New AC Router Great Ping Still Lag, Packet Loss?

Aquinus · Dec 18, 2014

Try using the 2.4Ghz. At my in-law's house, I can't use the 802.11ac in certain rooms because the 5Ghz signal is too noisy where the 2.4Ghz signal will be fine.

eidairaman1 · Dec 18, 2014

It could be your circuit goin outside to the node/co

remixedcat · Dec 18, 2014

Check for interference and change channels

AphexDreamer · Dec 18, 2014

95Viper said:
Don't know which Nighthawk you have... However, update the firmware to the latest, if it is not already.
The newer firmwares improve connection and/or stability, as well as a host of other items.

Yeah it told me to update on install. I haven't had a DC since those two back to back instances so hopefully tomorrow morning it will maintain it streak.

I don't think its interference at least not with other wifi internet signals.

I am trying to understand this whole AC tech. Seems fairly new still.

Shou Miko · Dec 18, 2014

remixedcat said:
Blekin owns linksys now and they blekkined it with blek

ain't it Cisco that owns Linksys? i have seen several of Linksys products labelled Linksys by Cisco or i could be wrong :laugh:

but do as others say search for channels and see what channels are most used in your range, and take one that's not in use or one that don't have many users...

i use my android phone with inSSIDer app to look where i am for what channels that don't have much traffic or ain't used at all.

Aquinus · Dec 18, 2014

AphexDreamer said:
I don't think its interference at least not with other wifi internet signals.

Neither do my in-laws, but the 5Ghz attenuated too much by going through several walls where the 2.4Ghz was still solid. It's also worth noting that the router's radio might be louder than the one on your computer so it could be a single direction that the traffic is having trouble with. Either way, try ruling out the 5Ghz network.

remixedcat · Dec 18, 2014

puma99dk| said:
ain't it Cisco that owns Linksys? i have seen several of Linksys products labelled Linksys by Cisco or i could be wrong

but do as others say search for channels and see what channels are most used in your range, and take one that's not in use or one that don't have many users...

i use my android phone with inSSIDer app to look where i am for what channels that don't have much traffic or ain't used at all.

Nope Blekin bought them off cisco a few years back

Aquinus · Dec 18, 2014

remixedcat said:
Nope Blekin bought them off cisco a few years back

2 years ago in January 2015.

AphexDreamer · Dec 18, 2014

Main routers wifi is disabled. Had another DC at 9:20 AM seems like around the same time as yesterday but now I've logged it. We'll see if this occurs like clockwork every morning. I can handle that although I'd prefer not having it.

xvi · Dec 18, 2014

Aquinus said:
Try using the 2.4Ghz. At my in-law's house, I can't use the 802.11ac in certain rooms because the 5Ghz signal is too noisy where the 2.4Ghz signal will be fine.

Aquinus said:
Neither do my in-laws, but the 5Ghz attenuated too much by going through several walls where the 2.4Ghz was still solid. It's also worth noting that the router's radio might be louder than the one on your computer so it could be a single direction that the traffic is having trouble with. Either way, try ruling out the 5Ghz network.

5.8 doesn't go through physical obstruction as well as 2.4. Trust me, I'm tech support for a WISP. It fuels my nightmares.

AphexDreamer · Dec 18, 2014

xvi said:
5.8 doesn't go through physical obstruction as well as 2.4. Trust me, I'm tech support for a WISP. It fuels my nightmares.

Even with full signal strength ?

xvi · Dec 18, 2014

AphexDreamer said:
Even with full signal strength ?

Going through trees or something, signal strength will bounce around as the wind blows. It'll be great one second and completely gone the next. 2.4 might tolerate a tree or two depending on the tree, but it's not nearly as nice as the 900MHz band for that stuff.
Here's my 2.4 connection going through trees about 3-5 miles (seems like most fluctuations are due to the weather)..

..and here's a 5.8 shot with clear line of sight. They're in two different locations, so weather won't match up, but they both have to deal with wind/rain. When it's not going through physical obstruction, the radios don't care about weather too much.

Noise floor on both is around -90.

remixedcat · Dec 18, 2014

Yey another PRTG user!!!

xvi · Dec 18, 2014

remixedcat said:
Yey another PRTG user!!!

We're up against our 2500 sensor license limit and don't want to shell out for the unlimited, so we're looking in to alternatives. SolarWinds didn't work well with us and we're looking at NetBrain now, but it doesn't like the server I'm trying to install it on. I don't blame it. It's a dual P4 Xeon.
Glad someone understands my pain.

remixedcat · Dec 18, 2014

50 sensors on mine and maxed lel

I love it tho and it work fine on the system in my specs

xvi · Dec 18, 2014

I'll trade you.

The Dual P4 Xeon is just something we had around the shop that we're using for evals. PRTG is running on considerably nicer hardware. Never uses more than 3-4GB of memory anyways.

Edit: We should get back on topic.

remixedcat · Dec 18, 2014

Gimme your sensors!!!

Op... are the cards reltek based??

AphexDreamer · Dec 18, 2014

Its this one.

http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-adapters/a6200.aspx

Not sure if realtek?

I've only experienced the DC when I wake my PC from sleep and try to open a game it seems. But its only happened twice but under very similar circumstances both times.

remixedcat · Dec 18, 2014

I think its an ralink

Ohwait its a Broadcom..

My 6210 has the ralink/mediatek

Aquinus · Dec 19, 2014

AphexDreamer said:
I've only experienced the DC when I wake my PC from sleep and try to open a game it seems.

My AE2500 doesn't like waking up from sleep and it has a broadcom chip in it. For my case, I think it has something to do with how the motherboard controls the USB ports since you can enable "USB charging" when the computer is off. I suspect what happens with mine is that it never shuts the USB port off after the device has been signaled to shutdown and it can't reset when the machine comes back on.

xvi · Dec 19, 2014

Aphex, don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, try grabbing a utility like PingPlotter and ping the AP/router that you're connected to. You should be able to see if it's a wireless issue or a router issue depending on what you ping. Don't forget to set the ping interval to 1 second.

eidairaman1 · Dec 19, 2014

id have them check your network via cpe realtime, sai, nid, and quality test, along with selt and amt. ATT RGs only last about 6 years at best due to having to handle TV service too whether through Ethernet or Coax. I don't think any 3800/3801 is Brand New anymore. I only think the Arris 589 is and you want a UPS for any ATT RG.

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