Performance Issue - WoW - 100% HDD Usage - Laggy

[Bachbaabach]

All say memory, i think gpu

 

[Aquinus]

Aquinus, got pc with a lot of ram (Core2 Duo, 4 gb memory). System stable (Windows XP) amount of memory encrease loading of OS and all apps very much, but i doubt it will encrease gaming experience. As for me i don't mentioned it in WoW: Cataclysm (busting memory from 2 Gb to 4 Gb)

I would have believed that years ago, but not today. He also isn't running XP so the OS takes up a lot more physical memory.

I do'nt know if is true, but a friend of mine said that if my GPU cant handle it will drain memory from RAM. Is that true?

Only if you're running out of video ram. That's a completely different problem. Running out of VRAM would be bad performance across the board, and we're talking 1-10 FPS slow, all the time.

All say memory, i think gpu

I think you're wrong since the OP has already clearly stated that it happens only when he re-maximizes the game after minimizing it and that it's resulting in HDD usage (swap space is getting hit.) Stop trying to mislead the OP...

 

[Bachbaabach]

Seems like GPU in near future will be selling in pairs ^_^

I don't know any software that monitores amount of used video memory

 

[Aquinus]

Seems like GPU in near future will be selling in pairs ^_^

What?

I don't know any software that monitores amount of used video memory

MSI Afterburner.

 

[Bachbaabach]

he was kissing :teeth:

 

[Aquinus]

he was kissing :teeth:

I still have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

 

[nunomoreira10]

you could have a broken hard drive, that is usualy one of the simptons

 

[Paladone]

Hello,

I'm experiencing some performance issues with a combination of some softwares running simultaneously

My PC Set it's something about 2009/2010 set:
i7 860 @2.80Ghz
MB: Asrock H55M-LE
Memory: 2x2GB Kingston 1066Mhz or 1333Mhz (Dont remember)
GPU: MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB dedicated 128bits
HDD: Seagate 500GB
PSU: Thermaltake 550
Case: Thermaltake M7
Default CPU Cooling
Win 8.1 Pro - Original

The combo software are:

World Of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor;
Curse Client;
Kaspersky AV 2014;
Tukui Client;
FRAPS (for fps measure only).

I used to play WoW on Ultra when was WoTLK. (but now i ran all on low except of Distance view that is on ultra)

When i do the ALT + TAB the computer acts so slow like micro freeze when i open the task manager it shows a 100% of HDD usage and some times it says that is my AV other times the curse client, in fact when i try to maximize curse client it take several seconds to maximize and when it does it only a white page and then after another several seconds appears the content. WoW sometimes show a consumption more than 1.2Gb of memory (just when it became several minutes minimized and when i maximize the game is very laggy).

I don't have money to a complete pc upgrade, but maybe be able to buy some computer parts next year.

What should i buy to resolve these 100% HDD usage and memory usage?

Samsung 840 Evo 250Gb for OS and some games?

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 1600Mhz? (My MB accepts 8GB only)

Or change my actual GPU: MSI R5770 Hawk 1GB dedicated 128bits?

The biggest change is going to come from a GPU upgrade. I do however have the 840 evo and I can safely say that it runs great; though this would not fix your issue. One thing to note though is that most of the quality settings such as textures won't have anywhere near as big of an impact as the view distance; this would stress your gpu the most. I doubt 1GB of VRAM would be sufficient to run WoW on ultra and definitely would not be if you run multiple monitors. Should also be noted that WoW doesn't require much at all even to be run at max settings. I play it on my PC with two overclocked 780TIi's and I have friends who are able to run it at the same settings at around the same FPS with no more than a single 760. 4GB of RAM is enough to run WoW but not much more. The bottleneck in any realistic system when it comes to wow is also going to be the CPU, though this is due to the style of the game and how outdated the technology is. So realistically a GPU upgrade would be the most beneficial for you in my opinion. You could even get say a slightly cheaper GPU and an extra 4GB of RAM which would make a significant difference. However in terms of the issue you described, it seems additional RAM alone would be the best option.

 

[Calebe Costa]

The biggest change is going to come from a GPU upgrade. I do however have the 840 evo and I can safely say that it runs great; though this would not fix your issue. One thing to note though is that most of the quality settings such as textures won't have anywhere near as big of an impact as the view distance; this would stress your gpu the most. I doubt 1GB of VRAM would be sufficient to run WoW on ultra and definitely would not be if you run multiple monitors. Should also be noted that WoW doesn't require much at all even to be run at max settings. I play it on my PC with two overclocked 780TIi's and I have friends who are able to run it at the same settings at around the same FPS with no more than a single 760. 4GB of RAM is enough to run WoW but not much more. The bottleneck in any realistic system when it comes to wow is also going to be the CPU, though this is due to the style of the game and how outdated the technology is. So realistically a GPU upgrade would be the most beneficial for you in my opinion. You could even get say a slightly cheaper GPU and an extra 4GB of RAM which would make a significant difference. However in terms of the issue you described, it seems additional RAM alone would be the best option.

Which one is the most beneficial?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8924216&CatId=7387
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8905320&CatId=4224

 

[Aquinus]

Which one is the most beneficial?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8924216&CatId=7387
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8905320&CatId=4224

Neither, you need to fix your memory bottleneck. 8GB will solve the problem you're describing. A new GPU won't solve this problem.

The biggest change is going to come from a GPU upgrade.

Not when he's running out of memory and there are clear cut signs up that. Stop trying to get this poor guy to buy hardware he doesn't need. A new GPU will do him little good when he continues to trash because he's running out of system memory.

Smarten up people, stop making bad recommendations and look at the problem for what it is. The OP described his troubles and it can't be any more clear cut than running out of physical memory. The 5770 might not be the fastest GPU but it's not the problem he is trying to solve.

you could have a broken hard drive, that is usualy one of the simptons

There would be a lot more symptoms than just loading slow after he maximizes from the game being minimized. The game and Windows would also load unbearably slow if that were the case. The OP was quite clear on what is happening and when.

 

[xvi]

Historically, WoW hasn't been GPU bound anyways. Not too sure about the latest expansion though.
I've been using my HTPC build as my main computer for the past while. It only has 4GB of memory too and all I can say is I have no idea how I survived with only that much memory in the past. Even my laptop, which generally only sees light use, is having difficulty keeping up, although part of that is the slower drive in it.
My HTCP is constantly thrashing the hard drive for swap. I currently have a healthy dose of tabs open in Chrome and Civilization 3 running in the background and it's murder. YouTube videos lock up, task manager takes forever to launch when I try to troubleshoot the issue, even the Win 8 start screen actually has to grind away loading tiles at times.

I have to strongly agree that bumping up memory is the top priority here.

 

[Calebe Costa]

Neither, you need to fix your memory bottleneck. 8GB will solve the problem you're describing. A new GPU won't solve this problem.

Not when he's running out of memory and there are clear cut signs up that. Stop trying to get this poor guy to buy hardware he doesn't need. A new GPU will do him little good when he continues to trash because he's running out of system memory.

Smarten up people, stop making bad recommendations and look at the problem for what it is. The OP described his troubles and it can't be any more clear cut than running out of physical memory. The 5770 might not be the fastest GPU but it's not the problem he is trying to solve.


There would be a lot more symptoms than just loading slow after he maximizes from the game being minimized. The game and Windows would also load unbearably slow if that were the case. The OP was quite clear on what is happening and when.

LoL i'm a poor guy.
Thanks for every help here. December 14 is my b-day so i'll see if i can raise funds for my new memory upgrade. Peace out in Jesus Name.

 

[Mussels]

What memory is the best for the price? 2x4gb or 8gb only?

I think this is the "best" one: cl8

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7446272&CatId=11478

Since you cant ugprade later, you need to get 2x4GB. Dual channel is almost twice as fast as single channel, and you need matching sticks for that.

 

[Paladone]

Neither, you need to fix your memory bottleneck. 8GB will solve the problem you're describing. A new GPU won't solve this problem.

Not when he's running out of memory and there are clear cut signs up that. Stop trying to get this poor guy to buy hardware he doesn't need. A new GPU will do him little good when he continues to trash because he's running out of system memory.

Smarten up people, stop making bad recommendations and look at the problem for what it is. The OP described his troubles and it can't be any more clear cut than running out of physical memory. The 5770 might not be the fastest GPU but it's not the problem he is trying to solve.


There would be a lot more symptoms than just loading slow after he maximizes from the game being minimized. The game and Windows would also load unbearably slow if that were the case. The OP was quite clear on what is happening and when.

I know he needs more memory but could he not get an extra 4gb and a new card? 16gb is OTT for WoW

 

[Aquinus]

I know he needs more memory but could he not get an extra 4gb and a new card? 16gb is OTT for WoW

Read the thread?

LoL i'm a poor guy.

 

[Mussels]

too many people commenting without having read the thread.

Please tread the entire 2 1/2 pages of this thread before offering advice - he's definitely out of ram, and he can only go 1x8GB or 2x4GB due to motherboard limitations.

 

[Bachbaabach]

I do'nt know if is true, but a friend of mine said that if my GPU cant handle it will drain memory from RAM. Is that true?

Video card can burn also.

I would have believed that years ago, but not today. He also isn't running XP so the OS takes up a lot more physical memory.

Seeing is not believing. Gaming is not working with software and operational system.

Also i need to add that i'm running Kaspersky all the time (for the moment of upgrade too).
When i was sure i'm on the right way, i go to shop, buy pair 2x1Gb memory and the most silly thing that they was different DDR type, and simply not fit my motherboard, so all i want to say is that it needed to be checked before going to the shop.

I'm not trying to mislead, i'm trying to light some issues that may leak when doing memory upgrade..

 

[Warrgarbl]

Just btw - WoW has a keyboard shortcut for an FPS display. If that is all you use Fraps for you can just press CTRL+R and you'll have an FPS counter

 

[Aquinus]

Video card can burn also.

Burn? As in on fire? Anything hardware on fire would be in trouble?
If the GPU was at fault, there wouldn't be clear cut signs that he's running out of memory.

Seeing is not believing. Gaming is not working with software and operational system.

If we can't take a posters word for his problem, the forum wouldn't exist. I think we can take the OP's word that things as happening as he describes.

When i was sure i'm on the right way, i go to shop, buy pair 2x1Gb memory and the most silly thing that they was different DDR type, and simply not fit my motherboard, so all i want to say is that it needed to be checked before going to the shop.

DDR(1)? I think the nineties wants their DRAM back. 1-2GB back then was a whole lot different than 1-2GB now. Software has changed and so have computers. Also, it's very clear (if you did some research) that his motherboard accepts unregistered non-ECC DDR3 DIMMs and that the CPU doesn't need to do much more than 1600Mhz. That's enough to get compatible DRAM.

I'm not trying to mislead, i'm trying to light some issues that may leak when doing memory upgrade..

Except you're speaking about non-issues and keep bringing up the GPU. I can assure you that the GPU is not his problem for the issues he's describing.

he's definitely out of ram, and he can only go 1x8GB or 2x4GB due to motherboard limitations.

Motherboard limitations restricts him to 4GB per DIMM slot, at least that is what the website for his motherboard said (I thought). So the only way he's going to run 8GB is with two 4GB DDR3 DIMMs.

 

[Mussels]

Video card can burn also.


Seeing is not believing. Gaming is not working with software and operational system.

Also i need to add that i'm running Kaspersky all the time (for the moment of upgrade too).
When i was sure i'm on the right way, i go to shop, buy pair 2x1Gb memory and the most silly thing that they was different DDR type, and simply not fit my motherboard, so all i want to say is that it needed to be checked before going to the shop.

I'm not trying to mislead, i'm trying to light some issues that may leak when doing memory upgrade..

so far you've said a bunch of things that make zero sense at all, and are trying to scare him that his hardware will die in ways that are pure fiction.
Please stop crapping up the thread with nonsense.

Motherboard limitations restricts him to 4GB per DIMM slot, at least that is what the website for his motherboard said (I thought). So the only way he's going to run 8GB is with two 4GB DDR3 DIMMs.

The OP brought up 1x8GB himself, i assumed from that the board had an 8GB total limit, not 4GB per channel. 2x4 is what i've been recommending anyway.

 

[Bachbaabach]

I believe you can run on ultra if you remove the Shadow.

Okay, today i will try ultra with shadow off

 

[Calebe Costa]

In any moment have i mentioned i have a samsung monitor that alowed me only 1360x768 MONITOR LCD 18.5 (933SN+) PRETO? Please include this in the records. I told my wife about buying a new monitor, but she says that if we buy something like that is a new TV. Our actual tv are an old Sony 29' CRT.

 

[Bachbaabach]

I choose Philips 32'' , before that was square old tv (not flat). At the time looking for monitor now i have 17'' Dell.
I think she is right, good luck in choosing new tv!

PS You also can connect tv to pc via HDMI cable.

PS2 Forget to check ultra ...

 

[Calebe Costa]

Hello guys!

It's me again. So i talked with my autie that are going to MIA MCO for vacation and pass through new year. I told her to buy this item:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7446272&CatId=11478

And i would like to know wich one is better, for my next aquisition:

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-608124262-ssd-128gb-samsung-850-pro-25-sata-3-mz-7ke128bw-_JM

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...0-evo-120gb-sata-3-6gbs-3gbs-up-to-540-mb-_JM

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...ng-840-evo-250gb-tlc-sata3-6gbs-25-540mbs-_JM

After that and maybe last will be the VGA.

Remember the SSD will be for OS, WoW and Dota 2 Purpose. Other games will stay on my HDD.

 

[Mussels]

that ram looks good, and is quite low voltage - it will run cold and should live for a long time.

samsung SSD's have a really good reputation as one of the most reliable SSD's on the market just pick the one that suits you best for size and budget.