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[Tatty_Two]

I am about to embark on a Matx build, I have just sold a Windforce 3x 7870 OC and have a buyer for my i7 930 and motherboard so it won't cost me anything, I am going to have a play with the Pentium Anniversary CPU (I only really surf and play just one game occasionally which is World of Tanks which is only single threaded) and I am going to pop in the Matx MSI B85 E-45 motherboard which I will flash with the modded Bios that RCoon kindly linked. The idea being that when I get bored with the dual core sometime in the future I can pop in a quad easily enough. One of the big pluses here of course is that i can finally get USB3 and SATA 6GB..... hooray at last!

The case I have selected will fit my Sapphire r9 280X VapourX and for a Matx unit has some excellent cooling potential.........it's linked here.......

https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Com...ATX+Cube+Case+-+Arctic+White+?productId=58071

It will also fit my H80i nicely, now I am guessing that the dual core won't get as toasty as my i7 930 even at hopefully around 4.5gig so the last very little piece of the jigsaw is, do I need to/should I replace the H80i stock fans with something equally as effective but quieter and if so what would you suggest, I know with rads it's not just about CFM but pressure also so could someone recommend me a couple of decent 120mm's please.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Ive been debating downsizing my system a little after building my dads 'new' pc a few months back - I got him a little Fractal Design Core 1000 which is a very neat little case. Ive got at least another 2 years with this X79 probably do it then

 

[RCoon]

I am about to embark on a Matx build, I have just sold a Windforce 3x 7870 OC and have a buyer for my i7 930 and motherboard so it won't cost me anything, I am going to have a play with the Pentium Anniversary CPU (I only really surf and play just one game occasionally which is World of Tanks which is only single threaded) and I am going to pop in the Matx MSI B85 E-45 motherboard which I will flash with the modded Bios that RCoon kindly linked. The idea being that when I get bored with the dual core sometime in the future I can pop in a quad easily enough. One of the big pluses here of course is that i can finally get USB3 and SATA 6GB..... hooray at last!

The case I have selected will fit my Sapphire r9 280X VapourX and for a Matx unit has some excellent cooling potential.........it's linked here.......

https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Com...ATX+Cube+Case+-+Arctic+White+?productId=58071

It will also fit my H80i nicely, now I am guessing that the dual core won't get as toasty as my i7 930 even at hopefully around 4.5gig so the last very little piece of the jigsaw is, do I need to/should I replace the H80i stock fans with something equally as effective but quieter and if so what would you suggest, I know with rads it's not just about CFM but pressure also so could someone recommend me a couple of decent 120mm's please.

Downsizing, I find, is far more fun in terms of enthusiast builds. More challenging, and then more appreciated by the final product. The Bitfenix chassis innerds are identical to my DS, just with a different fancy looking outer shell. needless to say they are an absolute dream of a mATX case to build in. Very easily set up, nothing gets in the way anywhere. And yeah, plenty of room for that H80i.

Just ensure you have the other parts for that MSI BIOS. I know that's the base data for the BIOS, but I think there's a tool you'll need to download and use in order to flash it. Might take some googling. As far as cool 'n' quiet fans go, I've been pleasantly surprised at the enermax's @the54thvoid gave me a dozen of. They were utterly silent, but static pressure-wise they weren't exactly performance style. With the DS it keeps most fans quiet, which is why I have Dell server fans inside. The whole system probably doesn't breach much more than 35dB during full load. I'd probably just recommend the Corsair SP series, Quiet Edition. They pretty much have the best SP:Noise ratio for performance radiator fans.

On a second system, you do this to get an USB Flash Drive Bootable:

1. Download & Install this utility: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml
2. Download the DOS-Files.rar file I have attached to this posting and extract the content to a folder of your choice
3. Run the HP USB Utility with Admin rights, select "Create a DOS startup disk" and point the tool to the folder you extracted the DOS files into
4. Hit start

Your USB Flash Drive should now be bootable!

Now, stage two:

1. Download the latest BIOS
2. Extract the actual BIOS File and the flasher (AFUDE238.exe) to the root directory of your USB Flash drive

Stage three:

1. Boot from the prepared USB Flash Drive on your target system and wait until DOS is booted and you are in the command line
2. type the following command

AFUDE238 [BIOS FILE NAME HERE] /P /B /N

... and hit enter ---> that should start the flash procedure.

Once the procedure has finished, turn off your computer, unplug your PSU from A/C power and >>Clear CMOS<<.

Please make sure that your system is absolutely stable and that there are no underlying memory problems before you start the flash procedure.

EDIT: I've added an AFUDE238.exe rar file to my dropbox shared folder. It's a version I've extracted from an MSI BIOS on their FTP, hopefully it should work

 

[Tatty_Two]

Much appreciated thanks, although just to mess up very slightly all that effort you did for me..... I think I am going to go with the Asus H97M-Plus board, it's more expensive but has some decent cooling, more phases etc and should future proof better when I upgrade to a quad down the line.

Added to my basket

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp...ion=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=56344&context=

 

[RCoon]

Much appreciated thanks, although just to mess up very slightly all that effort you did for me..... I think I am going to go with the Asus H97M-Plus board, it's more expensive but has some decent cooling, more phases etc and should future proof better when I upgrade to a quad down the line.

Added to my basket

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp...ion=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=56344&context=

The plus is a really great board, that would probably be my main recommendation for budget over clocking

 

[Tatty_Two]

Actually, it's pretty silly of me to get that Asus H97 matx board when I can get the Gigabyte Z97M-D3H board for around the same price, that way I don't need to depend on the flash.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Actually, it's pretty silly of me to get that Asus H97 matx board when I can get the Gigabyte Z97M-D3H board for around the same price, that way I don't need to depend on the flash.

Maybe so,

But im more inclined to purchase MSI products because we have an active rep on these forums. Ive heard gigabyte support can be 50/50 at times

 

[Tatty_Two]

Well to be honest, having almost exclusively owned Giga boards for 10 years I never have had to contact support because the boards have always run flawlessly which I suppose in itself is a good reason to buy them! This x58 board has been running hard for almost 6 years now without issues

 

[Bo$$]

Well to be honest, having almost exclusively owned Giga boards for 10 years I never have had to contact support because the boards have always run flawlessly which I suppose in itself is a good reason to buy them! This x58 board has been running hard for almost 6 years now without issues

I personally buy MSI or Gigabyte boards with equal confidence they both are really solid and support is decent for both

 

[FreedomEclipse]

To Be Honest - I may just go 780 SLi, Prices seem to be dropping quite steadily on them and ive been given the chance to get rid of both of my 680's RIGHT NOW. so i can either sell 680s and grab one 780 for now and another when the price drops further or not bother and carry on waiting for GTX880 but then again I lose out on £340 from not selling my 680s, so i'll have to throw more money into the pot.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Ordered a B-Grade from OCuK

The card itself is a lot more sexier seeing it in person then some pic off the internet.

 

[RCoon]

Ordered a B-Grade from OCuK

The card itself is a lot more sexier seeing it in person then some pic off the internet.

290X?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

280X - This is for a friends build, was considering selling him one of my 680s (or both) but i just didnt want to cripple my system.

real nice card though..... Knowing OCuK, I just hope it works. Cost £250 including next day delivery. I would have sold my 680 for £170 or something but meh.

 

[the54thvoid]

Been in Cyprus for nearly two weeks. Need to come home to swear at BF4. Enough of this heat, I'm Scottish god damn it.
And then i need to decide, do I ditch X79 and move to Haswell E. And do I buy the gimped one or the one I really don't need?
And then decide, do I sell or donate to our crunchers my old board, CPU and memory?
Decisions, decisions.... But this heat, ffs, enough....

 

[Tatty_Two]

280X - This is for a friends build, was considering selling him one of my 680s (or both) but i just didnt want to cripple my system.

real nice card though..... Knowing OCuK, I just hope it works. Cost £250 including next day delivery. I would have sold my 680 for £170 or something but meh.

You should have said, I could have pointed you to same model @ £199.99 new.

Edit: Just checked, they only have the Rev1 VapourX in currently at 199.99 (that's still the vapour chamber but with the bigger 2 fan version), they do have a very tidy Windforce 3x Overclock model going for 201 though.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Been in Cyprus for nearly two weeks. Need to come home to swear at BF4. Enough of this heat, I'm Scottish god damn it.
And then i need to decide, do I ditch X79 and move to Haswell E. And do I buy the gimped one or the one I really don't need?
And then decide, do I sell or donate to our crunchers my old board, CPU and memory?
Decisions, decisions.... But this heat, ffs, enough....

If youre selling I could be possibly interested in buying it...

Ive always had a feeling my board was a little bit borked, dont ask me why. random things just happen and I get the feeling that something aint right with it.

Been checking out X79 boards on ebay for a while but everywhere is still doing it close to £200'ish and thats too rich for my blood, especially for an older platform.

You should have said, I could have pointed you to same model @ £199.99 new.

Edit: Just checked, they only have the Rev1 VapourX in currently at 199.99 (that's still the vapour chamber but with the bigger 2 fan version), they do have a very tidy Windforce 3x Overclock model going for 201 though.

Actually it was £199 - vat came to 41.80... Not sure if thats legit.

::EDIT::

Well it doesnt matter as its not my money lol

 

[RCoon]

Been in Cyprus for nearly two weeks. Need to come home to swear at BF4. Enough of this heat, I'm Scottish god damn it.
And then i need to decide, do I ditch X79 and move to Haswell E. And do I buy the gimped one or the one I really don't need?
And then decide, do I sell or donate to our crunchers my old board, CPU and memory?
Decisions, decisions.... But this heat, ffs, enough....

I have haswell refresh but fully intend to go for haswell-e low end 6 core with a decent matx board once I've saved the money. After that it's an 880 once the price levels, and a more economical car in February. Do it once, do it right I say. That's why I got the platinum PSU

 

[Finners]

Been in Cyprus for nearly two weeks. Need to come home to swear at BF4. Enough of this heat, I'm Scottish god damn it.
And then i need to decide, do I ditch X79 and move to Haswell E. And do I buy the gimped one or the one I really don't need?
And then decide, do I sell or donate to our crunchers my old board, CPU and memory?
Decisions, decisions.... But this heat, ffs, enough....

Nope sell it to me! will go nice with my new 290!

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Nope sell it to me! will go nice with my new 290!

I call dibs.

 

[RCoon]

The more games I play on my system the less I think buying Haswell-E is worth it. There is literally nothing that has made me question my system's performance, I'm wondering if there is any point.
I even got into Silver II league in LoL last night for the first time.
I'm half tempted to switch to a Primochill Wet BeNch, but then I think to myself "what's the point?". I've got some spare monies this month, and for the first time I've not felt the need to buy any computer hardware, and nothing has remotely tempted me either. I'd like an i7 at some point, as streaming causes a bit too much load on the CPU when I'm playing pretty highly intensive games, but that's rather rare.
What do you guys think?:

 

[FreedomEclipse]

IMO - Id rather nab a cheap 2500k, 2600k or 3770k and just OC the tits off it. Nothings gonna argue with a 2500k roaring away at 5Ghz.

I just recently OC'd a clients system back to 4.5Ghz on his 2500k and it took a while for me to get to grips with all the tweaks in the bios as its been a while since ive done anything like that. 4.5ghz. 1.32v @60'c after 8hrs prime with a Corsair H75 installed using the shitty mobo PWM.

He didnt need the H75 but he threw a tonne of money at me and i pretty much went fucking nuts with his budget. For about £700'ish he burnt on it. not a huge lot was done lol but he did say go nuts so thats what i did....

His upgrades are as follows...

B-Grade 280X = £250
512GB Crucial MX100 = £150
8GB Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz Ram = £70
2x Akasa Apache fans = £35
1TB WD Blue = £40
Corsair Hydro H75 = £60
2x Akasa 2.5/3.5 inch to 5.25 inch Mounting Adapter = £12
4x DEMCiflex dust filters = £27

Postage is not included with the exception of the B-Grade 280X --- that was included here.


I pulled out | Replaced:

Sapphire 1GB 6870
8GB Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz kit (Faulty)
Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler with Skt 1155 fittings

^ All these he said i could sell on and keep the profits for myself.

 

[the54thvoid]

The more games I play on my system the less I think buying Haswell-E is worth it. There is literally nothing that has made me question my system's performance, I'm wondering if there is any point.
I even got into Silver II league in LoL last night for the first time.
I'm half tempted to switch to a Primochill Wet BeNch, but then I think to myself "what's the point?". I've got some spare monies this month, and for the first time I've not felt the need to buy any computer hardware, and nothing has remotely tempted me either. I'd like an i7 at some point, as streaming causes a bit too much load on the CPU when I'm playing pretty highly intensive games, but that's rather rare.
What do you guys think?:

Hmm....

It's an aesthetic. I (as you know!) sold off my old Silverstone case and got a Dimastech test bench. Now with my quick disconnects on I have easy upgrade options but like you I hesitate to do anything. The test bench allows for easy and wide ranging upgrading, plus looks cool as christmas. I did buy a custom built acrylic cover for mine though, keeps it safe from physical harm and looks the biz.

If I do upgrade I'll need to see evidence that Haswell-E is worth it over Sandy-E. I use my PC for gaming mostly and know fine well SB-E is overkill for most things. I will get a 4K monitor when I decide gfx power is up to it without using a billion watts of power so it may be that I opt for two 880's which might work better with Haswell-E. I've had a PC fund going for years so I have the cash and with old age upon me my PC fund is in danger of being spent on Boiler replacements or shitty life stuff. I may need to spend simply to stop my money going into boring housy stuff.

FFS, last December i used 2.5k from my PC fund for my Hernia Op. Soon it'll be for replacement hips..... Must spend on nice things...... before it's too late. Besides, I figure Haswell-E platform should last easy into 5 years? I've had Sandy for 3 years (come November) and it still kicks ass.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Hmm....

It's an aesthetic. I (as you know!) sold off my old Silverstone case and got a Dimastech test bench. Now with my quick disconnects on I have easy upgrade options but like you I hesitate to do anything. The test bench allows for easy and wide ranging upgrading, plus looks cool as christmas. I did buy a custom built acrylic cover for mine though, keeps it safe from physical harm and looks the biz.

If I do upgrade I'll need to see evidence that Haswell-E is worth it over Sandy-E. I use my PC for gaming mostly and know fine well SB-E is overkill for most things. I will get a 4K monitor when I decide gfx power is up to it without using a billion watts of power so it may be that I opt for two 880's which might work better with Haswell-E. I've had a PC fund going for years so I have the cash and with old age upon me my PC fund is in danger of being spent on Boiler replacements or shitty life stuff. I may need to spend simply to stop my money going into boring housy stuff.

FFS, last December i used 2.5k from my PC fund for my Hernia Op. Soon it'll be for replacement hips..... Must spend on nice things...... before it's too late. Besides, I figure Haswell-E platform should last easy into 5 years? I've had Sandy for 3 years (come November) and it still kicks ass.

you gonna sell your 780Ti too??

 

[the54thvoid]

lol....

That really all depends on Maxwell...

I don't think of you, or Finners for that matter, as vultures. More like the invisible nesting birds from Dark Souls II.... "bring me shiny, bring me smooth"

 

[RCoon]

lol....

That really all depends on Maxwell...

I don't think of you, or Finners for that matter, as vultures. More like the invisible nesting birds from Dark Souls II.... "bring me shiny, bring me smooth"

show us some pics of that sweet ass rig. make me want that test bench!