Devil's Canyon and Intel hatred.

[OneMoar]

seriously op is either trolling or jelly because AMD chips are slower then intel and intel gets to sit on its ass and do nothing and still slap amd around just for the fun of it

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

You don't get that people expected 5ghz on air as Intel claimed was possible.
And you certainly don't like anyone bad mouthing intel, they failed to deliver with
DC and deserve some debate imho though I can't be bothered as I wasn't ever getting one.
I just see this thread as reasonable given Dc is not an Oc demon.

Intel hatreds a bit harsh but his point re performance is fair.

 

[Naito]

What is the point of this thread?

In relation to Broadwell, I'm sure Intel know what they're doing with SKUs and pricing as to not put "pressure on themselves".

 

[Dent1]

seriously op is either trolling or jelly because AMD chips are slower then intel and intel gets to sit on its ass and do nothing and still slap amd around just for the fun of it

Wow. These days all your replies sound so immature.

 

[Keullo-e]

how about an unlocked i3 as a start? I missed those days when you can just buy any intel processor/board and overclock to your heart's content.

The LGA1156 (Clarkdale) i3:s were very nice, OC'd to 4.3+ easily.

 

[Sempron Guy]

The LGA1156 (Clarkdale) i3:s were very nice, OC'd to 4.3+ easily.

yup till they dropped the bomb and charge a premium for those who wants to tweak

 

[20mmrain]

I agree to a point...... That Intel is charging a Stupid amount of money for minor improvements.

But one piece of advice, Intel is a business and a larger company.... don't take it so personally.

Its not like Intel said "man, I can't wait to Piss off Leothelesser!"

 

[Frick]

how about an unlocked i3 as a start? I missed those days when you can just buy any intel processor/board and overclock to your heart's content.

Screw that, unlocked Atoms and Celerons.

 

[newtekie1]

Screw that, unlocked Atoms and Celerons.

My 4.1GHz Celeron E3200 was one of my favorite processors...

 

[GhostRyder]

The only Hatred towards Intel is from the Devil's Canyon charade. The TIM is significantly better which is great but the problem is that we were promised high overclocking (5ghz on air) which is obviously possible by the looks of the temps in a nominal situation. But right now I have not seen one person break beyond the 4.7-4.8ghz threshold which was just as easily done on a standard 4770K which basically just ruins the whole point of devils canyon. I have not looked to deep in the i5 variant yet, but the only chip that really holds some extreme merrit is that awesome unlocked Pentium.

People are not hating on them, more or less are just disappointed because all the hype built up on these chips (The top end).

 

[Hilux SSRG]

Intel upped the factory OC and left no OC headroom for user's to unlock pretty much sums it up.

 

[BiggieShady]

Intel upped the factory OC and left no OC headroom for user's to unlock pretty much sums it up.

Yeah, but in that case one would expect higher stock voltages. Must be new tapered fin tri-gate transistors.

 

[TheHunter]

Its the same silicon lottery again with 4790K.
Apparently L3xx is kinda bad tops max 4.7ghz, newer L4xx are better 4.8 -4.9ghz but very rare atm, at least so some say..

Imo 4770K is a excellent chip if you have one with good voltage.

Also I find it a little funny all 4790k @ 4.7ghz & Cinebench15 seem to score bellow 960 (even few 4.8ghz with 2400mhz+ ram), my atm 963,

Scored the same later at 4.2ghz cache, not bad imo

 

[TheMailMan78]

Devil's Canyon and Intel hatred.
Intel gives us an i7 with a 10 to14% increase in most benchmarks.
Intel charges the same price.
All and sundry express disgust if not outright hatred towards Intel.
What could Intel do to make people express some love and gratitude?
Haswell at 4.0 to 4.4 is a factory overclock at minimal voltage increase.
Leave stock in a H97 board with a cheaper air cooler (212 evo) and save real money for a very powerful build.

I LOVE BOLD TEXT. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

 

[Vario]

I LOVE BOLD TEXT. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

i wish they had soldered the lid on though that would be much cooler than any thermal paste.

 

[ensabrenoir]

....foolish mortals...... the truth is there is..... no..... Intel
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....all your sundry express disgust if not outright hatred is for nothing......

 

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Thread is argumentative in nature, has nothing to accomplish and serves no relevant purpose to the forum. Plus, the comments are starting to get loony.

Packing it up.