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somebody will be taking pot shots at at it ...
idiotic ...
Well, 10k feet is almost 2 miles. There aren't a lot of rounds that can go that far straight up and have a lot of punch left. Plus, that would be shooting straight from underneath. Mostly likely, that's not where you would want to be standing I would think.

edit: I also assume that they're going to use something like ballistic nylon in the construction so it shouldn't be like punching through a balloon, at least I hope not.
 

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If you think these are for outside attacks I got a bridge to sell ya.
 

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Well, 10k feet is almost 2 miles. There aren't a lot of rounds that can go that far straight up and have a lot of punch left. Plus, that would be shooting straight from underneath. Mostly likely, that's not where you would want to be standing I would think.

edit: I also assume that they're going to use something like ballistic nylon in the construction so it shouldn't be like punching through a balloon, at least I hope not.
whos talking about bullets .
 
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somebody will be taking pot shots at at it ...
idiotic ...


U can light these things up and they wont come down. We have smaller ones in afghanistan and they're littered with bullet holes when they get pulled down for maintenance.
 

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U can light these things up and they wont come down. We have smaller ones in afghanistan and they're littered with bullet holes when they get pulled down for maintenance.
dam where does a civi go to buy a FIM-92J Stinger ...
 
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dam where does a civi go to buy a FIM-92J Stinger ...

lol they had one break loose last year and had to use an F-16 to down it....

They're great surveillance platforms at bases, ridiculous force multiplier.
 
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lol they had one break loose last year and had to use an F-16 to down it....

They're great surveillance platforms at bases, ridiculous force multiplier.
OMG, that is just too f**king funny. :eek:
 

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lol they had one break loose last year and had to use an F-16 to down it....

They're great surveillance platforms at bases, ridiculous force multiplier.
yes but do we _need_ one stateside
I thing everybody is growing quiet tired of the "terror threat" being used as justification for this kind of stuff I am all for kicking the bad guys ass but this just boarder lines on the silly
if nothing else they are basically a airborne target awaiting to get blown out of the sky and cause massive collateral over the busiest interstate in the us ...
a terrorist isn't gonna bother with a RPG7 or Stinger they are just gonna get the first thing they can that fly load it with C4 and ram it ...
 
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Not flaming, being serious. When is the west coast going to get this tech? I want my country to be safe. I want my neighborhood to be safe. If there is a tea bag looking to cause problems (or worse) where we live, don't we all want them found out and stopped in their tracks.

Isn't money spent on home defense better then handing out monthly checks to tea bags that pretend they cant work, or the baby momma's that have babies for the pay check?

Flack incoming I am sure... but if you live in the USA, maybe think about it a moment before you flame me.
 

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Not flaming, being serious. When is the west coast going to get this tech? I want my country to be safe. I want my neighborhood to be safe. If there is a tea bag looking to cause problems (or worse) where we live, don't we all want them found out and stopped in their tracks.

Isn't money spent on home defense better then handing out monthly checks to tea bags that pretend they cant work, or the baby momma's that have babies for the pay check?

Flack incoming I am sure... but if you live in the USA, maybe think about it a moment before you flame me.
no I won't flame you
you are just a misguided fool
I pitty you
 
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I'm a citizen and in the military and I think this kind of shit is a huge waste of money. Same as the F-35 program. I'd rather see my taxes go toward things that actually improve society (subsidised college, health care, fixing/improving failing infrastructure, etc) than garbage that isn't going to protect you from a damn thing.

Here's a great idea to help make the US safer. Pull out of almost every other country in the world and stay out of fights that aren't ours to be a part of. Be amazed at how people stop hating you when you aren't dropping bombs on them.
 

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no I won't flame you
you are just a misguided fool
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Ha Ha you think you didn't flame by calling names.

I'm a citizen and in the military and I think this kind of shit is a huge waste of money. Same as the F-35 program. I'd rather see my taxes go toward things that actually improve society (subsidised college, health care, fixing/improving failing infrastructure, etc) than garbage that isn't going to protect you from a damn thing.

Here's a great idea to help make the US safer. Pull out of almost every other country in the world and stay out of fights that aren't ours to be a part of. Be amazed at how people stop hating you when you aren't dropping bombs on them.

Fixing/improving our infrastructure IS needed! I agree with that. The other two...the dream act...Obama care...do those ring a bell? How are those working out for you? If we pulled out of other countries our interest would be put at stake, that would in turn effect the rest of our beautiful planet. If we pulled out who else would step in to take our place? The same fooking tards that want to do us harm.

I have not served, but I have family that has, and some that has not made it home...God Bless America.
 
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News flash, the middle east is never going to stop fighting. We're wasting our time and money. A real impact on our planet would be curbing China's excessive pollution, more than dealing with some radicals. I'll take the insanely small risk of getting blown up over constant survellience and domestic spying in the name of protection/freedom.

Second, Obama Case is a short hand for The Affordable Care Act and how can you expect such a huge piece of legislation to work when one side is actively trying to torpedo it for votes and the other isn't willing to work things out. Maybe if we stopped with this garbage First Past the Post voting system we could get something useful done in Congress. What do you expect to happen when two ideologies that don't agree can't compromise? Oh, right......
 

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News flash, the middle east is never going to stop fighting. We're wasting our time and money. A real impact on our planet would be curbing China's excessive pollution, more than dealing with some radicals. I'll take the insanely small risk of getting blown up over constant survellience and domestic spying in the name of protection/freedom.

Second, Obama Case is a short hand for The Affordable Care Act and how can you expect such a huge piece of legislation to work when one side is actively trying to torpedo it for votes and the other isn't willing to work things out. Maybe if we stopped with this garbage First Past the Post voting system we could get something useful done in Congress. What do you expect to happen when two ideologies that don't agree can't compromise? Oh, right......
1. the middle east will stop fighting when they are all dead so ... never is a lot sooner then you might think especially if they keep trying to build nukes ...
2. Obama care is short hand for Obama Tax
3. congress is at its best when they do nothing ...
 
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I guess I should think twice before posting anything that has even 6 degrees of separation from politics. :rolleyes:
 

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I guess I should think twice before posting anything that has even 6 degrees of separation from politics. :rolleyes:
hey @GLD started it but by god ill finish it
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I think you're all just lucky the mods are probably sleeping. :cool:
 

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I think you're all just lucky the mods are probably sleeping. :cool:
pls nothing I said was any more inflammatory then his fear mongering posts about needing to feel safe
never once did I ever feel threatened by extreme-idiots in the middle east and I live in NY
when you give up and curl into a ball and start hiding from your own shadow it just means the extreme-idiots win
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Wow now even the government is trolling it's people.

Lets be honest if there was going to be a missile coming the first one would probably hit anyway. No one can see everything.
 
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At least now they can Corner the Dorner right? Money well spent.
But yeah, these aren't built to defend against countries that have no means or will to go to war with the US. I can only assume it's for protection against their own people. Dorner had anti-air missiles at his disposal. I think their secondary function is of greater value to the people that put this into production, as opposed to detecting missiles that will never come.
 
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we live in an age where we have missiles in space and they are selling this to the fools like we are still back in the 20th century...

that being said america is a backwards thinking country for the most part so....
 

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No range and suicide?

They can't even aim their missiles. All their tests are aimed into the ocean for a reason :D
Reminds me of the Iranian attack jet picture to show off their military prowess. Turns out it was made of cardboard and fibreglass for media purposes. (See Qaher F-313)
 
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At least now they can Corner the Dorner right? Money well spent.
But yeah, these aren't built to defend against countries that have no means or will to go to war with the US. I can only assume it's for protection against their own people. Dorner had anti-air missiles at his disposal. I think their secondary function is of greater value to the people that put this into production, as opposed to detecting missiles that will never come.
The more I think about it, the more I think the most probably application is for monitoring medium to large drones. Even relatively small drones can carry enough high explosive to do serious damage, but for larger scale mayhem of the sort that would be attractive to terrorists, you need something that can handle a larger payload. This should be able to easily handle anything that isn't especially stealthy.
 
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