Artifacts when WEB browsing youtube videos

[jonathan1107]

For some reason I get weird RED LINE artifacts when browsing youtube videos that have dark backgrounds or images...

I have a Catleap monitor OC'ed to 110hz... that OC is super stable for every single video game I've tried but unless I lower the refresh rate, I get those red arftifacts when web browsing (especially with flash content... videos and whatnot)

any idea as to why I get artifacts when browsing but NO where else?

 

[Kursah]

Have you tried just one browser? Only Youtube videos? How about Twitch streams? DVD movies, digital video formats? I have read of Google Chrome flash plugins causing issues every once in a while and usually in Linux though. Screenshot?

Maybe try different video drivers? Update your runtimes? What about taking your monitor back to factory refresh clocks just to make sure?

 

[jonathan1107]

Obviously my monitor doesn't do artifacts on flash videos with factory refresh rate. This is an overclockable monitor that can reach 120hz+...

110hz is perfectly stable in all the benchmarks
and video games I've tested with the exception of youtube videos. I was hoping to find someone who's got experience with overclocking monitors to see if someone had something of the sort happen to them other than myself of course.

It feels like overscan or maybe youtube just doesn't work with refresh rates beyond a certain point

 

[OneMoar]

if you are using chrome disable hardware acceleration in
chrome://flags

 

[Steevo]

So why do you need 110Hz for youtube again?

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

So why do you need 110Hz for youtube again?

So he has to blink less, duh!

 

[eidairaman1]

75 is plenty

 

[xorbe]

I saw a thread over on [H] about this same issue. You got latest flash, driver, and browser?

 

[jonathan1107]

I saw a thread over on [H] about this same issue. You got latest flash, driver, and browser?

To answer yall:

Yes I've got the latest drivers for everything (flash, browser, nvidia drivers...)
Of course I don't need that high of a refresh rate on youtube lol...
When you overclock a monitor... you set a custom Resolution. I have a yamakasi catleap monitor: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=111399828170&view=all&tid=1285818226001

It's a monitor capable of 120hz+. The reason why I overclocked it is for gaming. Do I really have to explain "here" the benefits of having a 120hz rate for FPS games?
And no, I don't feel like having to swap my "custom resolution" everytime I open a youtube video to get rid of the artifacts... it would be annoying. I'm quite sure there's a reason why artifacts show up in flash content but no where else and I intend to find it

 

[jonathan1107]

Have you tried just one browser? Only Youtube videos? How about Twitch streams? DVD movies, digital video formats? I have read of Google Chrome flash plugins causing issues every once in a while and usually in Linux though. Screenshot?

Maybe try different video drivers? Update your runtimes? What about taking your monitor back to factory refresh clocks just to make sure?

and yes I get the same artifacts no matter the browser in flash videos... be it chrome, firefox or internet explorer... be it in full screen or in a small window... But ONLY inside the flash videos... nothing in the browser, nothing in video games or other applications

 

[micropage7]

have you tried using portable version just to make sure it may come from your flash

 

[jonathan1107]

have you tried using portable version just to make sure it may come from your flash

what you mean "portable version" ???

here's a screeny of my artifacts: CLICK on the image to view it in fullscreen


image hosting 12mb

 

[micropage7]

oh sorry
i mean portable chrome, just to make sure
thats weird, sometimes it related to memory but on video only it shouldnt memory

 

[Kursah]

Obviously my monitor doesn't do artifacts on flash videos with factory refresh rate...

Then obviously take the overclock off and use factory refresh rate to at least test and see if that is the cause, why else do you think I inquired about it? You just answered your own question judging by your response.

And if you haven't done the above to verify? Please do so.


There's thing thing we have in the field called diagnosis, and to ensure we can perform the diagnosis correctly and, diagnose the correct part, it helps if you answer ALL questions asked, with as much relevant information as possible, and minimal BS as possible. I don't think any more needs said.

If you want help, answer the questions, please review and re-answer those ones that are missed, if something requires a little more effort on your end, please do so or ask how to do so..not only will you help us to help you, you'll help yourself.

Next set of questions should running the screen at stock refresh clocks not be acceptable for you, we can try to see if something on the other end can resolve it:

Are you sure you've updated your runtimes? Are you on SP1 for Windows 7? (I could ASSume, but how about let's not) Is it a fresh install for this build or a re-purposed install from your previous build? Have you tried the onboard video to ensure it's nothing related to GPU drivers? Have you tried older GPU drivers? Is your GPU overclocked (beyond factory turbo)? Is it locked in 3D clocks constantly?

 

[xorbe]

Do you have EVGA PrecisionX / MSI AB installed? Do the problems go away if you remove them and power cycle? (Not reboot, but turn PC off, wait 5 sec, turn PC on.)

 

[jonathan1107]

Then obviously take the overclock off and use factory refresh rate to at least test and see if that is the cause, why else do you think I inquired about it? You just answered your own question judging by your response.

And if you haven't done the above to verify? Please do so.


There's thing thing we have in the field called diagnosis, and to ensure we can perform the diagnosis correctly and, diagnose the correct part, it helps if you answer ALL questions asked, with as much relevant information as possible, and minimal BS as possible. I don't think any more needs said.

If you want help, answer the questions, please review and re-answer those ones that are missed, if something requires a little more effort on your end, please do so or ask how to do so..not only will you help us to help you, you'll help yourself.

Next set of questions should running the screen at stock refresh clocks not be acceptable for you, we can try to see if something on the other end can resolve it:

Are you sure you've updated your runtimes? Are you on SP1 for Windows 7? (I could ASSume, but how about let's not) Is it a fresh install for this build or a re-purposed install from your previous build? Have you tried the onboard video to ensure it's nothing related to GPU drivers? Have you tried older GPU drivers? Is your GPU overclocked (beyond factory turbo)? Is it locked in 3D clocks constantly?

Well that was some fun reading... Yes indeed, the artifacts don't show when running below 80hz refresh rate. What I've been trying to say is I specifically picked out this monitor because it's the only glossy 1440p monitor that can do 120hz in the 400$ price range...

I didn't go through all the trouble of getting it to settle with 60hz...and that's no "bs". That's an unchanging fact...

As for the questions you asked:

- yes I tried default settings for the graphics card
- yes I tried different browsers and settings, including turning off or on the hardware acceleration. My graphics card is an msi gaming gtx 970 4gb.
- yes I made sure all my drivers are up to date including my windows install and my other drivers such as the monitor itself, graphics delivers (tried the nvidia beta delivers and now running on 344.48)
- as I said before, those artifacts don't show up on anything BUT flash based videos. Every video game I ran and benchmark works fine... Which leads me to believe I've not pushed pass any safe settings but leads me to believe there might be something that flash content just doesn't like about my refresh rate. I have yet to toy with my monitors timings to see if it can potentially fix my problem.

It seems like you think I'm not serious about this but I'm actually spending quite a bit of time on trying to solve the matter myself. I've been searching different forums for answers and I do not feel that your treating me as not being serious is legitimate or warranted at all...

In fact, if I annoy you with my needing help and asking questions maybe you should refrain from reading them posts...

Yes I'm a bit vexed. Everyone here seems to want to be helping while you're telling I've not done my homework...

Have you? Do you even know what a yamakasi catleap monitor is? Have you any experience with monitor overclocking... Cause what I've been telling you seems to sound like Chinese to your ears... Correct?

 

[Kursah]

SIgh...

Well that was some fun reading... Yes indeed, the artifacts don't show when running below 80hz refresh rate. What I've been trying to say is I specifically picked out this monitor because it's the only glossy 1440p monitor that can do 120hz in the 400$ price range...

Well just because it can doesn't mean it won't do so without issues. That's just reality man.

I didn't go through all the trouble of getting it to settle with 60hz...and that's no "bs". That's an unchanging fact...

Well, again, just because it can, doesn't mean it won't do so without issues.

We all want our hardware to perform its best or what others have achieved... but with every hardware purchase, the buyer should assume YMMV for this reason. Maybe you can exchange the screen to verify the concern?

As for the questions you asked:

- yes I tried default settings for the graphics card
- yes I tried different browsers and settings, including turning off or on the hardware acceleration. My graphics card is an msi gaming gtx 970 4gb.
- yes I made sure all my drivers are up to date including my windows install and my other drivers such as the monitor itself, graphics delivers (tried the nvidia beta delivers and now running on 344.48)
- as I said before, those artifacts don't show up on anything BUT flash based videos. Every video game I ran and benchmark works fine... Which leads me to believe I've not pushed pass any safe settings but leads me to believe there might be something that flash content just doesn't like about my refresh rate. I have yet to toy with my monitors timings to see if it can potentially fix my problem.

Well...instead of taking the time to get hot and bothered at my comments, why don't you take a little time to try what I have placed in bold for you.

I bet you can fix it, and if not, you'll know more about its specific capabilities. That is a GOOD thing, and could give you reason to RMA it should they accept RMA for that reason if you're not happy with its results.

That's most of the questions... have you tried your onboard graphics as well? Shouldn't take long to do this and could provide one of the final nail(s) in the coffin that you need to prove it's the screen and your overclocking of it.

It seems like you think I'm not serious.... snip...

Reread the bold above. Then tell me more about how you've been trying everything and doing your homework. Please. Because you just admitted you haven't on one of the biggest aspects to the cause of your issue with your system as it stands. Feel free to flame me, it is only going to affect you. I don't care if you like me, I don't care what you think of me, I do care that we get your issue (with your PC) sorted.

 

[OneMoar]

try setting a static clock profile via msi-afterburner and see what that does
sounds like some weird display timing issue or clock state switching idiocy paired with your monitors over driven refresh rate causing a artifact at the end of frames
also try watching the html5 video here
http://www.w3.org/2010/05/video/mediaevents.html

 

[DayKnight]

So he has to blink less, duh!

Win.

 

[eidairaman1]

Personally he needs to take that monitor back

SIgh...



Well just because it can doesn't mean it won't do so without issues. That's just reality man.



Well, again, just because it can, doesn't mean it won't do so without issues.

We all want our hardware to perform its best or what others have achieved... but with every hardware purchase, the buyer should assume YMMV for this reason. Maybe you can exchange the screen to verify the concern?



Well...instead of taking the time to get hot and bothered at my comments, why don't you take a little time to try what I have placed in bold for you.

I bet you can fix it, and if not, you'll know more about its specific capabilities. That is a GOOD thing, and could give you reason to RMA it should they accept RMA for that reason if you're not happy with its results.

That's most of the questions... have you tried your onboard graphics as well? Shouldn't take long to do this and could provide one of the final nail(s) in the coffin that you need to prove it's the screen and your overclocking of it.



Reread the bold above. Then tell me more about how you've been trying everything and doing your homework. Please. Because you just admitted you haven't on one of the biggest aspects to the cause of your issue with your system as it stands. Feel free to flame me, it is only going to affect you. I don't care if you like me, I don't care what you think of me, I do care that we get your issue (with your PC) sorted.

 

[jonathan1107]

Then obviously take the overclock off and use factory refresh rate to at least test and see if that is the cause, why else do you think I inquired about it? You just answered your own question judging by your response.

And if you haven't done the above to verify? Please do so.


There's thing thing we have in the field called diagnosis, and to ensure we can perform the diagnosis correctly and, diagnose the correct part, it helps if you answer ALL questions asked, with as much relevant information as possible, and minimal BS as possible. I don't think any more needs said.

If you want help, answer the questions, please review and re-answer those ones that are missed, if something requires a little more effort on your end, please do so or ask how to do so..not only will you help us to help you, you'll help yourself.

Next set of questions should running the screen at stock refresh clocks not be acceptable for you, we can try to see if something on the other end can resolve it:

Are you sure you've updated your runtimes? Are you on SP1 for Windows 7? (I could ASSume, but how about let's not) Is it a fresh install for this build or a re-purposed install from your previous build? Have you tried the onboard video to ensure it's nothing related to GPU drivers? Have you tried older GPU drivers? Is your GPU overclocked (beyond factory turbo)? Is it locked in 3D clocks constantly?

Yeah I do understand what you're saying, but yeah, I felt like you were being condescendant with me. Just read your original post and you'll see what I mean. I mean yeah, the monitor might be faulty and I might have to consider having to RMA it... but you need to understand, I did not get that monitor to enjoy 120hz on youtube videos lol.... its for gaming... it's just those artifacts got me worried. I want to make sure my settings are good. I played with the monitor timgins and it helps a little... when I switch to 16 bit color depth instead of 32 bit I get rid of all the artifacts... I yet have to find the culprit though. I'll keep you guys posted

 

[eidairaman1]

You shouldnt have to drop the color down at all. I think youve got a screwed up monitor

 

[Kursah]

+1 you shouldn't have to make a change to color output... I agree that your monitor is screwed up. I would still try a different graphics adapter just in case...and since your CPU has an iGPU, why not try it out? I doubt you'll notice any differences, but worth a shot. It'd suck if it turned out to be your brand new card too.

Keep us posted and good luck!

 

[jonathan1107]

+1 you shouldn't have to make a change to color output... I agree that your monitor is screwed up. I would still try a different graphics adapter just in case...and since your CPU has an iGPU, why not try it out? I doubt you'll notice any differences, but worth a shot. It'd suck if it turned out to be your brand new card too.

Keep us posted and good luck!

yeah I'm gonna try the on board graphics. The good news in all of this. I get ZERO artifacts in gaming... none. I can play whatever @ 1440p res with a fluid and steady 110hz refresh rate... It's just the youtube and other web videos... Even the one linked by another guy earlier in this thread

 

[OneMoar]

post your timings here