i need a replacement socket lga 771 motherboard for my server/gaming rig.

[stoggs1]

Hello everyone, i need to replace the mother board in my server pc which is an hpxw 8400 workstation, here is a link http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en...851.html?dnr=2.

i have been looking around for a replacement board for under 50$ and i found this on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PRECISI...item5b03ab4d10.

could i use that board with my system, and if i can would it have any issues with a zotac nvidia gtx 570?

thanks in advance and i would definatly appreciate any feedback.

 

[Aquinus]

Your links are broken. It may work but it really depends on CPU support on the new motherboard your getting and the CPU you'll be dropping into it.

 

[stoggs1]

hey thanks for the reply. il repost the links http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/e...2132712-12132712-12431664-80699851.html?dnr=2 thats my pc.

now here is the motherboard which is from a dell precision 690 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precis...495500653?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3392291f6d.

they both have dual lga 771 sockets, i just want to know if there would any compatibility issues. and if my gtx 570 will work with that motherboard

 

[Aquinus]

The motherboard size isn't standard on the Precision desktop board. I'm unsure what chassis it can fit into.

 

[stoggs1]

My chassis is a full tower server case, it's pretty massive weighs almost 50 lbs with out any parts in it

 

[Bo$$]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-HP-...620051183?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3a95b948ef


this will work fine with your case usb and stuff, if you replace with another brand it won't work

 

[stoggs1]

Hey thanks man for that one, il def look into that one but y wouldn't the dell board work? Just curios

 

[Bo$$]

Hey thanks man for that one, il def look into that one but y wouldn't the dell board work? Just curios

the pins on your case front panel, USB, audio and case fans are different, HP use a different setup, i have the same board but it won't work unless you use a HP case, otherwise you have to hit F1 to confirm on every boot

 

[stoggs1]

Hitting f1 wouldn't be an issue if that would be my only problem. I'm not trying to be cheap but money is pretty tight for me at the moment

 

[Bo$$]

Hitting f1 wouldn't be an issue if that would be my only problem. I'm not trying to be cheap but money is pretty tight for me at the moment

Well thats what the HP does, i cannot speak for the dell. all I will say is, the dell looks like a slightly different fit. your mileage may vary, it could work fine, it might not work at all... it's your choice now

If you were in the UK i'd would have sent you one for postage costs

 

[stoggs1]

ok so i guess my next question would be then if the board would fit in my case, would have any other issues? i'm pretty sure that my case is defanitly big enough and would have more than enough space for that board.

 

[Bo$$]

dell sometimes use non-standard sizes, most of the holes should be fine but it could be a problem

 

[stoggs1]

Thanx for the input boss, I appreciate the feedback. I'll do some more research before I make my purchase. And one last question and this applies to both boards, would I need to have all of the motherboard case mount screws for it to properly grounded? I may have lost one when I took out the original board when I was trying to repair it.

 

[OneMoar]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperMicro-...96616?pt=US_Server_Boards&hash=item540eca5f88
so you get two xeons 2gb of ddr and a motherboard for ~60.00USD

 

[stoggs1]

O that's a really good deal, does that board have PCI x 16 slot? I can't see in that pic and posting from my phone. And 2 quad cores, that would scream but would it give me better performance over two 3ghz dual core xeons in games that aren't multi threaded for more than 4 cores since those quads are 2.3ghz?

 

[OneMoar]

they are pci-e 8 won't impact performance much if at all tho
depending on the game performance may improve or be worse generally higher clocks are more desirable how ever games such as planetside 2 that can use 8 cores will show a improvemetn
you can always install 1 3Ghz dual and one 2.66Ghz quad
if you want it you better order it I may beat you to it
honestly you are in what I call upgrade-limbo and really should be looking into a new build and and then repair the old workstation after

 

[Bo$$]

I have this board also, The PCi-e is fine on this board, ran a 6970 on it for some months

 

[stoggs1]

Ok so my 570 will work with that super micro board then and next year if I decide to get a gtx 760, 770 or 860 etc would I have an issue using any of those cards with that board? If not that may be the one I go with. Although I have asked about a board with with PCI x 8 slot on another forum and they said it wouldn't physically fit my 570.

 

[OneMoar]

Ok so my 570 will work with that super micro board then and next year if I decide to get a gtx 760, 770 or 860 etc would I have an issue using any of those cards with that board? If not that may be the one I go with. Although I have asked about a board with with PCI x 8 slot on another forum and they said it wouldn't physically fit my 570.

you are gonna be cpu limited even with the 570 most games simply can't use 8 cores effectively the lower clock speed is gonna hurt you in games that can't use more then 4 cores For rendering or crunching related task's it will be ok gaming depending on the title will be a whole different ball-game
and yes it will fit just fine who ever said you can't use a 16x card in a 8x slot doesn't know what they are talking about
old system is old is it worth throwing 50.00 bucks at to fix up sure it is worth spending 600.00 bucks on a gpu NO way in hell
1. its a dead socket with a old unsupported chipset
2. its DDR2
3. its expansion capability is limited the fastest xeon's you can get for that board is the X5470(3.3Ghz about 50.00 to 70.00 EACH used) and you only have 1 PCIe 2.0 8x slot

 

[stoggs1]

Why wouldn't it be worth upgrading my goin in the future? When I first got this PC I had a 5850 then 2 years later I got my 570 and I saw a very significant gpu performance increase. I would upgrade the CPUs and ram alongside the gpu to reduce bottle necking. I was planning on getting 2 3 ghz quad xeons and 16 gigs of ram next year and a 2 or 3 gig dx 11 nvidia gpu

 

[OneMoar]

Why wouldn't it be worth upgrading my goin in the future? When I first got this PC I had a 5850 then 2 years later I got my 570 and I saw a very significant gpu performance increase. I would upgrade the CPUs and ram alongside the gpu to reduce bottle necking. I was planning on getting 2 3 ghz quad xeons and 16 gigs of ram next year and a 3 gig dx 11 nvidia gpu

its 771 its a DEAD Socket you have no upgrade path your only option would be a used pair of X547's 0 and as much DDR2 as you can pick out of the garbage a a single core i5 4670k would wall all over it for gaming
you are already bottle necking that 570 gpu with what you had duel socket systems of that era are inefficient due to limitations with the frontside buss and the way both cpu's exchange data

 

[stoggs1]

The 771 may be a dead socket but when my PC was up and running it ran evey current PC game at or near max settings including crysis 1,2 and 3, far cry 3, battlefield 3 &4 etc. il be honest I was only gaming at 720 p though because that was my native res and I figured with to quad cores, 16 gigs of ram and a gpu upgrade il get even better performance

 

[XL-R8R]

For the price you'd pay for the mentioned pair of 771 quads, the amount of RAM you want and a new GPU, you may as well pile that money into buying a current-gen Intel/AMD system and keep your GTX570.


Your resolution wont really demand much more than your current card can give but your overall system performance will be greatly improved by upgrading to the newer platform... as OneMoar already stated...... and it'll also unlock further potential from your current card by giving it more juice in the form of faster single core and multicore performance.


Also, while -technically- correct, you wont get near as much performance out of a new graphics card and added RAM than you would by swapping platform all together..... the term "flogging a dead horse" comes to mind in this situation.


Bottom line: Its time for an upgrade.

 

[OneMoar]

for the moment I have no issue with spending 60.00 bucks getting the old girl up and running again that being said it would be pretty silly to drop ~600.00 worth of GPU in the system because the cpu will bottle neck the hell out of it

 

[XL-R8R]

Nope.... I see nothing wrong with spending $60 fixing this rig either.... so long as it doesnt somehow include 2 new Xeons, 16GB of DDR2 and "a DX11 video card".

That would be lunacy in my view.


However, spending $400 on a new 46xxK/board/RAM would be a sure fire way of extending the life of that GTX570 AND getting value for money at the same time.... you could even get a used X58/P67/Z77 platform for a lot less and be really happy upgrading from S771.


It was great in its time... it just severally shows its age these days and its time to retire that socket into a reserve rig roll or at most, server platform, like it was intended when new.