:( CPU Crossroads: i7-4770k vs. FX8350 vs. FX9590

[anandsap123]

First off, please NO fanboying or belligerent statements. Please support your claims with as much data as possible. Thanks. I will be doing video editing and gaming on the side.

Here is my build. Please ignore the selected CPU and Motherboard as we are discussing which one to select now.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/anandsap123/saved/9frYcf

So I have reached the crossroads. Here are my options. All utilize Microcenter CPU+Mobo combos.
Here are my options:

Intel i7-4790k (4.0 Ghz) + Gigabyte Gaming 3
$380 (Please note that the build with the Intel CPU+Mobo (the most expensive combo) fits into my budget. So all of these options are all viable.
This is the most expensive option. Not many advantages that I know of other than the Intel name.

AMD FX8350 (3.5 Ghz) + Gigabyte UD3
$239.98
This is pretty much the AMD equivalent of the i7-4770k. The advantage of this is that I can save $140 in comparison to the Intel CPU+Mobo and reinvest that into another part. Bigger SSD, Better GPU, ideas?
AMD FX9590 (4.7 Ghz) + Gigabyte UD3
$350
This is a factory overclocked version of the AMD FX8350. For some of you more experienced builders&overclockers, this factory overclock will seem useless. But as a no-experience overclocker, a fast factory overclock with a good warranty is appealing. As I will only be saving $30 in comparison to the Intel route, I will not be able to upgrade anything else in my build. Also, please note that I already have solid cooling in my build (Noctua NH-D14).

 

[Vario]

I vote the 4770K of the three. Its the most modern and it has the better motherboards. It is much faster at single thread applications. It has 8 virtual cores so in mulithreaded scenarios it will still do very well. It uses a lot less power and gives off less heat. Can you do a 4790k?

I'd do an i5 but its not on the list.

 

[anandsap123]

Check the edit...but I mean 4.7 Ghz vs. 4.0 Ghz? And NEVER having to worry about overclocking myself?

 

[Vario]

Check the edit...but I mean 4.7 Ghz vs. 4.0 Ghz? And NEVER having to worry about overclocking myself?

The clock speed doesn't make it faster. Its in fact much slower.

 

[anandsap123]

So i7-4790k at 4.0 Ghz is faster than 9590 at 4.7?

 

[Vario]

So i7-4790k at 4.0 Ghz is faster than 9590 at 4.7?

Yes for gaming and most other things. For some things the 9590 is faster.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-9590-9370_5.html#sect0

9590 is good for doing world community grid or certain types of video rendering.

 

[fullinfusion]

Yup I second that on the 4770k over any amd system. I used to be a hard core amd fan but not no more. They make great products but the speed just isn't there.

I was using a 4770k and just upgraded to a 4790k and what a difference. Yes its fast but I really see the difference in gaming and benchmarking like Heaven. I seen over 300points difference just because the cpu isn't the bottle neck when running both amd cards.

Really the amd 8 core is a good choice but the Intel side is like the other guy said uses way less power.

 

[anandsap123]

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/460/AMD_FX-Series_FX-9590_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4790K.html

The only drawbacks are the power consumption and no IGPU...WHO CARES? I have an r9 290 and a very nice 850w PSU...

Also check out these benchmarks from HardwareCanucks
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...166-amd-fx-9590-review-piledriver-5ghz-8.html

 

[Vario]

Okay so buy the 9590 then.
Do you use photoshop and POV ray?

 

[OneMoar]

get the i7
cpuworld is full of shit

 

[Vario]

get the i7
cpuworld is full of shit

On the other hand, CPU world has more bullet points for the 9590. Biggest list = more reasons to buy

 

[GhostRyder]

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/460/AMD_FX-Series_FX-9590_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4790K.html

The only drawbacks are the power consumption and no IGPU...WHO CARES? I have an r9 290 and a very nice 850w PSU...

Also check out these benchmarks from HardwareCanucks
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...166-amd-fx-9590-review-piledriver-5ghz-8.html

I have a 9590, and in all honesty comparing it to the 4790k is quite simple in the fact that it all depends in the end the programs. For all gaming purposes, the 4790k is just a better option. Even at stock its single threaded is better which is what games require since most do not require more than 2-4 cores in general or even run properly beyond 4 cores.

However, for video editing and rendering the 9590 is a step up because of its heavy clock and extra cores which adobe makes use of. But that all depends on the programs and in the end you run into a question of which is better overall.

In the end, if you were just video editing I would say get the 9590. However, because you are gaming as well I would say go for the 4790k because you will have better results in games and the editing will be plenty fast especially with OpenCL boosting.

Many boards offer auto overclocking features as well so I would just get the 4790k in your shoes.

 

[anandsap123]

Programs in which I actually care about performance:
Adobe Premiere Pro CC
Adobe Photoshop CC
Adobe SpeedGrade CC
Adobe Encoder CC
All of which are optimized for OpenCL

So as long as I am getting Above 60 fps at 1080p on High&Up in video games (a hobby), I am satisfied. And my r9 290 will easily accomplish that...

 

[Shambles1980]

id just ignore cpuworld/gpuworld
they tend to go off specs. so a 4ghz pentium 4 would get a bullet point because it has a faster clock speed compared to a i5-2500k.. when they arent any where near the same and simply cannot be compared in that way..

hardware canucks however are usually pretty neutral and do seem to make decent recommendations. and i have no issues with believing what they think to be true.

edit. i think reading the conclusions of the hard ware canucks review would be beneficial .

 

[anandsap123]

Like HardwareCanucks said, the only real downsides are the power consumption (who cares...I have an 850w PSU) and thermal output (who cares...I have a Noctua Nh-D14)

So is the decision AMD FX9590?

 

[Vario]

Like HardwareCanucks said, the only real downsides are the power consumption (who cares...I have an 850w PSU) and thermal output (who cares...I have a Noctua Nh-D14)

So is the decision AMD FX9590?

Well it sure seems that way.

Thread total:
Vario: 4770k
FullInfusion: 4770k
OneMoar: 4770k
GhostRyder: 4790k
Shambles1980: -

therefore 9590!

 

[GhostRyder]

Well it sure seems that way.

Thread total:
Vario: 4770k
FullInfusion: 4770k
OneMoar: 4770k
GhostRyder: 4770k
Shambles: 4770k

therefore 9590!

I said 4790k

 

[Shambles1980]

what i read was. it can only compete with the intel products at the same price point. its a bragging rights for amd fans cpu. most people would get an 8350 as quite a few can get to the same point with some over clocking. it runs ridiculously hot and isnt really that practicall. but its a bit of fun and at-least amd tried to push it.

(thats my summary of the conclusion page.)

if you want the 9590 then get that. i dont think i would personally buy it. and if i had to go amd i would go for the 8350 and just clock it up to the same or near the same speeds.
if i didnt have to go amd. i would get an i7..

 

[Jstn7477]

i7-4790K, which can even be overclocked a little further as well. The FX processors are cheaper, but have poor single-threaded performance and somewhat high power consumption. The FX processors may do better in a few multi-threaded workloads, but still use much more power anyway. Sure, you may have the power supply and cooler to handle it, but do you really want something older and having a higher power consumption just for a few performance gains in some areas? It's kind of like picking an 80s pickup truck with a 7+ liter big block V8 over a newer truck with a smaller V8 or even a V6 that offers nice performance and much better fuel economy. Think about it.

Also, the FX processors don't seem to be doing so well in some newer World Community Grid tasks say some people, I've heard about 8350s getting as low as 3.5K PPD from 5-6K PPD when my 4770K at 4GHz gets 5K PPD average all the time, and on Windows where it performs worse.

 

[anandsap123]

Looks like this is the final build then boys:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/anandsap123/saved/cWzFf7

What do you guys think?

 

[erocker]

Build looks solid.

 

[GhostRyder]

Looks good to me.

 

[yogurt_21]

1. where are you finding those prices on the cpu and motherboard?
2. you sure you want 8.1 instead of windows 7 pro?

 

[anandsap123]

1. Microcenter brother! You get those prices in instant savings when you checkout, you don't even have to worry about mail in rebates!
2. 8.1 works better with games and i dont mind it

 

[OneMoar]

didn't you already build a system or did I miss something .....