AMD Fiji XT R9 390X Specs Leak

[AsRock]

Industry and consumer are two different things. Unless it's something ridiculous, I don't care about power consumption either.

I do but buying a new card to replace a ( or 2 ) 290(x) because of it is totally not worth it in the end as your not going see the savings for years to come.

Just been playing FC3 for the last 45 minutes without any issue at all.

 

[GhostRyder]

I'll wait for the actual release before I get excited about it.
Power is pretty cheap where I live, so 150W doesn't bring the bill up noticeably.

I'll just continue to buy the best that I can afford at the time. Today's GPUs are already pretty freakin' nice,.........




Oh, and I like this little runner.

Power generally is like that even in some of the pricey areas mostly because unless you run it non-stop at those levels for extreme lengths of time it won't adjust your bill much. Though we should encourage lower power consumption its not the end all that should be the only focus.

This site used to be like that, but as of lately the fanboys & trolls are ruining this site

Same with a lot of sites as of late.

Fiji is going to be interesting especially because of the AIO reference design and these specs. I think based on the basis of specs and the shrink Fiji is more aimed beyond the smaller GM chips and aimed at the possible Titan-II more than anything. But that is a straight up speculation/opinion just based on the bare minimum knowledge of the card we have.

 

[RejZoR]

This is the reason why i'm holding of with purchase of GTX 970. It can turn out that R9-390 will be a killer, but even if it won't be, it will force NVIDIA to lower their prices a bit so it's really a win win for the consumers either way. Unless if you rushed for GTX already...

 

[eidairaman1]

Ill sit out till r9 500/600 series. By then maybe amd has a performance quadcore-octocore

 

[GhostRyder]

Ill sit out till r9 500/600 series. By then maybe amd has a performance quadcore-octocore

Personally I maybe interested in this series even though it will go against my usual principle of skipping a generation. Though that's a stretch for me as well as I will probably wait until the GTX 1080/R9 4XX series come before replacing my setup.

 

[RealNeil]

Personally I maybe interested in this series even though it will go against my usual principle of skipping a generation. Though that's a stretch for me as well as I will probably wait until the GTX 1080/R9 4XX series come before replacing my setup.

Your Tri-290X setup should be good for a long time. (in fact,...all of your system should be)

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I'll patiently wait for real world results and to see what feature set it supports, the latter being a big priority for me on my next GPU.

I like that Nvidia's Pascal will have unified memory, stacked DRAM, and NVLink, and Shadowplay is well ahead of Raptr Game DVR.

So far it's Nvidia Pascal all the way for me. Even if AMD makes a valiant effort in matching features, they've been slipping on drivers again.

 

[RealNeil]

I'll patiently wait for real world results and to see what feature set it supports, the latter being a big priority for me on my next GPU

This makes sense to me. Wait to see, and know before you buy.

 

[RejZoR]

I'll patiently wait for real world results and to see what feature set it supports, the latter being a big priority for me on my next GPU.

I like that Nvidia's Pascal will have unified memory, stacked DRAM, and NVLink, and Shadowplay is well ahead of Raptr Game DVR.

So far it's Nvidia Pascal all the way for me. Even if AMD makes a valiant effort in matching features, they've been slipping on drivers again.

But then again there are NVIDIA's business practices and all their proprietary garbage. AMD on the other hand doesn't intentionally cripple competition the way NVIDIA does, AMD Mantle doesn't intentionally cripples NVIDIA, it just leaves them at the usual D3D level and all the physics goodies are done through DirectCompute, which means they also work on NVIDIA graphic cards (and even Intel). Unlike PhysX which again only works on NVIDIA cards. I just like to support and use products of the company that is less of a douchebag, even if i don't get those 2fps more in games. It's one of the reasons why i'm with AMD for the last couple of years. They've been less douchey than NVIDIA. And i know i'm not the only one who decides for products this way. Many people decide for products based on other factors that aren't purely performance based...

 

[vega22]

Let's say I let a computer run x hours a day for 1 month with 150 watts difference from another machine with AMD hardware:

Energy cost here, ¢/kWh = $0.32
12 hours = +$17.28 (or $207,36 /year)
16 hours = +$23.04 (or $276,48 /year)
24 hours = +$34.56 (or $414,72 /year)

That would be a great impact on my monthly bill. I pay about $60 /month. Power inefficiency costs a lot. :O

now lets re do those figures with the real world difference of about 30 watts under load (290x over 980).

$80 a year saving from replacing 1 290x with 1 980.

works out a bit less once you convert the cash over here in £££ but still i dont care either.

if you use this as an argument and still overclock... you funneh!

 

[RCoon]

now lets re do those figures with the real world difference of about 30 watts under load (290x over 980).

232W average vs 156W average for 290X vs 980 (TPU's review figures), that's not even peak or maximum(unrealistic) measurements. So there's more than 30W difference in average power consumption. More like 75W's difference. That being said, a lot of countries have wildly different electricity costs.

But yeah, buying a card and overclocking the snot out of it, whilst also claiming you care so very much about power consumption, is wholeheartedly crazy. That's why I don't overclock anything anymore. I enjoy the cheap running costs of my PC.

 

[Blue-Knight]

if you use this as an argument and still overclock... you funneh!

I do not overclock.

But yeah, buying a card and overclocking the snot out of it, whilst also claiming you care so very much about power consumption, is wholeheartedly crazy.

I care about power consumption.

Even 30 watts will make a considerable difference, let's see:
I am currently "burning" 95 watts on average (my monitor doesn't stay on 24/7). Keep in mind this is just for computer, not other items in my house...

At $0.28 /kWh (the rate is lower on winter, about $0.23). The rate varies each month, so let's say it is $0.28 on average...

95 watts:
+$19.60 in 1 month.
+235.20 in 1 year.

125 watts:
+$25.20 in 1 month (+$5.60).
+302.40 in 1 month (+$67.20).

It is not THAT much, but that $67.20 will be added to my yearly savings and then I can buy more hardware at the end of the year.

 

[AsRock]

232W average vs 156W average for 290X vs 980 (TPU's review figures), that's not even peak or maximum(unrealistic) measurements. So there's more than 30W difference in average power consumption. More like 75W's difference. That being said, a lot of countries have wildly different electricity costs.

But yeah, buying a card and overclocking the snot out of it, whilst also claiming you care so very much about power consumption, is wholeheartedly crazy. That's why I don't overclock anything anymore. I enjoy the cheap running costs of my PC.

232w average for a 290X i take it that our talking without vsync being on ( just the card usage ) as from what i have seen is that my total system usage is normally no more than 230w ( 170w-250w) with vsync on.

All so if you leave the computer with a game running for a moment did you know by putting the menu on or the games map the power usage can drop ( if minimizing not a option ), of hand i found this with Skyrim and Just Cause 2, some even drop to near idle usages.

 

[RCoon]

I do not overclock.


I care about power consumption.

Even 30 watts will make a considerable difference, let's see:
I am currently "burning" 95 watts on average (my monitor doesn't stay on 24/7). Keep in mind this is just for computer, not other items in my house...

At $0.28 /kWh (the rate is lower on winter, about $0.23). The rate varies each month, so let's say it is $0.28 on average...

95 watts:
+$19.60 in 1 month.
+235.20 in 1 year.

125 watts:
+$25.20 in 1 month (+$5.60).
+302.40 in 1 month (+$67.20).

It is not THAT much, but that $67.20 will be added to my yearly savings and then I can buy more hardware at the end of the year.

I also care about power consumption. But you are in the same boat as me, you care, and you don't overclock. I was responding to the previous post mentioning caring about power but also overclocking (in that it's hypocritical).

232w average for a 290X i take it that our talking without vsync being on as from what i have seen is that my total system usage is normally no more than 230w ( 170w-250w) with vsync on.

All so if you leave the computer with a game running for a moment did you know by putting the menu on or the games map the power usage can drop ( if minimizing not a option ), of hand i found this with Skyrim and Just Cause 2, some even drop to near idle usages.

I'm just taking figures from the TPU figures, I presume W1zzard turns VSync off for his averages. Yeah, in game menus don't process anything besides a single screen, and not much animation, so it's most probably going to run at a tiny percentage of the GPU.

 

[64K]

I also care about power consumption. But you are in the same boat as me, you care, and you don't overclock. I was responding to the previous post mentioning caring about power but also overclocking (in that it's hypocritical).



I'm just taking figures from the TPU figures, I presume W1zzard turns VSync off for his averages. Yeah, in game menus don't process anything besides a single screen, and not much animation, so it's most probably going to run at a tiny percentage of the GPU.

Yeah, W1zzard has said before he turns off VSync when he benches games.

 

[RejZoR]

There is no way you'll gonna save 80 bucks a year by replacing 290x with GTX970. It's just not gonna happen ever. Unless if you're living in a country with the most ridiculous electricity price.

 

[64K]

Looking at W1zzard's test I see that there is about 110 watts difference at average and peak between a GTX 980 and a R9 290X.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/24.html

If you game for an average 20 hours a week (some game more some less) then saving around 110 watts over a year per kWh would save you

kWh cost Savings

10 cents $11.44
20 cents $22.88
30 cents $34.32
40 cents $45.76

to save $80 a year you would have to be paying 70 cents per kWh. I pay on average 10 cents a kWh so the savings doesn't mean anything to me really.

 

[RealNeil]

$.1002 per residential kWh is my rate here. So running a few PCs doesn't break the bank.

 

[the54thvoid]

Can we stop talking about power consumption in a thread about AMD's next architecture GPU? It's not relevant. I mentioned that a while back in my own post about power -it's not relevant.
What about any updated rumours on die size, shaders, frequency etc. That would be more in line with the OP instead of pan global energy comparisons.

 

[RealNeil]

Sorry, I was just responding to other posts.

I'd love to see some concrete specs on this card. If we find out soon enough, it may effect whether I buy a few GTX-970s.

 

[the54thvoid]

Just read a post from a few days back at an unreliable source (Videocardz, that also was sourcing Fudzilla). It's suggesting that the next Flagship Maxwell part won't see the light of day until after Fiji comes out. As someone who is brand agnostic and is looking for a good solution for 4K gaming, that would be really good for AMD. There are a few folk in my shoes (surely) that want to make the move to 4K but don't want to rely on 2 or 3 way GPU configurations. If Fiji does come out, and it performs well, then it'd be a blow for NV for 4k.
It's possible as well that AMD might not make the mistake of Tahiti (7970) and price it as high as NV's previous flagship - recall 7970 came in at well over £400 in UK. If Fiji comes in at a good price, it might rip the carpet from under Nvidia - seeing as they are gouging on the GTX 980 parts currently.

 

[RealNeil]

Whomever has the flagship parts, gouges. That's usually been so in the past, as I've seen it happen time and again.
I remember that I was pleasantly surprised at the price point of the R9-280X and the R9-290X cards when they first came out.
I was thinking that Team Green was gonna ~have~ to lower prices for sure, considering their price (far lower) to performance levels. But they didn't have to do it after all because of the Bitcoin Mining buyout of Radeon parts.
280 and 290 parts were so expensive that Team Green cracked a smile and went on with the same, or higher prices.

I couldn't afford either side's good stuff.

 

[DOA]

100Watts = accidentally leaving a light on in the attic

 

[AsRock]

100Watts = accidentally leaving a light on in the attic

About time you got new light bulbs if yours taking that much lol.

 

[lukart]

Still, the 390 should come out under 28nm... not much energy savings Im guessing