Your Haswell-E max stable OC

[dumo]

4X8GB and 4x4GB Hynix tests, cpu on h20

1.35V


1.47V



1.65V

 

[dumo]

-11C @ cpu



4.5Ghz cache on 32GB

 

[EarthDog]

Great thread! How about a summary of results in the first post...............................this thread will get full of results and its a huge PITA to sort through a thread with hundreds of posts for results.

 

[springs113]

Great thread! How about a summary of results in the first post...............................this thread will get full of results and its a huge PITA to sort through a thread with hundreds of posts for results.

I wanna do it similar to how Dave did the Haswell oc guide but I need the members to follow the guidelines and I need to find a little more time, 2 jobs, only driver in the household, and 1 yr old who has hit the terrible 2s super early lol. In due time.


Edit: My PSUs/5930/Sandisk xtreme pro comes in today so I will now have the chance to do a side by side comparison of both lower end processors and corsair dom/g skill ram. Being that I just received another 290, I think I will be selecting the 5930 over the 5820 just on lanes alone. I'm so excited I feel like a kid being left alone in a candy store...I can't wait to see you guys and your builds, your joy is my joy.

 

[buildzoid]

Well I've made up my mind so I'll be ordering an X99 FTW as soon as they come in stock on the EVGA webstore.

 

[EarthDog]

I wanna do it similar to how Dave did the Haswell oc guide but I need the members to follow the guidelines and I need to find a little more time, 2 jobs, only driver in the household, and 1 yr old who has hit the terrible 2s super early lol. In due time.


Edit: My PSUs/5930/Sandisk xtreme pro comes in today so I will now have the chance to do a side by side comparison of both lower end processors and corsair dom/g skill ram. Being that I just received another 290, I think I will be selecting the 5930 over the 5820 just on lanes alone. I'm so excited I feel like a kid being left alone in a candy store...I can't wait to see you guys and your builds, your joy is my joy.

I guess I would only start it if I had the time to do it right... oh well. Thanks for your efforts when you can. they are appreciated.

Why would you do that for two cards (buy 5930K?) that makes no sense at all. tri/quad, sure... worth it. Otherwise, there are plenty of lanes to to support two cards with negligible performance losses.

 

[GhostRyder]

Phase count is not as important on haswell-e because of intel's FIVR also if EVGA use 8 40A phases the VRM will be good for up to 576W. I actually want to do an experiment to see if you can't raise the MB VRM voltage output to lower current output and increase efficiency and what it does to the output voltages of the FIVR because if I could run the MB VRM at 2V and the FIVR would still output safe voltages you could lower the strain on the VRM by ~11% or more if you used an even higher voltage.

I was more referencing the fact that MSI use very high quality high capacity capacitors in their boards especially when it comes to the top OC boards (Xpower). The inclusion of 12 phase is intended for heavy clocking as alot of LN2 people go for those Xpower boards.

Oh and to add to the thread, first attempt at overclocking on my new system got me 4.5ghz stable. Ill post my CPU-Z once I get home but i'm probably going to really push it tonight!

 

[springs113]

I guess I would only start it if I had the time to do it right... oh well. Thanks for your efforts when you can. they are appreciated.

Why would you do that for two cards (buy 5930K?) that makes no sense at all. tri/quad, sure... worth it. Otherwise, there are plenty of lanes to to support two cards with negligible performance losses.

I already have 2 290s...I was referring to my 3rd and I forgot to mention therapy from my car accident that takes up much of my time, I know what Dave is going through in regards to time cause it's the same over here but in the coming days/weeks once I finish my build the exact way I want to I will have more time.
Hey if you have the time I don't mind you taking over, I don't mind it at all I just want everyone to share their experiences because that's is how I became a member here. I stumbled on some random read, thought it was interesting and I've been here ever since. I would like others to experience the same that's all.

I was more referencing the fact that MSI use very high quality high capacity capacitors in their boards especially when it comes to the top OC boards (Xpower). The inclusion of 12 phase is intended for heavy clocking as alot of LN2 people go for those Xpower boards.

Oh and to add to the thread, first attempt at overclocking on my new system got me 4.5ghz stable. Ill post my CPU-Z once I get home but i'm probably going to really push it tonight!

Don't go over doing now lol.
Then again what are we here for...max it out

 

[buildzoid]

I was more referencing the fact that MSI use very high quality high capacity capacitors in their boards especially when it comes to the top OC boards (Xpower). The inclusion of 12 phase is intended for heavy clocking as alot of LN2 people go for those Xpower boards.

Oh and to add to the thread, first attempt at overclocking on my new system got me 4.5ghz stable. Ill post my CPU-Z once I get home but i'm probably going to really push it tonight!

I know lots of people go for Xpower boards with LN2 but with OCing boards you tend to get a clear winner for X79 that was the RIVE and RIVBE for X99 it has yet to be decided but since Haswell-e has the FIVR the VRM quality matters much less than on X79 and I don't mind mind saving 3000CZK on a cheaper board if the only features I will lose are the better audio and few buttons that till now I've survived without. Also I can't stand yellow.

Also nice but on what CPU is that?

 

[GhostRyder]

I know lots of people go for Xpower boards with LN2 but with OCing boards you tend to get a clear winner for X79 that was the RIVE and RIVBE for X99 it has yet to be decided but since Haswell-e has the FIVR the VRM quality matters much less than on X79 and I don't mind mind saving 3000CZK on a cheaper board if the only features I will lose are the better audio and few buttons that till now I've survived without. Also I can't stand yellow.

Also nice but on what CPU is that?

5930K

I think this round may be interesting with the OC socket on the Asus boards to see who gets the gold overclocker award.

 

[EarthDog]

MEH on the OC socket... seriously.

 

[Random Murderer]

MEH on the OC socket... seriously.

You say that now, but apparently it allows the onboard VRMs to take over and bypass the FIVRs, allowing for better OC headroom. Not sure if I believe it myself, but everything I've seen so far points to it actually being a help.

 

[buildzoid]

You say that now, but apparently it allows the onboard VRMs to take over and bypass the FIVRs, allowing for better OC headroom. Not sure if I believe it myself, but everything I've seen so far points to it actually being a help.

Eh from what I read it allows to drive higher FIVR(2V instead of 1.8V) output voltages and higher input voltages(2.7V instead of 2V?). I really doubt it would let you disable the FIVR since the FIVR generates 4 or 5 different voltages but the motherboard is only capable of producing 1.

 

[THE_EGG]

Wow some great stuff here. I'm seriously, seriously tempted to go to a 5930k. X99 mobos are ridiculously expensive here compared to the US though. Even using AUD pricing on Newegg, an Asus X99-Deluxe is $430AUD whereas to buy it locally I'm looking at $580AUD+. :'( I can live with paying extra for DDR4 though, I was expecting that.
Still trying to find more reviews on Gigabyte's UD4 mobo as I'm probably going to end up going with that.

In fact I was so psyched about X99 I went and bought a Corsair H110 today lol. Now it's just sitting on the floor doing nothing until I decide I'm ready to make the financial commitment to upgrade to X99. Definitely excited to make a return to CPU overclocking too.

@springs113 looking forward to seeing your 5930k in action and how it goes overclocking

Dave's one looks pretty good so far!

 

[buildzoid]

Wow some great stuff here. I'm seriously, seriously tempted to go to a 5930k. X99 mobos are ridiculously expensive here compared to the US though. Even using AUD pricing on Newegg, an Asus X99-Deluxe is $430AUD whereas to buy it locally I'm looking at $580AUD+. :'( I can live with paying extra for DDR4 though, I was expecting that.
Still trying to find more reviews on Gigabyte's UD4 mobo as I'm probably going to end up going with that.

In fact I was so psyched about X99 I went and bought a Corsair H110 today lol. Now it's just sitting on the floor doing nothing until I decide I'm ready to make the financial commitment to upgrade to X99. Definitely excited to make a return to CPU overclocking too.

@springs113 looking forward to seeing your 5930k in action and how it goes overclocking

Dave's one looks pretty good so far!

Asus's X99-A has a better VRM than the UD4 if you care about that.

 

[Random Murderer]

Eh from what I read it allows to drive higher FIVR(2V instead of 1.8V) output voltages and higher input voltages(2.7V instead of 2V?). I really doubt it would let you disable the FIVR since the FIVR generates 4 or 5 different voltages but the motherboard is only capable of producing 1.

This makes more sense to me. Not really sure how it works, but it is already showing a bit of a lead. It'll be interesting to see if that advantage remains once the BIOSes of X99 boards start maturing more and we see what the platform is really capable of.

 

[springs113]

Wow some great stuff here. I'm seriously, seriously tempted to go to a 5930k. X99 mobos are ridiculously expensive here compared to the US though. Even using AUD pricing on Newegg, an Asus X99-Deluxe is $430AUD whereas to buy it locally I'm looking at $580AUD+. :'( I can live with paying extra for DDR4 though, I was expecting that.
Still trying to find more reviews on Gigabyte's UD4 mobo as I'm probably going to end up going with that.

In fact I was so psyched about X99 I went and bought a Corsair H110 today lol. Now it's just sitting on the floor doing nothing until I decide I'm ready to make the financial commitment to upgrade to X99. Definitely excited to make a return to CPU overclocking too.

@springs113 looking forward to seeing your 5930k in action and how it goes overclocking

Dave's one looks pretty good so far!

I also have a 5820k @4.6ghz 1.28v

If I were you I would go with a swiftech h220x(if available), if you ever wanted to change or add to your loop you get a top of the line waterblock (customisable too) and a very strong pump. I chose not to use the pump and bought a standalone. It is not much more than a h110.

As far as mobos go look at the following:
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/560...eview-new-boards-for-haswell-e-final-thoughts

 

[buildzoid]

This makes more sense to me. Not really sure how it works, but it is already showing a bit of a lead. It'll be interesting to see if that advantage remains once the BIOSes of X99 boards start maturing more and we see what the platform is really capable of.

The other thing I missed is that the OC sockets gives you the ability to shut down specific cores and gives you better access to FIVR controller it also has a few more GND and PWR pins and helps with the BCLK. There really is no way that an 8 phase VRM could replace the entire FIVR.

 

[cadaveca]

You say that now, but apparently it allows the onboard VRMs to take over and bypass the FIVRs, allowing for better OC headroom. Not sure if I believe it myself, but everything I've seen so far points to it actually being a help.

It's not about just allowing MORE, it's about allowing for LESS DROOP which = more CURRENT.

MEH on the OC socket... seriously.

Get a bunch of boards, I'm sure you'll find the same as I did. I will step out and say brand-wise, ASUS is NOT my favorite right now, and hasn't been for some time. BIOSes are too prone to corruption, and I find the N.A. support region to be greatly lacking. Plus other stuff I won't talk about. But I have noticed enough of a difference with this X99 Deluxe to ignore those issues, when it comes to hardcore OC.


How many boards have you played with so far? I am really hoping that other brands can pull out some BIOS magic to match what ASUS delivers right now, but am skeptical. Honestly, MSI is my favorite brand right now, Gigabyte is really good too... waiting on new BIOSes from them to maybe change my opinion about the whole subject. The X99S GAMING 7 is a great board...but doesn't OC like the ASUS does. If you want to run 24/7, yeah, meh, but if you want to benchmark...the only choice right now is ASUS.

I have RVE and X99 WS booked for review. Will be adding more MSI as time goes on and I get what I have for reviews done, but until I have consistent answer about OC, I won't talk about that other than what I've already said, and will mention a bit in the ASUS review. I really wanted MSI to win...but they don't right now.

 

[THE_EGG]

I also have a 5820k @4.6ghz 1.28v

If I were you I would go with a swiftech h220x(if available), if you ever wanted to change or add to your loop you get a top of the line waterblock (customisable too) and a very strong pump. I chose not to use the pump and bought a standalone. It is not much more than a h110.

As far as mobos go look at the following:
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5600/17/15-intel-x99-motherboards-review-new-boards-for-haswell-e-final-thoughts

I've already bought the H110, unfortunately the H220x isn't available at any of my local shops. Also I've read that the H110 is pretty quiet for an AIO which is what I'm after mostly while still being able to provide great performance.

Thanks for the link. The ASRock Extreme4 looked promising and it is quite a bit cheaper but I've read some bad stories (albeit only a couple) of their newer X99 boards having stability issues. Specifically with high RAM speeds and PCI-e cards not working properly in some slots. It could be BIOS related and fixed in the future, but I think i'll avoid this one.

Asus's X99-A has a better VRM than the UD4 if you care about that.

Oh awesome, I just read that it is now available to buy. I think I'll probably go for that one then. The only bad thing is that I can't use my sound card without suffocating a 780 but I can probably work around that and just rely on my receiver to clean up the signal for the speakers and use my old Xonar U1 for headphones or the headphone output on the receiver.
The Gigabyte X99 Gaming 5 looks ok too, especially having the burr-brown amp and also optimal slot layout like the UD4. Though I'd probably still end up with the UD4 as it seems to be otherwise identical and it has Intel gigabit which I'd prefer over a Killer based one on the Gaming5.
Soooooo many choices! I'm thinking I've narrowed it down to Asus X99-A or Gigabyte X99-UD4. They both seem pretty solid.

Also just out of curiosity, would any of you guys know what kind of overclock deficit I would have if I bought a Gigabyte board over the Asus X99-A (as far as the Gigabyte boards not having the OC Socket and also 2 less phases)?

 

[springs113]

Taken from Legitreviews insight of the the Gigabyte Soc.

"The most interesting thing about the Gigabyte GA-X99-SOC Force LN2 motherboard is the special LGA2011-v3 socket that is being used. Gigabyte went with a special CPU socket on this board that has more pins than a traditional socket. Gigabyte said that this has been shown to improve overclocking and they are trying it out on this board due to the fact that it is aimed at breaking overclocking records.

This socket looks very similar to the patent-pending ASUS OC Socket that ASUS is using on all of their X99 motherboards. From what we gather Intel had a number of pins on the Haswell-E processors for R&D testing purposes that weren’t needed for normal operation. Intel did not fuse off or internally disable the pads on the processor, so companies like ASUS and Gigabyte are now doing some reverse engineering and enabling their functionality. When ASUS first announced the OC socket there was some discussion if it would void Intel’s processor warranties, but it looks like it does not. We do know that Intel is actively looking into what the OC socket does as they didn’t plan on motherboard makers to come out with boards that have enabled more pins than planned. Intel could possibly make some changes down the road if needed."


Read more at http://www.legitreviews.com/gigabyt...2011-v3-cpu-socket_150125#C0qkY0Vy0wzHPrJA.99

 

[buildzoid]

I've already bought the H110, unfortunately the H220x isn't available at any of my local shops. Also I've read that the H110 is pretty quiet for an AIO which is what I'm after mostly while still being able to provide great performance.

Thanks for the link. The ASRock Extreme4 looked promising and it is quite a bit cheaper but I've read some bad stories (albeit only a couple) of their newer X99 boards having stability issues. Specifically with high RAM speeds and PCI-e cards not working properly in some slots. It could be BIOS related and fixed in the future, but I think i'll avoid this one.


Oh awesome, I just read that it is now available to buy. I think I'll probably go for that one then. The only bad thing is that I can't use my sound card without suffocating a 780 but I can probably work around that and just rely on my receiver to clean up the signal for the speakers and use my old Xonar U1 for headphones or the headphone output on the receiver.
The Gigabyte X99 Gaming 5 looks ok too, especially having the burr-brown amp and also optimal slot layout like the UD4. Though I'd probably still end up with the UD4 as it seems to be otherwise identical and it has Intel gigabit which I'd prefer over a Killer based one on the Gaming5.
Soooooo many choices! I'm thinking I've narrowed it down to Asus X99-A or Gigabyte X99-UD4. They both seem pretty solid.

Also just out of curiosity, would any of you guys know what kind of overclock deficit I would have if I bought a Gigabyte board over the Asus X99-A (as far as the Gigabyte boards not having the OC Socket and also 2 less phases)?

Overclock deficit wise I really doubt that you would have one since as I said before a 6 40A phases are able to feed 400W to any Haswell-e CPU with relative ease the OC socket is probably a much bigger deal than the phase count.

 

[MetalRacer]

I haven't had much time to play with this setup so I'm all over the place with it trying different combinations.

 

[OneMoar]

1.5V Jesus ... what are you cooling it with

 

[cadaveca]

1.5V Jesus ... what are you cooling it with

He's probably just blowing on it. Haswell-E runs pretty cool, actually, surprisingly cool. Makes me think that my opinion that SKT1150 isn't meant for enthusiasts, well, is the truth.

I haven't had much time to play with this setup so I'm all over the place with it trying different combinations.

I see you found the usefulness of cache clocking. THAT makes me wonder how high normal Haswell would go with suc ha lowered cache speed... Haswell-E has definitely upped the OC game.