Intel E2160 and E2140 soon

[D_o_S]

Intel plans to reveal two new Core 2 Duo based CPUs just days before Computex, specifically on the 3rd of June.

The E2160 is clocked at 1.8 GHz with FSB 800 and a total 1 MB of cache memory. This CPU will retail for ~$84.

The E2140 is the slower part, running at 1.6 GHZ with FSB 800 and 1 MB cache. Both CPUs are basically Core 2 Duo parts with 1 MB cache memory.

The CPUs have already been spotted in the wild:


View at TechPowerUp Main Site

 

[Eric_Cartman]

another cheap core 2 duo with a multiplier of 9, this might be my next processor to replace my 805

i can see the e2160 hitting 3.6ghz just like the e6600 and e4300

1mb of l2 will hurt performance, but for $85 i can handle it, especially once it hits 3.6ghz

 

[Zalmann]

Budget C2D => Celery.

 

[grazzhoppa]

I am looking forward to seeing the benchmarks for these comparing them to $80 AMD Athlon X2 CPUs.

 

[ghost101]

Budget C2D => Celery.

I believe theyll have the Pentium moniker.

The new celerons or conroe-L cpus will be single core.

edit: infact its in the screenshot

 

[dmce]

Anyone know about power comsumption?

 

[Eric_Cartman]

I believe theyll have the Pentium moniker.

The new celerons or conroe-L cpus will be single core.

i believe the new celerons or conroe-l cpus will in fact be dual core, it was reported here a few weeks ago, intel did it to compete with amd's announcement that their next set of semprons will be dual core

 

[bruins004]

These are to battle with AMDs low end Dual Core CPUs (mainly the X2 3600+ and the X2 3800+)

 

[Saurian]

Lets stop and think about this.

Intel is releasing these ultra-low cost, cut down C2D chips to compete with the X2 series. No longer bearing the cache advantage like they normally do, and lacking the advancements AMD has made in their less cache, but same/more performnace - Intel will have trouble.

The other deciding factor in the budget market is the mainboard. Sure, you can get this baby Conroe/Allendale for 85 dollars(still 20 dollars more then the lowest X2), but where are you going to get the board? You can buy a board that overclocks the 3600+ into 4800+-5200+ territory for less then 85 dollars. In order to bring that 85 dollar Intel processor that high, you're still looking at spending 115 or more for a featureless, bare bones board like the S3, not even the DS3. Whereas that AM2 socketed 85 dollar board for the 3600+ still has features and is quite capable. Case in point: Abit KN9S.

It's a step in the right direction. I'll build my 145 dollar 3600+/KN9S system until I can get the 85 dollar intel to go along with a 99 dollar board that performs with such high FSB's like the S3 does.

 

[bruins004]

Lets stop and think about this.

Intel is releasing these ultra-low cost, cut down C2D chips to compete with the X2 series. No longer bearing the cache advantage like they normally do, and lacking the advancements AMD has made in their less cache, but same/more performnace - Intel will have trouble.

The other deciding factor in the budget market is the mainboard. Sure, you can get this baby Conroe/Allendale for 85 dollars(still 20 dollars more then the lowest X2), but where are you going to get the board? You can buy a board that overclocks the 3600+ into 4800+-5200+ territory for less then 85 dollars. In order to bring that 85 dollar Intel processor that high, you're still looking at spending 115 or more for a featureless, bare bones board like the S3, not even the DS3. Whereas that AM2 socketed 85 dollar board for the 3600+ still has features and is quite capable. Case in point: Abit KN9S.

It's a step in the right direction. I'll build my 145 dollar 3600+/KN9S system until I can get the 85 dollar intel to go along with a 99 dollar board that performs with such high FSB's like the S3 does.

I agree with you.
Also, just to note, the cheapest X2 proc out there now is the X2 3600+ which goes for about $65-70.
The X2 3800+ now goes for about $80-85.
So they are at the exact same price as these new C2Ds.
But I agree AMD will prob. win here due to the quality budget boards they have.
Hell the Biostar TForce 550 board is $80 and OCs like a beast

 

[Eric_Cartman]

Lets stop and think about this.

Intel is releasing these ultra-low cost, cut down C2D chips to compete with the X2 series. No longer bearing the cache advantage like they normally do, and lacking the advancements AMD has made in their less cache, but same/more performnace - Intel will have trouble.

The other deciding factor in the budget market is the mainboard. Sure, you can get this baby Conroe/Allendale for 85 dollars(still 20 dollars more then the lowest X2), but where are you going to get the board? You can buy a board that overclocks the 3600+ into 4800+-5200+ territory for less then 85 dollars. In order to bring that 85 dollar Intel processor that high, you're still looking at spending 115 or more for a featureless, bare bones board like the S3, not even the DS3. Whereas that AM2 socketed 85 dollar board for the 3600+ still has features and is quite capable. Case in point: Abit KN9S.

It's a step in the right direction. I'll build my 145 dollar 3600+/KN9S system until I can get the 85 dollar intel to go along with a 99 dollar board that performs with such high FSB's like the S3 does.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130052

that $87 board hits 333+mhz reliably when paired with a core 2 duo, that puts the $85 E2160 @ 3+GHz

who knows how much the cache will affect the performance, the days of netburst is gone, so hopefully the days of intel processors heavily relying on l2 cache went with it

so far everything i have seen talks about a very minimal impact on performance when going from 4mb to 2mb, so hopefully going from 2mb to 1mb is just as minimal

 

[ghost101]

i believe the new celerons or conroe-l cpus will in fact be dual core, it was reported here a few weeks ago, intel did it to compete with amd's announcement that their next set of semprons will be dual core

These are the celerons
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6882

These are the ones mentioned in the news
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6765

 

[Eric_Cartman]

These are the celerons
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6882

These are the ones mentioned in the news
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6765

ah i stand corrected, i could have sworn i read that intel had dual core celerons in the works though, oh well

 

[bruins004]

ah i stand corrected, i could have sworn i read that intel had dual core celerons in the works though, oh well

I think that was just a rumor.
I hope so....Cant imagine how slow those would be

 

[Eric_Cartman]

i'm sure they would be faster than my current processor

 

[Tatty_Two]

Anyways, clock for clock, despite the lower L2 cache the new C2d's will still be quicker but where they may have problems is some apps and gaming where AMD remains IMO still strong, some would say faster aint always better!

Having said all that, I am sure Intel have their hands on plenty of 3600's and 3800's to compare them with, I find it hard to beleive that they will release new chips with a retail price that whilst good, is still a little more than the direct competition without them actually being better.

 

[PVTCaboose1337]

Really cheap... and I like the phrase: Spotted in the wild... rofl

 

[tkpenalty]

YES!!! My prediction of the Core 2 Pentium has come true... time to make a PC for only $500 that can play oblivion without fail . However, I think intel prices it so cheap due to the fact us overclockers make like a tiny majority of the people who purchase Processors from them, thus the extra overhead is only for us to discover, average joes dont even care about overclocking.

Just remember guys, these babies use a lesser quality core than the standard Allendales and Conroes, its a high chance that they are likely to overclock less than a normal Conroe/Allendale. The Allendale series still has more proccys soon... Us "Conroer's" are actually using high-end chips when you compare to the rest of the people. E4xxxx series and E2xxxx series will be popular for OEM and I might get one as a backup (Clocked at 1.86Ghz lol)

 

[Wile E]

Interesting announcement indeed. I'll wait until they're actually tested for overclocking before I make my final judgment, however.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Awesome prices and Im willing to bet these will overclock to 3.0GHZ no problem.

 

[Saurian]

I still have to disagree. That board that was linked, appears to be worthless. And, its a barebones, stripped POS of a board. Also, only overclocks your chip 25% of the way. But, that's fine. Lets work with it.

E2160 1.86Ghz - 85 dollars
MSI P965 Neo-F - 87 dollars

Ok, so it can go up to 333Mhz FSB for 1333Mhz total FSB quadpump. That's cool, for 172 you can overclock your proc 25% - I don't know how you're getting that this will hit 3ghz on this board. I don't know the board, maybe I'm missing something here. Still, lets continue.

AMD 3600+ Brisbane 1.9Ghz - 65 dollars
Motherboard.......Hmm. Good question. You've posted about a bottom of the barrel, no frills board. You can get ECS AM2 boards that will still bring the Brisbane to 2.5Ghz, which happens to be about 25% overclock. You can also get those motherboards for ~50-60 dollars.

But, lets go ahead and stick with the 87 dollar price range. This Abit is 86 dollars SHIPPED. So, its at your door for less then the cost of the MSI board that you still have to pay shipping. That board also has a great feature set. It has a full passive cooling system to keep things cool. It doesn't have some horrid (HORRID) Jmicron controller to replace what Intel was stupid enough to take out. It also supports raid natively, while the MSI board supports raid only between the Jmicron sata and the ide - who does that? Oh yeah, that board ought to also be able to take the 3600 Brisbane up into the 2.75-3Ghz range, too. And its not ugly, to boot.

So, to recap. You can pay 172 dollars for a problematic board that offers no frills and brings your cut down Intel processor to 333Mhz FSB. Or, for ~150 dollars you can buy the 3600+/KN9S combo and run the processor easily between 2.5 and 3Ghz, have a quality board that isn't featureless, and most of all not have that horrid Jmicron chip to deal with.

You can even have a combination for ~120 with a cheaper ECS or other cheap board which is similarly no-frills to run the 3600+ on, and hit the same 25% or so overclock. AND, you still aren't going to be dealing with the Jmicron disaster that haunts the P965 in the budget segment.

I'm sorry to take this somewhat out of topic, but I'm just trying to underscore the point. This Intel chip will likely be pretty awesome, and I'm sure the demand will be high enough that they will use good chips to power these, along with some of the chips that were low binned for failure of something or another. But, without Intel dropping the price of their chipsets to allow the consumer to get access to quality budget boards - they're in a tough place in the budget segment.

 

[Eric_Cartman]

i don't think someone that doesn't even know how to figure clock speeds need to be arguing over overclocking potential of parts

i'll walk you through it

the e2160 has a fsb of 200mhz(quad-pumped to 800mhz) and a final clock speed of 1.8ghz

1800mhz/200mhz=9

this means the e2160 has a multiplier of 9, like the e4300 and e6600

now, if you have a 333mhz fsb and have a multiplier of 9 can anyone in the class tell me what the final speed of the processor will be? thats right, 3ghz(well 2.997ghz actually, but close enough)

now can anyone tell me what percentage of an overclock that is? no saurian, it isn't 25%, nice try though

correct eric, it is actually a 66.5% overclock, very good!

as for the featureless comments about the Neo-F, the only thing it is lacking over the Abit you picked out is onboard RAID, which no one should use anyway since onboard RAID is garbage and most people buying low end hardware aren't looking to spend large amounts of money on multiple hard drives where that money could be put to better use elsewhere

both boards are completely passive, and the i have never had any of the jmicron controller problems described by the one or two people in the newegg reviews(we all know how reliable those are don't we?) udma works perfectly fine with it in the 3 systems i have used it with

i also highly doubt you will get anywhere near 3ghz out of the 3600+ with the Abit board, i just don't see it happening, but if you can give me some evidence that it happens that would be nice

but all of this is really pointless since i was orginally responding to this comment:

It's a step in the right direction. I'll build my 145 dollar 3600+/KN9S system until I can get the 85 dollar intel to go along with a 99 dollar board that performs with such high FSB's like the S3 does.

so put your money where you mouth is and go out and get that intel system because i just showed you an under $99 board to go with that $85 intel that does the high fsb's that the s3 does

 

[ratbert]

965P-DS3 for $99

In order to bring that 85 dollar Intel processor that high, you're still looking at spending 115 or more for a featureless, bare bones board like the S3, not even the DS3... I'll build my 145 dollar 3600+/KN9S system until I can get the 85 dollar intel to go along with a 99 dollar board that performs with such high FSB's like the S3 does.

You get your wish. You can get the DS3(rev. 1.3[1333 FSB]) for $99 at newegg if you have $10 coupon code. by the time june comes around and these CPU's are available will be less imo.