most exaggerating eccentrics on the site because of it, nit picking to no end on trailers. This is the same kind of hype CPUs are benched with.

At the end of the day AMD still typically outperforms on equal price chips and even holds it's own when you bench a wide range of titles, instead of just Intel fanboy ones.

 

[Hilux SSRG]

LOL, I've seen this video and I noticed none of the AMD CPU bashers here want tot talk about it. That's because as the video suggests, A) Intel fanatics don't want to compare same price point CPUs, and B) they don't want to talk about the fact that Intel CPU benches often show specific games, like Nvidia ones do.

I have nothing against AMD, but that video [1.5yrs. old] compares a 8350 to a then 6mos. old 3570k.

 

[Shambles1980]

all i know for a fact is the fx-8120 was terrible and could not even come close to an i5-2500k.
i really hope that the 83xx are as good as that 1 review says, and that the rest of the review sites are all bought out by intel and wrong.
(personally I dont like the review, no min frames and max frames.. so he could do a 20 min bench test. then stand by a wall for 10 mins with 400fps on amd and 200fps on intel then runs around for the next 10 minutes, the intel gets a min of 60 fps. and and the amd gets a min of 29fps. the lower frames of the amd drags down the avarages. but at the end of the 10 mins the amd is still 5fps ahead.. )
im not saying that is what happened. but its why i dont like the review/benchmark system. averages don't mean crap to me. all i want to know are the minimums.
Also some of the games tested really could not load either the gpu or cpu fully. but some how there is a 100fps difference..
so im not sure how much i can take from the review.

in my own personal experience an 8120 is about the same as a overclocked q6600,. Its hard to imagine that a 8350 is 60-70% faster than an 8120. but i dont doubt it has to be better than bulldozer.
i would also like to point out that i bought an 8120 because i bought the amd fanboy spoof that for gaming that the bulldozers were just as good as a 2nd gen intel really
.All that did however was get sold on almost instantly and replaced.
I would be pretty happy if the 8350 was able to out perform even an i5-2500k which would make it a decent choice of cpu. but i dont think the 10% better performance over bulldozer that amd states piledriver has is enough to close the gap that i saw with my own eyes.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I have a hard time taking your posts as holistic truth when you are so biased toward a set type of game that meets your criteria for the eye candy you've spoiled yourself with. You're widely known as one of the most exaggerating eccentrics on the site because of it, nit picking to no end on trailers. This is the same kind of hype CPUs are benched with.

At the end of the day AMD still typically outperforms on equal price chips and even holds it's own when you bench a wide range of titles, instead of just Intel fanboy ones.

I'm sorry I thought this was an enthusiasts site? I didn't realize it was a mediocre gaming forum. Most PC gamers expect the best eye candy they can afford. This is why we are PC gamers and not console kiddies. If all you can afford is AMD then great! Its still better than consoles. However, you are beyond naïve to think AMD can hang with Intel on high end gaming rigs. Wanna play Farmville and 10 year old DX9 games? Sure AMD is awesome. Want to play Skyrim with a decent FPS? Yeah, you better go Intel. Sorry buckaroo that's just the way the chips fall.

 

[broken pixel]

AMD still has the crypto comput advantage over Nvidia.

 

[The Von Matrices]

AMD still has the crypto comput advantage over Nvidia.

Not against the Maxwell architecture:

Spoiler

http://www.pcper.com/news/General-T...-Performance-Increases-Maxwell-and-GTX-750-Ti

Plus, I don't think AMD wants that market anyway. Shortages of cards and high prices are bad when their PR focuses on affordable gaming.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Yeah it's not exactly an advantage, miners are money grabbers and don't offer any brand loyalty at all. All they did was create shortages and push up prices forcing AMD's real target audience to sit there frustrated and priced out of the market.

In turn once whatever they are mining is deemed not profitable enough, they are quick to flood the market with cheap AMD hardware, again not doing AMD any favours (despite their PR at pushing prices down).

AMD will survive, it's kinda what they do... float along giving away tech and not making much money.

 

[satindemon4u]

Maybe I am hard headed and ignorant for posting without reading some of the other posts BUT; it seems to me that if someone were arguing with you that AMD is dead they must have some sort of grudge against the company. Perhaps they received some piece of equipment from them that was DOA. Whatever the reason, it seems that there logic was backed by nothing but opinion instead of factual information. I must agree with you though that AMD doesn't have near the capitol to toss around like Intel does. I believe that AMD is doing a fine job. So much so that I personally have never purchased a video card from them but I think it may be my next.

 

[buildzoid]

I still think AMD is optimum for entering pc gaming. An fx6300 or fx4350 + 970 mobo cost the same as a single i5 4670 have the same pcie lanes the same amount of sata and preform similarly well in most games excluding RTSs and MMOs. An unOCed fx 6300 + 7970 does 35 to 60 fps in completely maxed out Planetside 2 @ 1080p. That's only 10fps less than my 3960x got with that exact same card. and as long as people building gaming pcs know that AMD should be fine.

 

[jamesLyle]

Intel Fans should all Be thankful for Amd. for with out the competition Amd has provided prices would be higher and the technology would not be as good.
This is a fact no one can deny. I am currently using amd. If I can afford it my next build will be Intel. I am thankful for both Intel and Amd. We should all hope that AMD sticks
around, If not we will all eventually suffer.

 

[Vario]

LOL, I've seen this video and I noticed none of the AMD CPU bashers here want tot talk about it. That's because as the video suggests, A) Intel fanatics don't want to compare same price point CPUs, and B) they don't want to talk about the fact that Intel CPU benches often show specific games, like Nvidia ones do.

Using a crystal ball tells me that discussing it will result in the thread being locked.
Here is the data, go crazy:
https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd...s-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Get an 8350 to 5ghz with decent northbridge speeds and they are easily game ready until way after windows 9 hits the Street.
I get a rock and I mean rock solid 30fps in watchdog's on ultra with temporal AA and vysnc x2, 2 x frames but admit turning off vsync makes for eratic fps and stuttering.
Amd cheap in well rocks and for those who just love to tweak and stress different ocs amd wins on features and settings by far they are more fun to oc imho.

 

[JunkBear]

I'm not a knowledgeable guy in newer technology but I think that if AMD pushed their APU to business minded people at large scale, schools and government offices they could make more money while keeping the dollars rolling. Cheap effective systems that cost less electricity and stay cool. Replacing these more expensive Intel cpu and lower integrated Intel gpu card with APU could be a bump also in imagery for hospitals purpose.

 

[suraswami]

Using a crystal ball tells me that discussing it will result in the thread being locked.
Here is the data, go crazy:
https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd...s-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks

Here you go, just to make your life easy!!

 

[Frick]

I'm sorry I thought this was an enthusiasts site? I didn't realize it was a mediocre gaming forum. Most PC gamers expect the best eye candy they can afford. This is why we are PC gamers and not console kiddies. If all you can afford is AMD then great! Its still better than consoles. However, you are beyond naïve to think AMD can hang with Intel on high end gaming rigs. Wanna play Farmville and 10 year old DX9 games? Sure AMD is awesome. Want to play Skyrim with a decent FPS? Yeah, you better go Intel. Sorry buckaroo that's just the way the chips fall.

I'm glad the troll is alive and well.

(i'm not saying you're wrong, just that you're a troll, because you are)

 

[Dent1]

Here you go, just to make your life easy!!

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According to that chart, the AMD 8 core is ahead in 3/5 of those tests.

Funny how the Intel trolls are not challenging it or disputing it.


BTW was that your own person test?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Also interesting that the fx 9570 etc is all but forgotten when many troll amds high end cpu output ie they are still releasing something just not at intels accelerated yet largely irrelevant pace

 

[heflys20]

According to that chart, the AMD 8 core is ahead in 3/5 of those tests.

Funny how the Intel trolls are not challenging it or disputing it.


BTW was that your own person test?

To play devil's advocate, I saw another test(s) that included Metro 2033 where the 8350 is getting beaten by a 4430 (which, oddly, beat out both the 4670k and 4770k) and falters a bit in multi-gpu setups.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-september-2013/6

But that's all moot really.

Is AMD dead? Of course not, it's silly to assume such.

 

[Shambles1980]

According to that chart, the AMD 8 core is ahead in 3/5 of those tests.

Funny how the Intel trolls are not challenging it or disputing it.


BTW was that your own person test?

prehaps because the inetl users dont mind if they were better, its the amd boys that usually have a rage fit when things are said lol.