WOW... the MX-4 thermal paste

fusionblu · Oct 10, 2014

Lightbulbie said:
But the shipping costs.

The idea is you buy more than just thermal paste when buying online...

FreedomEclipse said:
Or maybe its just simple OCuK thats stopped stocking it - Both the 4g & 20g tubes are OOS with no ETA. SCAN however has plenty of stock though you cant always trust their stock system.

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Yep looks like its just OCuK - plenty available on other sites - even on amazon

Interesting part of scan as they seemed to be the most reliably for me. I suppose it could be circumstances with my experience with scan.

As for ETA with overclockers I can only assume it is a matter with getting that stock available as soon as, but I could be wrong. Normally an additional message such as "No ETA" is a good hint a company is discontinuing a product and besides if scan shows stock of the product it likely shows the product isn't phased out yet (not sure how many more years it will last for as an effective product, the Arctic Cooling MX-4 cooling paste that is).

FreedomEclipse · Oct 10, 2014

Maybe so - but there are better pastes out there for a few quid more. PK-3 is close to the same price as MX-4 and works a little better IMO Ive used it on my CPU & 970s and my 970s have seen the best improvement when it comes to temps.

RealNeil · Oct 10, 2014

So shipping over there is costly? I'm glad that it's not so bad here.
I just bought a "Scythe" Mugen Max CPU Cooler (SCMGD-1000) for an i7 system,.....$44.99 US, shipped for free.

I live in a small town, and any good brick and mortar store with decent prices is an hour and a half away. So I buy online most of the time.

eidairaman1 · Oct 10, 2014

Scythe Ashura on a 8350 here (wanted to have full ram capability)

RealNeil said:
So shipping over there is costly? I'm glad that it's not so bad here.
I just bought a "Scythe" Mugen Max CPU Cooler (SCMGD-1000) for an i7 system,.....$44.99 US, shipped for free.

I live in a small town, and any good brick and mortar store with decent prices is an hour and a half away. So I buy online most of the time.

Naito · Oct 10, 2014

MX-4 is brilliant to work with and performs well. Used it on a few notebooks I pulled apart. AS5 still performs great too, but I find it is a bit more annoying to clean off when the time comes.

RealNeil · Oct 10, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
Scythe Ashura on a 8350 here (wanted to have full ram capability)

The one I bought has a Heatpipe offset to allow for RAM clearance.

R-T-B · Oct 10, 2014

Paste is overrated. Truth is manufactures and sometimes, people, are terrible at application.

I mean it. I use some stuff that is meant as an industrial heatsink compound. It's called GC Electronics heatsink compound. You can literally buy the stuff by the tub. If you apply it right, it works as good as AS5 (confirmed by benchmarks), and it bests several dedicated PC pastes.

Oh, and you can buy it for about 5 bucks a 1oz tube.

Remember, I'm a litecoin miner. I know about stability and heat. You are giving the paste too much credit.

vega22 · Oct 10, 2014

mx3 was better.

FreedomEclipse · Oct 10, 2014

marsey99 said:
mx3 was better.

only by 1-3'c on most reviews which is pretty much negligible. MX-3 was harder to spread though which made MX-2 or MX-4 more appealing when they came out

Octopuss · Oct 10, 2014

I prefer Noctua NT-H1 myself. It's thick as shit and absolute pain in the ass to spread, but seems to be working really well. And doesn't dry too much.

Vario · Oct 10, 2014

Octopuss said:
I prefer Noctua NT-H1 myself. It's thick as shit and absolute pain in the ass to spread, but seems to be working really well. And doesn't dry too much.

It never lasts for me. I've used it on all kinds of stuff, it always pumps out/thins out after a few months and you have to re-apply.

Shin Etsu X23-7783D is my favorite. Prolimatech PK1 is pretty decent too.

What I like about Shin Etsu is that it produces a durable bond that doesn't thin out, pump out, etc and seems to last forever, but still gives great temperatures. Its hard to apply, I use a heat gun to heat up the syringe of paste and get it to flow into more of a liquid, then I put a blob (about 2-3x the rice method amount) on the part and squish down the heatsink into the blob.

de.das.dude · Oct 10, 2014

Lightbulbie said:
Am I the only one who still uses Arctic Silver 5?

am i the only one who uses toothpaste and ketchup?
lol jk

Toothless · Oct 10, 2014

de.das.dude said:
am i the only one who uses toothpaste and ketchup?
lol jk

Toothpaste the cream cheese is where its at my friend.

fullinfusion · Oct 10, 2014

eidairaman1 said:
I still use the credit card methodand i push n twist the hs a lil

and now you wonder why your cpu idles hot :slap:

mx-4 isn't made to be credit card applied. A dab in the center and the cooler will spread it out.

eidairaman1 · Oct 10, 2014

Seems to be fine. Never thought it was hot

64K · Oct 10, 2014

de.das.dude said:
am i the only one who uses toothpaste and ketchup?
lol jk

These guys tested some funny stuff for paste

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-December-2011/1445

As it turns out mayonnaise is just as good as many other thermal pastes being sold by well known companies. Chocolate is a definite no-no.

vega22 · Oct 10, 2014

FreedomEclipse said:
only by 1-3'c on most reviews which is pretty much negligible. MX-3 was harder to spread though which made MX-2 or MX-4 more appealing when they came out

i have lapped cpu to get 1/3c improvements so a tim is well worth that imo.

i agree it is a mare to get a good application but icd is the same too. a great tim which is a fucker to use :/

still all better than liquid metal. the best time you can get but also the worst to use.

eidairaman1 · Oct 10, 2014

I might have to reapply mine. I guess the bead method is best?

newtekie1 · Oct 10, 2014

Credit card method is best for thick pastes(AS5), but the small bead is best for thinner pasts(MX2/4), in my experience.

eidairaman1 · Oct 10, 2014

newtekie1 said:
Credit card method is best for thick pastes(AS5), but the small bead is best for thinner pasts(MX2/4), in my experience.

Thank you for the info

Ill put a bead in center and replant my cooler tonight after i clean it off and the chip. Being out of the game for 11 years i stood by as5 for years and mx4 is the first change.

Vario · Oct 11, 2014

For CPU with lid, I just put a small blob that is taller then it is wide so that when it spreads it matches the shape of the die under the lid. For bare die VGA and laptops, I put large blob that I know will spread across the die and squish out the sides. Non-electrically-conductive paste for VGA obviously.

You will know when you get a good application because the idle temperature will be really low and when you stress test and then stop the stress test, the temperatures will rapidly fall to the idle temperature very quickly.

Raw · Oct 11, 2014

Lightbulbie said:
Am I the only one who still uses Arctic Silver 5?

No, you are not alone. I use Artic Silver 5 in all 5 of my machines and I haven't replaced the stuff in 2-3 YEARS.
I do have one machine that has been BSOD once in a while lately. I was just thinking it may be time to reapply the AS5 to the cpu.
And reseat the RAM and GPU. Blow out any dust, etc.
I don't see any heat issues in any of my machines though.

stefanels · Oct 12, 2014

After changing the paste on my CPU, the idle temp went down from 37C to 32-33C...

eidairaman1 · Oct 12, 2014

Cpu at 4.2Ghz across all 8 cores 39 idle. With blob method.

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WOW... the MX-4 thermal paste

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R-T-B

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Toothless

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