Making a switch...

[CrackerJack]

Can't decide which route is best.

My Current Setup:
MB: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 v1.0
CPU: FX-8120 OC (4.0)
RAM: 16GB Ripjaws
GPU: ASUS 280X TOP
Cooling: Corsair H100i (Cougar Fans)

Looking at this setup
MB/CPU Combo: Link
RAM: Ripjaws

or

MB/CPU Combo: Link

I've been looking at this Intel’s Promotions and afraid to pass up on the offers!

Usage:

• Gaming (Moderate to Heavy, The Crew, Battlefield 4, Call of Duty and Far Cry 4)
• Coding
• Video Encoding (Moderate, nothing to crazy)

I do plan on upgrading video card in the spring. Possibly to a 970

I like to keep the price around $500

Thanks Guys/Gals

 

[eidairaman1]

Your current rig is fine as is, you can upgrade the GPU or get another

 

[de.das.dude]

are you facing any problems right now? if not... keep this system and get a 970
or will the upgrade be merely since you have extra cash? if so get an 8350 and a 970 and 4K monitor maybe?

 

[CrackerJack]

Your current rig is fine as is, you can upgrade the GPU or get another

Would crossfire 280x be any better than a single 970 tho?

are you facing any problems right now? if not... keep this system and get a 970
or will the upgrade be merely since you have extra cash? if so get an 8350 and a 970 and 4K monitor maybe?

No mine runs perfectly fine. My Wife's computer is about shot. I was gonna give her my old hardware. She needs a new MB/CPU/RAM.... If I just upgraded to the 8350, I'll just buy a new board and ram for her and give her my 8120.

Any suggestions on a decent Motherboard?

 

[buildzoid]

Would crossfire 280x be any better than a single 970 tho?



No mine runs perfectly fine. My Wife's computer is about shot. I was gonna give her my old hardware. She needs a new MB/CPU/RAM.... If I just upgraded to the 9370, I'll just buy a new board and ram for her and give her my 8120.

Any suggestions on a decent Motherboard?

The Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 is one of the best AM3+ boards available but if you need something cheaper the Gigaby 990FX-UD3 rev4.0 is also pretty good if you need a really cheap board the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P is one of the best available boards.

 

[Jstn7477]

A 4790K + Z97 setup would certainly be nice (hoping the AMD people above don't lash out at me), but if you're sticking with AMD, you'd probably be best with an FX 8350. I prefer the powerful Intel cores and lower power consumption (I'm well aware that my 5820K takes over 250w, but the quads can easily stay around 130w for a complete barebones overclocked system @ 4.2GHz or so, not including the video card) so that's where I stand on that. I play on a 144Hz monitor so the 5820K/X99 sealed the deal for me along with a GTX 980, even over my prior 4770K/Z87 rig.

 

[de.das.dude]

The Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 is one of the best AM3+ boards available but if you need something cheaper the Gigaby 990FX-UD3 rev4.0 is also pretty good if you need a really cheap board the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P is one of the best available boards.

i woulndt go with that. seen too many of those for RMA.

if you are looking for a cheap board then the gigabyte GA-78LMT is very popular.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I dont know about you guys, but a 4790k build will be considerably faster than his current AMD system in his applications.

 

[de.das.dude]

I dont know about you guys, but a 4790k build will be considerably faster than his current AMD system in his applications.

he is not looking for a completely new build. he wants to upgrade parts and let his wife have old parts, and add some and make her a new pc.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

he is not looking for a completely new build. he wants to upgrade parts and let his wife have old parts, and add some and make her a new pc.

He's looking to upgrade CPU and motherboard it seems from his current system, and posted 2 Intel based cpu/mobo combos for use to look at.

 

[CrackerJack]

Sorry for the confusion

I'm only upgrading my system, cause my Wife's system is about shot. I'm just taking advantage and upgrading mine also vs just doing her's. Mine works fine, she just wants something as fast as mine.

I'm now looking at just getting another GA-990FXA-UD3, FX-8350, and another set Ripjaws.

 

[Mussels]

I dont know about you guys, but a 4790k build will be considerably faster than his current AMD system in his applications.

i'm in total agreement with that. it'll be one hell of an upgrade leaving his old parts to his missus.

 

[FireFox]

Maybe it's my ignorance but I don't understand why you people are so fixed With this 4790k, it seems like There is nothing else in this world, just that processor.

If I don't grab a 4790k as soon as possible I am out date

 

[Jstn7477]

Maybe it's my ignorance but I don't understand why you people are so fixed With this 4790k, it seems like There is nothing else in this world, just that processor.

If I don't grab a 4790k as soon as possible I am out date

The 4790K is the best "Devil's Canyon" LGA 1150 processor, 4GHz base clock out of the box and better thermal paste between the die and heatspreader for a marginal price increase over the 4770K. Oh, and right now it's actually $35 cheaper ($299) on Newegg than the 3.5GHz 4770K for $335 (both are regularly priced at $350). Why not get "the best" from the start if it is pretty much the same price?

 

[buildzoid]

The 4790K cost 2x what the FX8350 the mobos for it are also more expensive than the boards for the FX 8350 and in movie encoding and other multi threaded tasks the 4790K is only a little faster. Sure it has awesome single threaded performance but that only really helps in RTSs and some badly written MMOs(PS2 on my 4.8Ghz FX 6350 + R9 290 ran at 40-90FPS. Tera run between 0-70FPS in heavy PVP)

 

[GreiverBlade]

Maybe it's my ignorance but I don't understand why you people are so fixed With this 4790k, it seems like There is nothing else in this world, just that processor.

If I don't grab a 4790k as soon as possible I am out date

The 4790K is the best "Devil's Canyon" LGA 1150 processor, 4GHz base clock out of the box and better thermal paste between the die and heatspreader for a marginal price increase over the 4770K. Oh, and right now it's actually $35 cheaper ($299) on Newegg than the 3.5GHz 4770K for $335 (both are regularly priced at $350). Why not get "the best" from the start if it is pretty much the same price?

and a i5 4690K is the best "value" Devil canyon CPU you can get : no real advantage of a i7 if not encoding and multithreading like mad .... so then a 8350 is on "par" with a i5 4670K and perform near the i7 4770K when it come to encoding: hence the AMD upgrade is also a viable option.

The 4790K cost 2x what the FX8350 the mobos for it are also more expensive than the boards for the FX 8350 and in movie encoding and other multi threaded tasks the 4790K is only a little faster. Sure it has awesome single threaded performance but that only really helps in RTSs and some badly written MMOs(PS2 on my 4.8Ghz FX 6350 + R9 290 ran at 40-90FPS. Tera run between 0-70FPS in heavy PVP)

pretty much that (heavily agree on Tera ... before 15-70fps and now rarely under 55 )

also for my side i went from a 990X and a 6300 to a Z97 and a 4690K because i could do it and had the budget for it, if i had a smaller budget i would have got the 8350/9370 upgrade instead.

 

[repman244]

The 4790K cost 2x what the FX8350 the mobos for it are also more expensive than the boards for the FX 8350 and in movie encoding and other multi threaded tasks the 4790K is only a little faster. Sure it has awesome single threaded performance but that only really helps in RTSs and some badly written MMOs(PS2 on my 4.8Ghz FX 6350 + R9 290 ran at 40-90FPS. Tera run between 0-70FPS in heavy PVP)

"A little faster"

I made a switch from my old 1090T to 3930k - the difference is huge. Well yes the 8350 is faster (mostly) than the older 1090T but not by much.

4790k may be 2x the cost of 8350 but you will be able to use it longer due to the overhead it offers unless you update every new gen.

 

[de.das.dude]

in cinebench R15 i got the same score as a 3770k with my 8320 clocked at 8350 speeds.
at 1/2 the cost of a 4790k.... its was a really good bargain to me...

 

[Jborg]

I recently upgraded to an AMD FX 8350 + GTX 970 G1 gaming.... been a great upgrade for me..... All I do is mostly Photoshop, Vegas, and Gaming really... I did upgrade from a FX 4100 Quad core and a GTX 650ti. So it was considerable. I would say the 8350 is a great buy atm for what its capable of. Along with a 970.

 

[GhostRyder]

Can't decide which route is best.
My Current Setup:
MB: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 v1.0
CPU: FX-8120 OC (4.0)
RAM: 16GB Ripjaws
GPU: ASUS 280X TOP
Cooling: Corsair H100i (Cougar Fans)
Looking at this setup
MB/CPU Combo: Link
RAM: Ripjaws
or
MB/CPU Combo: Link
I've been looking at this Intel’s Promotions and afraid to pass up on the offers!
Usage:

• Gaming (Moderate to Heavy, The Crew, Battlefield 4, Call of Duty and Far Cry 4)
• Coding
• Video Encoding (Moderate, nothing to crazy)

I do plan on upgrading video card in the spring. Possibly to a 970
I like to keep the price around $500
Thanks Guys/Gals

My opinion since you have to upgrade is to get an i5 4690K over the 4790K for gaming unless you plan on doing some media encoding/video editing as the hyper threading does not really help gaming much (if any). Probably about 90% of games at least perform as well on the i5 4690K (Clock for clock) as an i7 4790K with a very small number of heavily threaded games giving a slight boost to the i7 and at least a few (BF4 is one) having issues running hyper threading (Not performing as well as it should/shows and I am not sure if it got fixed ever).

Personally if I was you I would just get a really nice setup to go around the i5 4690K which will give you some serious performance for a much better price like this (Even though you do a little video encoding):

i5 4690K
MSI Z97 Gaming 7 (Has a coupon code until the 30th, not a bad deal honestly)
8gb DDR3 2133 Gskill Sniper (2x4gb) (You can pick whichever you want but this is on sale cheap!)

Honestly that's well below your 500 dollar budget which would allow you then to get this

DeepCool 240mm AIO (Since I am assuming your giving the other to your wife and this is a pretty cool one but any of them are good enough)

Total with all of this would be (Coupon included) $530 which is honestly an awesome deal.

That is honestly like what I would look for if building in your shoes.

 

[FireFox]

The 4790K is the best "Devil's Canyon" LGA 1150 processor, 4GHz base clock out of the box and better thermal paste between the die and heatspreader for a marginal price increase over the 4770K. Oh, and right now it's actually $35 cheaper ($299) on Newegg than the 3.5GHz 4770K for $335 (both are regularly priced at $350). Why not get "the best" from the start if it is pretty much the same price?

That's mean that if I want to upgrade from socket 1155 to 1150 I have to spend around 600€ or more, Money is not the problem but I think it's insane.

Note: it's all because the 4.0GHz?
Older processors can reach the same speed or higher even with less voltages,.

 

[repman244]

Older processors can reach the same speed or higher even with less voltages,.

They can reach the same clock speed but have lower performance per clock than modern CPUs.

 

[GhostRyder]

They can reach the same clock speed but have lower performance per clock than modern CPUs.

That's mean that if I want to upgrade from socket 1155 to 1150 I have to spend around 600€ or more, Money is not the problem but I think it's insane.

Note: it's all because the 4.0GHz?
Older processors can reach the same speed or higher even with less voltages,.

The 4790K and 4770K contain the same Haswell cores inside the only major differences are the starting clock speeds and the fact the 4790K is a "Devils Canyon" which has improvements on the TIM between the heat spreader and chip. You can achieve the same overclocks on both but the difference is that even if you run same voltages the 4770K runs slightly hotter.

Its better to get a Devils Canyon at this point but your not getting a performance difference clock to clock on a 4770K vs a 4790K.

From the Ivy-Bridge to Haswell there is about a 10% performance difference depending on the task average (Clock to clock). Ivy-Bridge was generally an improved Sandy-Bridge architecture that had terrible TIM which held it back while taking the lid off seemed to resolve said issue. You can achieve normally better clocks on an 3770K than a 4790K from what I have seen which could lead to a better performance on an older chip or matching (overclocked 3770K to 4.9-5.0ghz vs 4790K to 4.6-4.8ghz) but its still luck of the draw.

 

[FireFox]

They can reach the same clock speed but have lower performance per clock than modern CPUs.

That could be, but performance are not that much and for 350€ I don't think it is Worth.

 

[repman244]

That could be, but performance are not that much and for 350€ I don't think it is Worth.

Depends on what you need it for, if you need it for heavy multithread performance you're looking at the wrong CPU at the start already (you should be looking at 6 core options) but if you're after the fastest single thread performance the 4790k is the way to go.
Not saying that everyone should be buying it far from it, but it does offer the best performance which you have to pay for.