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I'm torn here.

I've got too many games already, and nothing on the Steam sale looks worth it yet. The inclusion of this gem mechanic is simply a ploy by Valve to start depopulating their market, and force item prices up.

At the same time, who actually cares about the trading cards and levels? They seem to functionally be irrelevant. Am I missing something?

On the other hand, a sale of decent games is always nice. Hopefully the next few days of the winter sale are far more interesting.

How do the gems work exactly that make you think Valve is depopulating their market?
 
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At the same time, who actually cares about the trading cards and levels? They seem to functionally be irrelevant. Am I missing something?
It's just there for bragging rights. It gives you a little icon that tells everyone you threw a bunch of money at Steam. If you don't have it, then that obviously means your friends are better than you and they'll call you names or whatever. Unless you want that to happen, you better spend lots of money during the sale. :rolleyes:
It's also a reward to make you feel a little better about Steam taking your money.
 
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How do the gems work exactly that make you think Valve is depopulating their market?

In order to get gems you break down items in your inventory. Items in your inventory include emoticons, cards, and the like.

By having items with value (there is a market place) traded for a non-cash currency, you can get people to convert non-cash rewards back into another non-cash currency. Converting from items to gems is a sink of resources. Valve makes this clear because it takes about 750 gems to make a 3 card pack, but those three cards sell for 75 total gems. Utilizing this, people eliminate items from inventory, spend real money on items to convert into gems, and actually wind up with less goods than they initially had. Valve is getting people to inflate the value of goods, by decreasing the quantity of them.



Looking at one example.
1) I have 20 items in my inventory, which can be converted into 750 gems. Valve has set the conversion to this value, but it can be modified dynamically based on total inventory of items available.
2) I create a card pack for my 750 gems, because I cannot possibly afford a game at that price.
3) I get three cards, which trade for 25 gems a piece.
4) I have converted 750 gems into 75, a 90% reduction in electronic goods.
5) If each user takes their existing item inventory and does this process with 80% of it twice, you have 0.8% of the initial inventory remaining.
6) If only 20.8% of the inventories exist, then each item will quintuple in value to make up for the scarcity of the resources.
7) Valve dynamically drives that 90% reduction, until the average cost of everything is where they want it, which is easy because they dynamically track inventory.
8) Valve drives up market place prices, which increases their cut on transactions. Said transactions are permanently inflated (with a dynamic control system of gem conversion), thus making Valve more money consistently.
9) Have customers bid against one another, creating a competition where gem value is depleted. Those who "win" the "free" games have spent real money without knowing it, because it is two-three step removed. They feel like the game is free, while still paying real money for it.
10) All of the games "given" away are paid for in a month (or less) by the increased profits on market transactions. Everything after this is just money in the bank for Valve.


Hopefully that explain my point simply enough. If you want stats, look at card values. Steam tracks the average sales price over time, and there has been a distinct spike in values since the 15th.
 
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^ so you're saying, sit on your stuff, wait for the noobs to purge theirs, and then sell your stuff for 3x what you would have gotten before?
Because thats what I plan to do. Have already gotten several 5$ gaves for free via the item sales, would be interesting to get a 10 or 15$ title for free, especially if it's really a 40 or 60$ title on sale for 10 or 15 lol.
 
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Well its painfully obvious that the gems are not worth what you trade them in for. Not to mention the gems are going to be temporary it seems?

I just didn't see how it effected the entire steam market.
 

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so sorry....:cry:
Not all that bad, considering I get free games (olds but golds) and it's not buggy for me. Works as well as Steam to be honest.

Steam and Origin play nice on the terabyte drive. Hell even some Nexon Corp and Ubisoft games play nicely. No bugs at all.
 

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Haha, Depth hit 40% off so I may have to pick it up tomorrow.


Also, GMG is having their Winter Sale now, and use WINTER-SALE20-GROGRE for an additional 20% off :D
 
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Haha, Depth hit 40% off so I may have to pick it up tomorrow.


Also, GMG is having their Winter Sale now, and use WINTER-SALE20-GROGRE for an additional 20% off :D

They are so cheap that if use the code on top you might end up receiving money rather than spending...
 

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By having items with value (there is a market place) traded for a non-cash currency, you can get people to convert non-cash rewards back into another non-cash currency. Converting from items to gems is a sink of resources. Valve makes this clear because it takes about 750 gems to make a 3 card pack, but those three cards sell for 75 total gems. Utilizing this, people eliminate items from inventory, spend real money on items to convert into gems, and actually wind up with less goods than they initially had. Valve is getting people to inflate the value of goods, by decreasing the quantity of them.
Exactly why I'm not touching gems/auctions.

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Shadowrun Returns for $3:
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Sanctum 2 for $3:
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Wow, Steam Sale sucks again!
 

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Well is it just me or have the sales been really bad this year?

Oh, I was just messing with you. Honestly, the sales have been eh, but I reckon that's because we have become spoiled. So far, not many games have come up that I'm concerned about, other than Depth, which I may still grab, as well as Metro Redux, but I was kind of hoping for more than 50% off (talk about spoiled ;))
 

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Well is it just me or have the sales been really bad this year?
I think I can concur. It seems like I bought a lot more last year than this year. I don't know if that's a function of me owning everything I'm interested in already or if the prices aren't low enough for me to be interested.
 
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Dammit Bobby.

Now that I have money, I'm buying pretty much everything on my wishlist, specifically below $20-$30.

Spent $8 last daily sale, spending $29 now... :(

Damn you Gaben.
 

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Gabe hasn't gotten any money from me on this sale.......yet. ;) I will probably crack before the Winter Sale is over but between Steam, GOG and Origin I have about 50 games that I haven't even touched and almost all of those are AAA titles. It's ridiculous I know. I have to stop going back and playing old stuff and put a dent in my new games.
 
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Quick and stupid question before the next round of steam sales comes in < 1 hour. If I buy a 2-pack of Portal 2 for $6.99, am I able to gift someone with the other copy? Or do I have to initially buy it as a gift versus for myself?
 
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Cool, I've always wanted to try out this game. This is the biggest slash in price for this game that I've seen to date. It'll be nice to gift to someone for the holidays, probably my cousin. The game looks pretty good. Judging from Portal 1, I'm sure I won't be disappointed :)
 
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