EVGA and K|NGP|N Break New World Record with First True 2GHz on GTX 780 Ti

[v12dock]

Omg I love what this thread has turned into.

 

[nem]

just check it this , just pass over the gigahert the power consumtion is a shit

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/14/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-ghz-edition-review/8

 

[eidairaman1]

You can't drive a dragster to the grocery store to get a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread either but that's not why we have dragsters.

For racing...

Bad analogy

 

[TheGuruStud]

just check it this , just pass over the gigahert the power consumtion is a shit

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/14/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-ghz-edition-review/8

But, but, AMD cards are crappy and use 5000 watts!!!!!

 

[Fluffmeister]

Shit as in the same as a 290X? Hahaha.

 

[the54thvoid]

just check it this , just pass over the gigahert the power consumtion is a shit

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/14/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-ghz-edition-review/8

But, but, AMD cards are crappy and use 5000 watts!!!!!

Not sure who's saying what but it's a perf/watt metric. Ignoring the 780Ti seems odd given it uses only 380 watts which is less than both 780Ghz and 290x. Why use a bad example to prove a point?

Also, overclocking cards is most definitely about drawing power, so the above point is absolutely irrelevant to this post. Bringing power consumption into a thread about a gpu doing 2 motherfucking Ghz is purile nonsense. I can't recall people being so power conscious when AMD or Intel do 7Ghz runs on their cpu's.

Jeez, it's a tech forum, celebrate the achievement or say something relevant.

 

[dj-electric]

I'd like to take the stage to say something relevant.

Guys, remember the first days of HWbot? when OC was relevant to home users?

I would take my 8600GT and squeeze the bajebus out of it just to get medals and compete with other home uses.

And than, the "proffesionals" came with their sponsers and extremely ridicules cherry picking. It was a fun ride and i'm sure missing the competition. HWbot soon turned into an all-out war between companies.

I'm really sorry, but it's hard for me to take any serious OC achievement today. It's so "fake" and unlikely, exactly the opposite of sport achievements that's being worked hard by a person his whole life.

 

[the54thvoid]

I'd like to take the stage to say something relevant.

Guys, remember the first days of HWbot? when OC was relevant to home users?

I would take my 8600GT and squeeze the bajebus out of it just to get medals and compete with other home uses.

And than, the "proffesionals" came with their sponsers and extremely ridicules cherry picking. It was a fun ride and i'm sure missing the competition. HWbot soon turned into an all-out war between companies.

I'm really sorry, but it's hard for me to take any serious OC achievement today. It's so "fake" and unlikely, exactly the opposite of sport achievements that's being worked hard by a person his whole life.

But then, that's the way of the world. We have our own forums to do benches in and they are fun, our 3DMark scores, Heaven etc. HWBot elite scores are exactly that - elite. Hell, some of the guys on TPU post up using LN2 or at least close to freezing cooling set ups. It's all a sliding scale of 'enthusiasm'.

 

[Sempron Guy]

This is probably a dumb question, but are those 780Tis on liquid nitro or stock cooling?

 

[utengineer]

The article states, "GPU clock-speed up to a staggering 2025MHz..."

They state this resulted in, "This frequency also allowed for a new 3DMark Fire Strike Extreme World Record, 8793 points."

The 3DMark World Record link provided in the article(@ 8793 points) shows the GPU Core clock at 1,530 MHz; and, the Memory bus clock at 1,955 MHz.

Am I reading this wrong? Appears the CPU clock-speed on the CPU core is well short of 2025 MHz. The memory is clocked at 1955 MHz....still shy of 2025 MHz this article claims.

 

[eidairaman1]

This is probably a dumb question, but are those 780Tis on liquid nitro or stock cooling?

Liquid Nitrogen

 

[Steevo]

The article states, "GPU clock-speed up to a staggering 2025MHz..."

They state this resulted in, "This frequency also allowed for a new 3DMark Fire Strike Extreme World Record, 8793 points."

The 3DMark World Record link provided in the article(@ 8793 points) shows the GPU Core clock at 1,530 MHz; and, the Memory bus clock at 1,955 MHz.

Am I reading this wrong? Appears the CPU clock-speed on the CPU core is well short of 2025 MHz. The memory is clocked at 1955 MHz....still shy of 2025 MHz this article claims.

Most likely they were able to boot and get a screen cap at 2Ghz, but ran that speed for actual testing. I can run 1.2Ghz on my 5870 core, until I move the mouse or use the GPU, or at least I could on my old one.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

The article states, "GPU clock-speed up to a staggering 2025MHz..."

They state this resulted in, "This frequency also allowed for a new 3DMark Fire Strike Extreme World Record, 8793 points."

The 3DMark World Record link provided in the article(@ 8793 points) shows the GPU Core clock at 1,530 MHz; and, the Memory bus clock at 1,955 MHz.

Am I reading this wrong? Appears the CPU clock-speed on the CPU core is well short of 2025 MHz. The memory is clocked at 1955 MHz....still shy of 2025 MHz this article claims.

GPU-Z shows incorrect frequency. Also don't forget that is base clock not the boost clock.

 

[ShockG]

I'd like to take the stage to say something relevant.

Guys, remember the first days of HWbot? when OC was relevant to home users?

I would take my 8600GT and squeeze the bajebus out of it just to get medals and compete with other home uses.

And than, the "proffesionals" came with their sponsers and extremely ridicules cherry picking. It was a fun ride and i'm sure missing the competition. HWbot soon turned into an all-out war between companies.

I'm really sorry, but it's hard for me to take any serious OC achievement today. It's so "fake" and unlikely, exactly the opposite of sport achievements that's being worked hard by a person his whole life.

What?
Wait a minute, HWBOT was built by "professionals". Are you serious? They didn't come in, it was built by Frederick right in the beginning who was an extreme* overclocker who used his own funds to make an oc database. When Massman came in (an extreme overclocker as well), it got even more formalized. HWBOT had nothing to do with "home users". The only reason you could get medals was because the size of competitors were small. Now, there's thousands more people and the competition is tougher.
The so called professionals were guys who saved and spent sometimes money for other things to get the parts they wanted. They sacrificed so much when nobody was supporting anyone at all. It's insulting to those who actually have been around Extreme OC to read things like this especially on a tech forum like this one.
When the old forum plugin existed, it was cool, but anyone could claim whatever score. It was vulnerable to cheating. Part of what made it so technical and highly competitive is because the competition became intense, hence we needed validations, and checks, it became tightly controlled. Much like how tightly controlled F1 is today or any other competitive endevour.

There are three leagues on HWBOT, an air-cooled/water cooled league, a professional and an enthusiast league. You can enter any one of those. How high you go is determined by your efforts alone. don't blame others for your lack of competitiveness. In your own country there exists one of the top overclockers in the world, who honed his craft from absolutely nothing but his gaming computer in high school. That was years ago. You can collect Hardware points even today, with the cheapest and oldest graphics cards, CPUs and memory you can find. get a few trimmers (these cost less than $1 each and can be re-used) a DMM and a soldering iron and you can go very very far.

The amount of effort put in by these guys is beyond your comprehension, these scores are not achieved by way of sponsorship, but countless hours and days of working at it, repeated failures and what you see is a single successful run.

So "taking it seriously?" No, you just lost interest in. HWBOT did not do "this" to the community, there hasn't been a single organization that's done more to help formalize overclocking than HWBOT.

 

[ensabrenoir]

.......I like poking fun and trolling a little every now and then....but.....some people really don't get it. This is actually pretty cool. I love to see hardware pushed to the max.....kinda what makes this hobby fun......

 

[HumanSmoke]

just check it this , just pass over the gigahert the power consumtion is a shit

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/03/14/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-ghz-edition-review/8

You just trolling or demonstrating a basic inability to parse the information from the review you just linked to?
The Gigabyte GTX 780 GHz Edition ships with a nominal 18% overclock over stock. The card actually sits at a solid 1163- 1197 MHz in gaming....all for 46W over stock. Care to guess what some of the other cards' power consumption might be with the same overclock?

But, but, AMD cards are crappy and use 5000 watts!!!!!

They'd probably be a bit closer than 409W if power consumption was measured at 1150-1200 don't you think?

 

[Athlonite]

You can't drive a dragster to the grocery store to get a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread either but that's not why we have dragsters.

Actually you can there's a guy in England who owns a street legal dragster which has 2200BHP and does 0-60 1.0secs

 

[RCoon]

Actually you can there's a guy in England who owns a street legal dragster which has 2200BHP and does 0-60 1.0secs

Best post in this entire thread

 

[Keullo-e]

The bottom line is that Kingpin busted all of the records to hell. Thank you for giving to us your best effort.

F**k Kingpin. Sampsa Kurri and SF3D ftw! Yeah, greetings from Finland!

 

[Vlada011]

I don't know why someone who buy such cards think at all about power consumption. That's not AMD CPU, much slower than Intel and 3 times more power consumption.
Give me performance and not so hot chip and I will not ask if she need 800W. I will put 1-1.2KW PSU and no problems.
K|NGP|N Edition Classified is now available on Caseking for 780e if someone want from Europe but can't buy directly from EVGA from some reason.
http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/
My opinion is that's best for gamers and overclockers depend how you use card.
Gamers will use official LN2 BIOS and 1189-1212MHz boost with 0 voltage increase as nice 200MHz overclocking. Gaming on such Ti is completely something difference than gaming on reference and DCII OC example special because we never can test card stability so good as manufacturer. Overclockers will flash unofficial BIOS with no limit on power target and some crazy voltage numbers for overclocking. Even gamers will use longer benefits of this model. At least until some new Maxwell successor of Titan Black show up.
Now some people report more models with 1212MHz boost and with only little voltage increase clock will increase probably on 1230MHz boost without OC at all.
Yes they talk and about more samples with better overclocking Samsung memory with official BIOS. That's real deal and I was happy when I saw I don't need to touch timings for
400+ on Memory(200MHz)... and now more people report 400-500 on memory.

 

[Athlonite]

Yeah OK so they busted all the records YaY for them, But I fail to see how useful this is to anyone without a ready supply of LN2 and an unlimited supply of cheery picked GPU's it's all pretty meaningless if that 2GHz isn't usable and apparently it wasn't because the benchies were run at a lower OC

 

[Vlada011]

 

[cadaveca]

Yeah OK so they busted all the records YaY for them, But I fail to see how useful this is to anyone without a ready supply of LN2 and an unlimited supply of cheery picked GPU's it's all pretty meaningless if that 2GHz isn't usable and apparently it wasn't because the benchies were run at a lower OC

It's not really about the GPU itself. Or the OC. It's about some company employees - no... engineers - pushing their PCB design to the limit, and showing what their design is capable of...

That's WHY you should be buying a custom-built VGA. For the PCB. Very few are worthy of such purchases, and instead, are designed meant to maximize value and profit for the company making them. It seems marketing fails in finding a way to present this in a way that is palatable to the end consumer.

What really makes this news-worthy isn't even really portrayed. I mean, I understand...clearly not many others do though.

What?
Wait a minute, HWBOT was built by "professionals". Are you serious? They didn't come in, it was built by Frederick right in the beginning who was an extreme* overclocker who used his own funds to make an oc database. When Massman came in (an extreme overclocker as well), it got even more formalized. HWBOT had nothing to do with "home users". The only reason you could get medals was because the size of competitors were small. Now, there's thousands more people and the competition is tougher.
The so called professionals were guys who saved and spent sometimes money for other things to get the parts they wanted. They sacrificed so much when nobody was supporting anyone at all. It's insulting to those who actually have been around Extreme OC to read things like this especially on a tech forum like this one.
When the old forum plugin existed, it was cool, but anyone could claim whatever score. It was vulnerable to cheating. Part of what made it so technical and highly competitive is because the competition became intense, hence we needed validations, and checks, it became tightly controlled. Much like how tightly controlled F1 is today or any other competitive endevour.
There are three leagues on HWBOT, an air-cooled/water cooled league, a professional and an enthusiast league. You can enter any one of those. How high you go is determined by your efforts alone. don't blame others for your lack of competitiveness. In your own country there exists one of the top overclockers in the world, who honed his craft from absolutely nothing but his gaming computer in high school. That was years ago. You can collect Hardware points even today, with the cheapest and oldest graphics cards, CPUs and memory you can find. get a few trimmers (these cost less than $1 each and can be re-used) a DMM and a soldering iron and you can go very very far.
The amount of effort put in by these guys is beyond your comprehension, these scores are not achieved by way of sponsorship, but countless hours and days of working at it, repeated failures and what you see is a single successful run.
So "taking it seriously?" No, you just lost interest in. HWBOT did not do "this" to the community, there hasn't been a single organization that's done more to help formalize overclocking than HWBOT.

HWBOT caters to a small minority of PC enthusiasts. The majority simply doesn't care. And those of us that wanted to achieve what others were doing were soured by Andre's rigging contests by handing out scores and other such stuff. Us old elephants never forget.

Today, HWBOT is basically those with lots of cash to bench with, or those with free parts. It's highly scrutinized, and nearly 100% owned (score-wise) by OEM employees. I look at it like those car makers pushing Nurburgring times. Dominated by those that make OEMs. It's quite openly so now, rather than many of those guys pretending to normal users. It's THAT that soured most to HWBOT...the lies and deceit.

 

[Massman]

HWBOT caters to a small minority of PC enthusiasts. The majority simply doesn't care. And those of us that wanted to achieve what others were doing were soured by Andre's rigging contests by handing out scores and other such stuff. Us old elephants never forget.

Today, HWBOT is basically those with lots of cash to bench with, or those with free parts. It's highly scrutinized, and nearly 100% owned (score-wise) by OEM employees. I look at it like those car makers pushing Nurburgring times. Dominated by those that make OEMs. It's quite openly so now, rather than many of those guys pretending to normal users. It's THAT that soured most to HWBOT...the lies and deceit.

I can understand your point of view. For us, we have always found ourselves between a rock and a hard place looking for the compromise between the industry and the community. It's been an incredible struggle so far.

If you consider HWBOT as a whole, most of it is still driven by enthusiasts. Most of the overclocking "world records" are industry-driven, but I don't think people like overclocking because they can get a world record. Just like car racing, people just do it because they enjoy it.

Very recently we have increased the granularity in terms of overclocker groups. Now we separate five different types of overclockers, each with their League:

- Rookie: signed up 3 months to date, only ambient cooling
- Novice: signed up 1 year to date, only ambient cooling
- Enthusiast: only ambient cooling
- Extreme: the extreme cooling folks
- Elite: those with industry ties and general "marketing" overclocking

Anyway, just like any other hobby overclocking evolves continuously. We are currently in a phase where the real hard-core enthusiasts are trying to figure out ways to minimize the loss on binning components (even with the low-end or old-school hardware). That is an interesting problem too.

In the end, I guess we should just focus on how we can make overclocking more enjoyable for everyone. So if you have any suggestions in that regard, my email is always open .

 

[Darklyspectre]

oh my god. those people going "wow only 1.15V look at the amazing potential in kepler".

Are those people serious. Don't people know that software reads voltages wrong or the fact that this thing is most likely hardmodded to hell. or the whole existence of the EVbot.

worse was somebody going "is this on stock cooler or LN2. yes because a GPU at 2ghz is going to be running at 0 degrees on air"

oh well. guess not everybody is knowledgeable about these things. great result from kingpin though. I wonder how galaxy is going to react. and my word these people having a discussion that started with "no point if you can't play games". don't people understand the concept of "doing it for the hell of it" these people just squeeeeeze stupid amounts of power out of hardware...because they can. no it won't play games. well it might but still but this is just for benching and setting records.