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Is there a particular argument against getting a flow meter? Regardless if he redoes his loop, it would be nice to know how well water it circulating in it. Before and after would be even more useful because it would tell you if the changes really are any better or not.
I was thinking to change my loop order,
Maybe this way:
Reservoir/Pump/1 GPU/2 GPU/480 rad/CPU/240 rad/ back to reservoir.
would that work?
 

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I was thinking to change my loop order,
Maybe this way:
Reservoir/Pump/1 GPU/2 GPU/480 rad/CPU/240 rad/ back to reservoir.
would that work?

Seems like it would work, but I think I'd change it a bit differently. I'd go res/pump/gpu1&2/480/240/cpu/res. It would give the cleanest look without extra tuning.

(another viable option with routing: flip that 240 around to the ports are on the right and then go res/pump/240/cpu/480/gpu1&2/res. That's pretty much exactly how I had my setup in my Haf 932, before moving over to the 900D :D)

But @MxPhenom 216 was very right with what he said about angled fittings! They will save a lot of trouble and routing-related headache. When I finally got a bunch of 45s and 90s, it really made the routing so much cleaner and easier.
 
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the only 2 real argument against a flow meeter are.
1 you add extra resistance.
2 you add extra failure points to your loop.

then you have 3
it costs extra money.

you can get flow meeters which translate the flow in to a rpm tacho reading that a mother board can detect as a fan speed. the speed displayed in your pc isnt really the flow rate but its good enough to give you an idea if its faster slower or the same. Its also good because you can set up your bios to power down if it is at 0rpm They also come with a led temperature display..
or you can just go the old school little spinning wheel method which is only for a visual verification of flow.

as for the setup.
its a matter of pump gets fed directly by gravity from the res.
then everything els gets hooked up in the neatest cleanest way possible. with the shortest possible runs of tubing.
 

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Seems like it would work, but I think I'd change it a bit differently. I'd go res/pump/gpu1&2/480/240/cpu/res. It would give the cleanest look without extra tuning.

(another viable option with routing: flip that 240 around to the ports are on the right and then go res/pump/240/cpu/480/gpu1&2/res. That's pretty much exactly how I had my setup in my Haf 932, before moving over to the 900D :D)

But @MxPhenom 216 was very right with what he said about angled fittings! They will save a lot of trouble and routing-related headache. When I finally got a bunch of 45s and 90s, it really made the routing so much cleaner and easier.
I would like to avoid that the last components water goes direct to the reservoir because it's hot, if I go for last GPU 1&2/reservoir/ Pump, that's means that the water that comes from the gpus is hot the reservoir get hot water, the pump get hot water and the 240 get hot water,
Would be good that the water that gets the reservoir is cooled by the 240, maybe going directly from pump/gpu1&2 wouldnt be so wrong because in case the reservoir get cold water and the pump get cold water from the reservoir the heat that comes from the pump won't increase that much the temperatures water that goes from the pump to the gpus.

One more point that must be considered about why I have a lot of tubes and i don't use the shortest possible runs of tubing.

The reason is:
if you saw the pic of my rig that i posted
You noticed that i have a 480 rad at the back of the case and there is no way how to reach that rad with a short tube, it doesn't mater how I run the tubes, the short way it's just one, from gpus to 480 rad instead direct from pump/480 rad.

So this should be the best for my loop:

Reservoir/Pump/gpu1&2/480 rad/CPU/240 rad/ back to reservoir
 
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I would like to avoid that the last components water goes direct to the reservoir because it's hot, if I go for last GPU 1&2/reservoir/ Pump, that's means that the water that comes from the gpus is hot the reservoir get hot water, the pump get hot water and the 240 get hot water,
Would be good that the water that gets the reservoir is cooled by the 240, maybe going directly from pump/gpu1&2 wouldnt be so wrong because in case the reservoir get cold water and the pump get cold water from the reservoir the heat that comes from the pump won't increase that much the temperatures water that goes from the pump to the gpus.

One more point that must be considered about why I have a lot of tubes and i don't use the shortest possible runs of tubing.

The reason is:
if you saw the pic of my rig that i posted
You noticed that i have a 480 rad at the back of the case and there is no way how to reach that rad with a short tube, it doesn't mater how I run the tubes, the short way it's just one, from gpus to 480 rad instead direct from pump/480 rad.

While i have the water from my 2 gpus going directly to the res/pump and am cool with it, I understand the whole thing about you not wanting hot water going to the res and pump, though any thermal difference imo is small.

So this should be the best for my loop:

Reservoir/Pump/gpu1&2/480 rad/CPU/240 rad/ back to reservoir

I think that will serve you very well indeed. To do this, you may take advantage of some angled fittings, which will make your routing much easier. :)
 
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While i have the water from my 2 gpus going directly to the res/pump and am cool with it, I understand the whole thing about you not wanting hot water going to the res and pump, though any thermal difference imo is small.



I think that will server you very well indeed. To do this, you may take advantage of some angled fittings, which will make your routing much easier. :)
So you mean 90s and 45s?

From which point to which point of my loop
You think that I will need the 90s and 45s?
 
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So you mean 90s and 45s?

Yes. When I re-did my loop, I snagged a bunch of fittings ahead of time that I knew I would need to be able to make sharp turns. Once you figure out the new loop order, map it out on paper to get an idea of what you will need. It'll make it easier when it comes time to assemble.

So, see if 45* or 90* angle fittings will help make bends or turns more efficiently and thus help cut down on excess tubing runs
 

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Yes. When I re-did my loop, I snagged a bunch of fittings ahead of time that I knew I would need to be able to make sharp turns. Once you figure out the new loop order, map it out on paper to get an idea of what you will need. It'll make it easier when it comes time to assemble.

So, see if 45* or 90* angle fittings will help make bends or turns more efficiently and thus help cut down on excess tubing runs

in my opinion excess tubing comes when components are too far from radiators
 
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in my opinion excess tubing comes when components are too far from radiators
the thing is with tubing oif you want to go off at 90 degrees. you have to make this huge ass curve of tubing.. probably a good 5-6 inches
if you had a 90 degree fitting then you would cut down about 5 or so inches.
if you have 3-4 of those thats over a foot of tubing your using less.
 

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okay, just so its clear, loop order does not matter in the slightest. Just the fact that pump is after res. Go for the shortest cleanest most direct routes. It shouldn't matter if there's hot water going into the reservoir. As long as its cooled by a rad before going back to the system. This is probably all I have to say for the remainder of this thread. Keyword probably.
 

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so the De-lid its finished and the CPU its back to its place, everything its working perfectly,

as i promised here are some pics of the results

Core Temp 1.0 RC5 idle temp.jpg

Core Temp 1.0 RC5 drop 20.jpg
 

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Great work and great results!! :toast:

BTW I love the background :roll:
 

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Great work and great results!! :toast:

BTW I love the background :roll:
Thanks.

I am impressed.

my full load temperatures fell to 20 degrees in less
 
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