AMD Catalyst 14.12 Omega Performance Analysis

[RCoon]

In your front-page article you mentioned "specific performance improvements target Batman: Arkham Origins, Bioshock Infinite, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Grid 2"... Although, here you choose not to substantiate those claims?

it stands to reason that W1zzard's benchmark suite will likely differ from that of other staff members. Wouldn't it be more apropos to PM W1zzard regarding these games rather than hit up a staff member who maybe doesn't have the games in hand?

I'm happy to run a host of prior and post Omega driver benchmarks for those game titles.

Just send me a 290X and we're golden

 

[Casecutter]

Here's a thought....maybe bta doesn't have the games to hand

Unless you're under the impression that TPU's staff all live together, it stands to reason that W1zzard's benchmark suite will likely differ from that of other staff members. Wouldn't it be more apropos to PM W1zzard regarding these games rather than hit up a staff member who maybe doesn't have the games in hand? It's also fairly likely that at the next round of graphics card reviews in the new year, W1zzard would be applying the driver - or its successor, no? Since AMD themselves have said that the driver will be more fully inclusive in January/February ( bug fixes, feature support - resolutions, first generation GCN series (HD 7900, 7800/R7 etc) it is reasonable to assume that this future release will be more representative.
Seems a little pointless to run a comprehensive review of the features when not all models within the current product stack are supported. For every satisfied customer you could end up with a few frowns from those left on the sidelines.

They don't need to live together they just need to let the resident staff member that does GPU testing do that testing. The staff should've made a concerted decision to present quantifiable testing, rather project this as pertinent data that we've come to trust from TPU. I look forward to W1zzard evaluating these claim on both the performance and power.

 

[tomkaten]

HD 7850 isn't supported.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalystOMEGAWINReleaseNotes.aspx

?? AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series, it's in your link. Am I missing something ?

 

[GLD]

did you use display driver uninstaller or did you just reinstall over 14.9? Sometimes that can make all the difference.

I always uninstall the drivers through the control panel and install fresh. I did a fresh dl both times. I may try the Omegas again on my AM2 board with a 5750 gpu running Win 7 basic. (Win 7 basic isn't half bad tweaking it with the God Mode folder)

 

[KainXS]

?? AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series, it's in your link. Am I missing something ?

tried it on one of my 7850's, works fine, sucks that almost every new feature is only for apu's and the newer R7/9 chips and not the Radeon 7K series, still gonna sit with my 7970's though.

 

[spydir]

tried it on one of my 7850's, works fine, sucks that almost every new feature is only for apu's and the newer R7/9 chips and not the Radeon 7K series, still gonna sit with my 7970's though.

I have downloaded the software twice, uninstalled the old drivers the first time with driversweeper, and I still can't get the driver to install with my xfired 7850s. what did you do to get them installed?

 

[btarunr]

They don't need to live together they just need to let the resident staff member that does GPU testing do that testing. The staff should've made a concerted decision to present quantifiable testing, rather project this as pertinent data that we've come to trust from TPU. I look forward to W1zzard evaluating these claim on both the performance and power.

Nah, W1zzard did't want to do this. You don't find my review sufficient (five tests at three resolutions, for two drivers, tested thrice each (that's 5*3*2=30 data points, 90 individual tests)), you choose with your browser.

 

[Mussels]

tried it on one of my 7850's, works fine, sucks that almost every new feature is only for apu's and the newer R7/9 chips and not the Radeon 7K series, still gonna sit with my 7970's though.

i read elsewhere that some of these features will be back ported to older cards later, still no idea if our 7970's count for that.

 

[vega22]

CRU never allowed me to change anything. VSR is the only thing that works properly for me.

sorry dude but you must be doing it wrong :/

 

[HumanSmoke]

i read elsewhere that some of these features will be back ported to older cards later, still no idea if our 7970's count for that.

AMD have said that January/February is the time frame....so, mark February 28th on your calendar.

Couldn't find the Catalyst driver team(?) announcement for Jan/Feb, but another site put a few specific questions to AMD and their replies seem to indicate the same (see the update at the bottom of the page).

 

[Casecutter]

Nah, W1zzard did't want to do this. You don't find my review sufficient (five tests at three resolutions, for two drivers, tested thrice each (that's 5*3*2=30 data points, 90 individual tests)), you choose with your browser.

I apologize it's not that it isn't sufficient in its own right, it's just that with W1zzard have established historical data, it would've been nice to see those specific titles ran on that developed test set-up. More not to just see FpS, but power and if there's a specific change in the power to garner those scores. With each game having the driver written to offer specific boost profiles, if they offer improvements along with really jockeying around with the max boost it might not be all that impressive.


Anymore they probably work hard to "optimize" just a few titles that reviewers use to establish power. If you know that Metro Last Light, Hitman or BF4 are what most of the prominent reviewers' use to establish power and use that to arrive at average perf/watt. I'd surrender a few FsP especially it a title may architexture has a large advantage, if it provides all my "boosted" titles the appearance of enhanced efficiency. Going forward I see both sides juggle a few known titles that reviewers use for efficiency, while the bulk of the others are let to run unbridled. I guess my problem is I'd like to see power numbers pulled for every game going forward, as there's ways to fiddle with the impression of efficiency.

 

[KainXS]

I have downloaded the software twice, uninstalled the old drivers the first time with driversweeper, and I still can't get the driver to install with my xfired 7850s. what did you do to get them installed?

installed right over the old catalyst betas with no problem

But I did hear from some people that if you installed Windows Update KB3004394, This update will fail on some radeon 7K cards but was I had both and it worked anyway.

 

[Rhamape]

brand new here so sorry if i'm in the wrong thread
OK i've tried this driver on both my pc and my daughters
i have a gigabyte wind-force R9 290 rev 1
my daughters pc has an amd apu 5800k
as i would always do, i removed all evidence of amd drivers on my pc prior to install
the screen went black during install and would not recover until i forced my pc to restart
on boot up no aero and faulty catalyst software and drivers, tells me no drivers are installed for my gpu
even though when you right click on the desktop it shows catalyst control centre
reverted to my old driver and everything sweet, well as sweet as you can get with a gigabyte r9 290 (86 degrees under load temp bull) lol

on my daughters pc not so easy an install as you have chipset drivers too (were combined in the old driver package) but the omega driver doesn't come with the chipset and has to be downloaded and installed separately
so not knowing what to do here, i installed the omega driver without uninstalling anything
didnt get the black screen but did say the driver had installed correctly but the pc needed to be restarted for the driver to take effect
restarted and same as my pc. no functional driver or catalyst software
reverted to old driver

i can only imagine i'm doing something wrong as the install failed on both pc but ive owned amd gpu's for years and never experience a driver failure @ install
any ideas

 

[AsRock]

Fill in your system specs so it be easier for people to help you.

I just installed over the old drivers as i don't like to mess around with crap DDU and a like and had no issue's.

 

[Mussels]

i installed over the top. i always say in all of these threads: those cleaners do more harm than good. they break things so that you NEED to use them.


I dirty upgrade every time unless the release notes say not to, and i never have issues.

 

[olstyle]

is it possible for a registry edit to allow 3840 x 2400 on a R9 290?

No it isn't.
This is a technical limitation since (in the moment) AMD uses the rescale SIP of the GPU to scale down back to desktop resolution. I expect the next update (the one which is said to support all GCN cores) to enable shader-downscale which would in theory work with all resolutions.

 

[Athlonite]

HD 7850 isn't supported.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalystOMEGAWINReleaseNotes.aspx

um they installed fine here and I have two HD7850 cards so must be something else perhaps try using DDU first before installing

 

[Rhamape]

OK I've filled in my pc specs sheet if you guys wouldn't mind having a look with the possibility of some insight into my problem with this driver
can't see what you will get unless you know of something i dont but thats the point right haha
as for installing clean
i did it manually, as im sure many of you guys have done many a reinstall you find out where all the amd stuff is
ive not tried installing over my old driver yet
may be i should try that and get back to you ?

 

[wiak]

was nvidia or futuremark first with downscaled 4k? like VSR?
i did notice 3dmark got a render at 4k and scale down feature

 

[Mussels]

must have been posted in anothre thread, but the reason it wont install for some people in win 7 is a windows update issue. install the latest updates and it should be resolved.

 

[newtekie1]

Awesome, this driver totally breaks the already buggy HDMI scaling.

How is it that AMD can't get something so simple right and are actually going backwards...

 

[Mussels]

Awesome, this driver totally breaks the already buggy HDMI scaling.

How is it that AMD can't get something so simple right and are actually going backwards...

whats your problem with the scaling? its working fine for me here, HDMI is all i use

 

[newtekie1]

whats your problem with the scaling? its working fine for me here, HDMI is all i use

The OverScan/Underscan slider is grayed out so I can't adjust it and it is set all the way up. So I have black bars all the way around my screen.

 

[Mussels]

not greyed out here, works fine.

image goes a bit funky when i slide it around (flickers) but it works as intended.

 

[Steevo]

The OverScan/Underscan slider is grayed out so I can't adjust it and it is set all the way up. So I have black bars all the way around my screen.

Are you pushing it into a monitor or a TV? I have to choose Game mode on my TV to get it to quit over scanning and then I don't have to adjust anything in CCC