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Scythe Releases the Mugen MAX CPU Cooler

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Japanese manufacturer Scythe innovated the cooling market with its first Mugen CPU cooler in the past. The cooling-expert is introducing the new Mugen MAX, aiming for users seeking maximum performance for their PC system. Mugen Max has received various optimizations, such as the re-designed heatsink for increased performance and the shifted base-plate for improved compatibility to memory modules.

After releasing several compact mainstream models, Scythe now presents a real performance highlight. The performance increase of the Mugen MAX has been achieved by implementing a new heatsink-design and six highly efficient copper-heatpipes. Scythe has used an asymmetric layout for the hetasink, where the copper baseplate is slightly shifted. It allows the Mugen MAX to be used with RAM modules, which are equipped with very large heat-spreaders. In addition, it is no longer necessary to remove the CPU cooler to access the memory modules.





Scythe Mugen MAX stands out with its low weight of only 720 grams (25,40 oz, without fan) in a market segment, where heatsinks easily go beyond 1.000 grams. Further surprising is that the overall dimension 145 x 86 x 161 mm (5,71 x 3,39 x 6,34 inch, without fan) is only slightly exceeding the one from Mugen 4. Hence assures, that Mugen MAX can be fitted into virtually every PC case available on the market. Scythe implemented the well-proven Three-dimensional Multiple Airflow Pass-Through Structure (T-M.A.P.S.) fin structure for its heatsink, which increases the airflow passing in between the fins. The distance between the fins has been increased to 2,6 millimeters (0,10 inch), resulting in reduced flow resistance and improved cooling performance at low fan speeds.

Almost every CPU cooler form Scythe has been supplied with an axial-fan, matching the designated purpose of the product. To match the wide purpose range of Mugen MAX, one 140-millimeter PWM model of the Glide Stream series has been bundled. Fan speed can be controlled conveniently by the PWM controller of the mainboard in a range from 500 to 1.300 RPM, which allows airflow between 63,5 and 165,1 m³/h (37,37 ~ 97,18 CFM). Hence allows it to operate virtually inaudible at 13 dBA at lowest speed or really silent at 30,7 dBA when running at maximum. Enthusiasts, seeking even higher performance are able to use the second fan clip set, which is supplied, to attach a second fan and create a "push-pull" constellation!

Users can rely on the long time experience of Scythe when it comes to cooling performance as well as easy mounting systems. "Hyper Precision Mounting System" (H.P.M.S.) is the latest and most reliable mounting mechanism provided by Scythe, which is featured by the new Mugen MAX as well. Additionally, it is no longer necessary to remove the whole motherboard in order to dismount the CPU cooler.

New Mugen MAX supports latest Intel motherboard sockets, such as LGA775, LGA 1150, LGA 1155, LGA 1156, including LGA 1366 and LGA 2011. The compatibility list includes all relevant AMD sockets, featuring AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, FM1 and FM2. All required mounting clips and screws, as well as a wrench, a multi-lingual manual and quality thermal grease are supplied in the package.

Scythe Mugen MAX (model no. SCMGD-1000) is available as of this week. Suggested MSRP is 36,00 EUR (excl. taxes).

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ahhhhrgh damn it's a 161mm :D i guess i will have to settle for the Mugen 2 (or something else) my Carbide Spec-01 handle 150mm (manufacturer recommendation ) but i could put a IFX-14 with a TY-147 (160mm) and the side panel was barely closing :) so a 158-159 max should fit, still Scythe cooler are pretty much great
 
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People still use these?
I guess people are still afraid of closed loop water coolers.
 
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People still use these?
I guess people are still afraid of closed loop water coolers.
not sure if trolling or not (joke) ... but yep air cooler can be as efficient as a CWC ... altho AIO CWC are often noisier than a good HSF, and last but not least HSF cost less than a AIO, well some good brand like Cooler Master, Antec, and some other price their AIO quite good (unlike corsair eh?)

also design ... some people prefer a bulky beasty looking HSF to a AIO :roll:
some good example: (all are quieter than a AIO and concede little ° to them )
 
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Wasn't trolling, I never looked back after CLC but air coolers still look like a good option!
 
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Wasn't trolling
hence the (joke) after my comment ;)

I never looked back after CLC but air coolers still look like a good option!
well i will try out a Seidon 240 to see if it can fit in my tiny ATX box...
tho i had a Corsair H60/H70 and Cooler Master Seidon 120v before ... but i always got back to air colling ... (like my TR HR-02 Macho Rev.A) yet my case is soooo restrictive (as my budget was xD) and can't supposedly handle above 150 (review state 158-159 :D ) and Corsair state as compatible only the H50/60/70/80 (and the i version for those who have one) i use a Scythe Katana 4 on my FX-6300 at the moment, not noisy temp acceptable but no OC headroom :D
 

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O Scythe when will you learn
no matter how many revisions of the Muugen you release its still a pos
 
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The bottom line is performance and costs. It's nice that Scythe is trying to compensate for those who are not smart enough to know that DDR3 RAM does not require top mounted heatsinks. Those heatsinks are just cash-flow devices for the RAM makers who take the cash out of sucker's pockets and deposit it in the RAM makers bank account.

Most liquid cooler fanbois aren't even aware how inferior their CLCs are compared to quality HSFs. There are numerous reputable review sites with extensive databases that show how bad the H50/60/80 etc. type coolers are compared to a tower HSF. The worse part is the CLCs cost more, have inferior cooling performance, are nosier and have a documented coolant leak liability that has damaged many a PC hardware. Only the technically challenged would buy a CLC.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2705&page=5

In addition quality tower coolers like the Xigmatek Aegir SD128264 can cool the AMD FX-9xxx series CPUs without problems even with their 220w TDP rating. It's what people don't know that leads them to reach false conclusions.
 
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The bottom line is performance and costs. It's nice that Scythe is trying to compensate for those who are not smart enough to know that DDR3 RAM does not require top mounted heatsinks. Those heatsinks are just cash-flow devices for the RAM makers who take the cash out of sucker's pockets and deposit it in the RAM makers bank account.

Most liquid cooler fanbois aren't even aware how inferior their CLCs are compared to quality HSFs. There are numerous reputable review sites with extensive databases that show how bad the H50/60/80 etc. type coolers are compared to a tower HSF. The worse part is the CLCs cost more, have inferior cooling performance, are nosier and have a documented coolant leak liability that has damaged many a PC hardware. Only the technically challenged would buy a CLC.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2705&page=5
do they require heatsinks no ... not for up to 1600 at cl9 how ever cl7 or 1866+ kits do get quite warm calling it a cash-flow device just shows how much you don't know
my 32nm samsung sticks get upwards of 50c when running at 1900Mhz @ 1.6v ram temps DO matter as does everything else
 
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do they require heatsinks no ... not for up to 1600 at cl9 how ever cl7 or 1866+ kits do get quite warm calling it a cash-flow device just shows how much you don't know

Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Independent objective scientific tests substantiate everything I posted. DDR3 @ 2400 MHz. does not run hot even with gaming and video encoding. Quite warm is well within the operating range for the DIMMS. The CL rating has nothing to do with the operating temp. You are correct in that YOU don't know.
 

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Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Independent objective scientific tests substantiate everything I posted. DDR3 @ 2400 MHz. does not run hot even with gaming and video encoding. Quite warm is well within the operating range for the DIMMS. The CL rating has nothing to do with the operating temp. You are correct in that YOU don't know.
provide links and documentation to your "objective scientific tests substantiate" or quit using words you don't understand kid
 
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+1 for the hate of AIO cooler.
i just cant trust it, many leak.

i do prefer fan.

but custom/homemade WC is the best of all.
 
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+1 for the hate of AIO cooler.
i just cant trust it, many leak.

i do prefer fan.

but custom/homemade WC is the best of all.

That^ custom loop looks awesome! is it yours? Is that all metal soldered piping?
 

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iv never heard of a AIO leaking and they are filled with non conductive coolant anyway
 
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+1 for the hate of AIO cooler. i just cant trust it, many leak.

I will bet that there are more leaks on custom made WC systems than on AIO......
 

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Until the pumps go quiet and the fans can spin slow next to the radiators water is way to noisy for me.
 
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Most liquid cooler fanbois aren't even aware how inferior their CLCs are compared to quality HSFs.

Or, you know, some people don't have space for a 160-180mm tall HSF, but EVERYBODY has room for a tiny CPU block and a 120mm rad. They aren't inferior. The best AIO available still flat out beats everything, with only the Cryorig R1 coming remotely close. The Noctua D15 is only close because they simply made it bigger.

With an AIO installed, I can reach everything on my motherboard - RAM, CPU 8pin, MoBo 24pin, and better yet, it doesnt even touch my RAM or the back of my GPU. A D15 or R1 however, requires LP RAM, and cuts off access to all these other parts. It also requires a large-ish case.

Clearly you know absolutely nothing about practicality of CPU coolers. Then again, Jorge, your opinion on these news posts is entirely ignored by everyone anyway.
Also the Nile merely runs through Egypt, a larger percentage of it is in other countries.
 
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it's not a matter of fanboyism... CWC are not bad (if you don't take Corsair ...) and as RCoon wrote not everybody has room for a 160+ tall HSF, in the end my comment started a Fanboy war with pointless and unrelated to the news comment ... (except my 1st comment... ) totally despicable.

A D15 or R1 however, requires LP RAM, and cuts off access to all these other parts. It also requires a large-ish case..
i beg to differ the R1 is excentered and use a slim fan the review showed him to be no hinder to RAM clearance. (true for the rest and the D15) well maybe not for the 1st slot but ... LP with HS are legion now and tall HS for RAM are not so useful even LP HS RAM can OC and remain cool (ie: G.Skills ARES/HyperX Fury)
 
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it's not a matter of fanboyism... CWC are not bad (if you don't take Corsair ...) and as RCoon wrote not everybody has room for a 160+ tall HSF, in the end my comment started a Fanboy war with pointless and unrelated to the news comment ... (except my 1st comment... ) totally despicable.


i beg to differ the R1 is excentered and use a slim fan the review showed him to be no hinder to RAM clearance. (true for the rest and the D15) well maybe not for the 1st slot but ... LP with HS are legion now and tall HS for RAM are not so useful even LP HS RAM can OC and remain cool (ie: G.Skills ARES/HyperX Fury)

I have to say, if ever I bought a HSF, it would be the Cryorig. It genuinely is the best I've seen, and solves all the problems everyone else seems incapable of doing.
 
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iv never heard of a AIO leaking and they are filled with non conductive coolant anyway

"no conductive" mean nothing in real life. Did see one at my Shop with a leak.
Mobo was dead, trying my Best removing all that jelly liquid. But when it go right in the 16pciex connector, pretty dangerous.

But i do agree for space saving.
Some great AIO cooler outthere, U Just need find a good quality one.
 
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"no conductive" mean nothing in real life. Did see one at my Shop with a leak.
Mobo was dead, trying my Best removing all that jelly liquid. But when it go right in the 16pciex connector, pretty dangerous.

But i do agree for space saving.
Some great AIO cooler outthere, U Just need find a good quality one.

Do AIO manufacturers not offer compensation if their product leaks and damages your other components? I was considering getting a 240mm AIO but some of the posts here make me wanna get a Dark Rock 3 be safe!
 
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Do AIO manufacturers not offer compensation if their product leaks and damages your other components? I was considering getting a 240mm AIO but some of the posts here make me wanna get a Dark Rock 3 be safe!
Nobody gets leaks on the CLCs unless they are being stupid with it. However pump failures aren't that rare. So an HSF will always win in reliability.
 
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I have to say, if ever I bought a HSF, it would be the Cryorig. It genuinely is the best I've seen, and solves all the problems everyone else seems incapable of doing.
the Termalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A i had was kinda like that good temps/RAM clearance and a size comparable to the R1 but only dual fan at maximum tho half the price of the R1 and used a 25mm standard 140mm fan, in the end what will make me considere a bigger case later is those type of HSF ... or the day i will consider a custom loop ...
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Do AIO manufacturers not offer compensation if their product leaks and damages your other components? I was considering getting a 240mm AIO but some of the posts here make me wanna get a Dark Rock 3 be safe!

welp. just wanna share my story but hey, they are plenty of aio cooling solution and it might be just some first model was not that good (like everything). So new model now shure are more good.

am i off topic off the scythe mugen releases? x) anyway good stuff scythe ::toast:
 
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