Making a switch...

Devon68 · Nov 28, 2014

This might sound harsh but stop dreaming about shit you really dont need.
a R9 280x for 1080p gaming is plenty. Take that money and buy something nice for Christmas that both of you can enjoy or take your wife on a dinner or something your PC is fine even without the upgrade or switch.

CrackerJack · Nov 28, 2014

Devon68 said:
This might sound harsh but stop dreaming about shit you really dont need.
a R9 280x for 1080p gaming is plenty. Take that money and buy something nice for Christmas that both of you can enjoy or take your wife on a dinner or something your PC is fine even without the upgrade or switch.

I'm not upgrading my 280x...

She wants me to upgrade her system, she demanded it for her Christmas gift.

Her system:
MB- GA-MA790X-DS4
CPU- Phenom II x4 955
RAM- ADATA DDR2 2GB

I was just gonna do a RAM upgrade, but for a system that I had nearly 5 years ago???

My final decision is this:
MB/CPU
Cooler: 8120

I'll just give here 8GB of my 16. Save ~60

MxPhenom 216 · Nov 28, 2014

sounds like a good plan.

GhostRyder · Nov 28, 2014

CrackerJack said:
I'm not upgrading my 280x...

She wants me to upgrade her system, she demanded it for her Christmas gift.

Her system:
MB- GA-MA790X-DS4
CPU- Phenom II x4 955
RAM- ADATA DDR2 2GB

I was just gonna do a RAM upgrade, but for a system that I had nearly 5 years ago???

My final decision is this:
MB/CPU
Cooler: 8120

I'll just give here 8GB of my 16. Save ~60

Looks good to me, you will be more than happy with that thing cranked up to 4.5ghz on any application/game you can imagine for years to come!

FireFox · Nov 28, 2014

GhostRyder said:
From the Ivy-Bridge to Haswell there is about a 10% performance difference depending on the task average (Clock to clock). Ivy-Bridge was generally an improved Sandy-Bridge architecture that had terrible TIM which held it back while taking the lid off seemed to resolve said issue. You can achieve normally better clocks on an 3770K than a 4790K from what I have seen which could lead to a better performance on an older chip or matching (overclocked 3770K to 4.9-5.0ghz vs 4790K to 4.6-4.8ghz) but its still luck of the draw.

I am in total agreement.
I didn't want to buy an ivybridge CPU due the TIM issue that was making the CPU run a bit hotter, as we know It supposed
run at lower temperatures than their Sandy Bridge predecessor but unfortunately it wasn't so, btw I got the 3770k because I thought With a good watercooler loop would be better to handle temperatures, and I was wrong, I got 80c while stressing the cpu with prime95, that's why as you mentioned above (while taking the lid off seemed to resolve said issue) I delidded the cpu getting an improvement of 20c less when stressing with prime95 or any stress softwares.
I am very happy with my 3770k, I achieved good overclocks with acceptables voltages, so far my best overclock results are :
1.25v 4.7GHz /1.27v 4.8Ghz /1.30v 4.9ghz and my favourite one 1.38v 5.0Ghz.

Note: from my personal point of view I don't see the need for an upgrade right now, the only thing that I could upgrade is the 2 Evga 770 that I own.

buildzoid · Nov 28, 2014

repman244 said:
"A little faster"

I made a switch from my old 1090T to 3930k - the difference is huge. Well yes the 8350 is faster (mostly) than the older 1090T but not by much.

4790k may be 2x the cost of 8350 but you will be able to use it longer due to the overhead it offers unless you update every new gen.

Those graphs look wrong. Cinebench scales really really linearly with core clock and yet a 17% increase in core clock((4.7Ghz/4Ghz) only cause 6% increase in performance. Also heavily tweaked i7 4XXX CPUs on HWbot clocked around 4.2Ghz score lower than the stock 4790K in those graphs. So IMO these graphs are paid off.

Mussels · Nov 29, 2014

de.das.dude said:
in cinebench R15 i got the same score as a 3770k with my 8320 clocked at 8350 speeds.
at 1/2 the cost of a 4790k.... its was a really good bargain to me...

and my i5 was almost 20% faster per clock than your 8320, giving me a massive boost in gaming.

then i went my i7 and the gap widened.

if its for gaming, the intels have a lead. I've got a house full of PC's and was an AMD fanboy before getting a bunch of last gen intel systems cheap, and they've destroyed the AMD's as far as gaming and wattage/heat goes.

System Name	Ryzen 2023
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700
Motherboard	Asrock B650E Steel Legend Wifi
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
Memory	G Skill Flare X5 2x16gb cl32@6000 MHz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Radeon RX 6950 XT Nitro + gaming Oc
Storage	WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB 64MB 7k SATA600 Blue WD10EZEX, WD Black SN850X 1Tb nvme
Display(s)	LG 27GP850P-B
Case	Corsair 5000D airflow tempered glass
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime GX-850W
Mouse	A4Tech V7M bloody
Keyboard	Genius KB-G255
Software	Windows 10 64bit

System Name	Ryzen Reflection
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5900x
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570S Aorus Master
Cooling	2x EK PE360 \| TechN AM4 AMD Block Black \| EK Quantum Vector Trinity GPU Nickel + Plexi
Memory	Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem 2x16GB B-Die 3600 @ 14-14-14-28-42-288-2T 1.45v
Video Card(s)	Zotac AMP HoloBlack RTX 3080Ti 12G \| 950mV 1950Mhz
Storage	WD SN850 500GB (OS) \| Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Games_1) \| Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (Games_2)
Display(s)	Asus XG27AQM 240Hz G-Sync Fast-IPS \| Gigabyte M27Q-P 165Hz 1440P IPS \| Asus 24" IPS (portrait mode)
Case	Lian Li PC-011D XL \| Custom cables by Cablemodz
Audio Device(s)	FiiO K7 \| Sennheiser HD650 + Beyerdynamic FOX Mic
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 850
Mouse	Razer Viper v2 Pro
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition
Software	Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit

System Name	SnowFire / The Reinforcer
Processor	i7 10700K 5.1ghz (24/7) / 2x Xeon E52650v2
Motherboard	Asus Strix Z490 / Dell Dual Socket (R720)
Cooling	RX 360mm + 140mm Custom Loop / Dell Stock
Memory	Corsair RGB 16gb DDR4 3000 CL 16 / DDR3 128gb 16 x 8gb
Video Card(s)	GTX Titan XP (2025mhz) / Asus GTX 950 (No Power Connector)
Storage	Samsung 970 1tb NVME and 2tb HDD x4 RAID 5 / 300gb x8 RAID 5
Display(s)	Acer XG270HU, Samsung G7 Odyssey (1440p 240hz)
Case	Thermaltake Cube / Dell Poweredge R720 Rack Mount Case
Audio Device(s)	Realtec ALC1150 (On board)
Power Supply	Rosewill Lightning 1300Watt / Dell Stock 750 / Brick
Mouse	Logitech G5
Keyboard	Logitech G19S
Software	Windows 11 Pro / Windows Server 2016

Processor	Intel i7 10700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero
Cooling	2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140
Memory	32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s)	EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s)	Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case	Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s)	I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply	Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse	Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard	Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard )
Software	Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	My PC runs FiFA

System Name	TITAN Slayer / CPUCannon / MassFX
Processor	i7 5960X @ 4.6Ghz / i7 3960x @5.0Ghz / FX6350 @ 4.?Ghz
Motherboard	Rampage V Extreme / Rampage IV Extreme / MSI 970 Gaming
Cooling	Phanteks PHTC14PE 2.5K 145mm TRs / Custom waterloop / Phanteks PHTC14PE + 3K 140mm Noctuas
Memory	Crucial 2666 11-13-13-25 1.45V / G.skill RipjawsX 2400 10-12-12-34 1.7V / Crucial 2133 9-9-9-27 1.7V
Video Card(s)	3 Fury X in CF / R9 Fury 3840 cores 1145/570 1.3V / Nothing ATM
Storage	500GB Crucial SSD and 3TB WD Black / WD 1TB Black(OS) + WD 3TB Green / WD 1TB Blue
Display(s)	LG 29UM67 80Hz/Asus mx299q 2560x1080 @ 84Hz / Asus VX239 1920x1080 @60hz
Case	Dismatech easy v3.0 / Xigmatek Alfar (Open side panel)
Audio Device(s)	M-audio M-track / realtek ALC 1150
Power Supply	EVGA G2 1600W / CoolerMaster V1000 / Seasonic 620 M12-II
Mouse	Mouse in review process/Razer Naga Epic 2011/Razer Naga 2014
Keyboard	Keyboard in review process / Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2014/Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2011
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate / Windows 7 ultimate / Windows 7 ultimate
Benchmark Scores	cinebench 15.41 3960x @ 5.3ghz Wprime32m 3.352 3960x @ 5.25ghz Super PI 32m: 6m 42s 472ms @5.25ghz

Making a switch...

Devon68

CrackerJack

MxPhenom 216

ASIC Engineer

GhostRyder

FireFox

The Power Of Intel

buildzoid

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
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Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
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VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
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