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i bought a pavlion p7-1210 a while back because i just wanted a standard pc. Now i'm starting to lean towards the gaming side mostly mmos, currently playing FFXIV(<can pull around 20fps at mid setting). It really hit home the other day when i was trying to play farcry4 and it was barely playable. I am willing to put out about $800, and with that in mind i went searching the web and found the alienware x51.

so... can i up grade my pavlion to be better than the x51 if so how? please be detailed, i am not a techwiz.
currently running
AMD Quad-core A6-3620 Accelerated processor
6GB DDR3 system memory
AMD radeon hd 6530D integrated graphics
1 terabyte hard drive
...
http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=c03157407

please leave a link to where i may purchase the change in components.
i really just want to play my games at max setting without worrying about fps please help me.
if you need more info let me know, let me help you help me XD

Edit: just noticed that there was a system builder's advice section, was it bad to post this here?
Edit: summary

~just bought a motherboard
MSI Z87M GAMING Motherboard

i'll be waiting untill next week to buy the cpu and video card. if you think i can get something better at the same price please let me know
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card or MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming 4 GB

~other things i'm looking at now
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo
Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID ATX Mid Tower Case
SSD (???GB)
2x(4GB) ram

~Have
XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
1TB HDD
6̶G̶B̶ ̶r̶a̶m̶
optical drive

~Small things not listed above ~i plan to get separate of budget
anti-static wrist strap (came in mail today)
Thermal Paste (on the way)
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For $800 you could build a new gaming rig that would kick that Alienware x51 in the teeth and just sell that HP locally and use the $$$ on your new rig. I would wait a week to see how well the GTX 960 performs and at what price.
 
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Benchmark Scores well I've fried a 775' P4 12 years ago, that counts?
you want to replace o parts or build a new PC?
You can use some of your parts and build a new gaming Rig…$800 are pretty penny dude
 

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That CPU is pretty weak. So is the graphics. I recommend a new motherboard, cpu and graphics card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116895
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157547
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500362
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182081

This should all work together (as long as you don't need the old PCI slots).

It's probably ~120 under your budget after shipping. You have a little extra to spend, and you can get more performance on the CPU side of things should you be interested in overclocking. I chose the cheapest i5 as I have an i5 2400 that I can't OC and it will go to 3.2GHz, but the 4xxx series has some inherent improvements making it faster than my CPU anyway, and I never ran into any lack of CPU grunt.
 

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That CPU is pretty weak. So is the graphics. I recommend a new motherboard, cpu and graphics card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116895
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157547
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500362
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182081

This should all work together (as long as you don't need the old PCI slots).

It's probably ~120 under your budget after shipping. You have a little extra to spend, and you can get more performance on the CPU side of things should you be interested in overclocking. I chose the cheapest i5 as I have an i5 2400 that I can't OC and it will go to 3.2GHz, but the 4xxx series has some inherent improvements making it faster than my CPU anyway, and I never ran into any lack of CPU grunt.

tempting... if it can save me some money i'm all for it. now will all that fit with my case.
 
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What hat did is pretty good, I would change the GPU for the GIGABYTE GV-N970IXOC-4GD to make sure it fits in your case and get the i5-4440 because it sells at the same price as the i5-4430.

BTW this is way better then the x51 selling at 750$.

No, not really

No, start over.

You can't do that for $800. Reality check: $1,500.

Why wouldn't it fit his case?
 
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Why wouldn't it fit his case?
i am not a techwiz.
I'm not going to ask someone to gut and then put parts in what might be a proprietary case. Secondly, it will most likely not move enough air for a real gaming system. And how much does a case cost?
 

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i don't want to downgrade just because my case can't fit/handle the new parts, at this point it feels like i'm just building a new pc than upgrading the old one... which is fine as long as it stays within price range.
 

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I would suggest spending a bit of time reading the forums here. Get an idea in your mind as to what you can afford.

Then give the community a chance to get their teeth into it. You can reuse some of your existing components and possibly sell some of the others to help finance something better.

There are some great looking cases out there. For me the pc case is like the frame around a picture.
 

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Yeah, come to think of it you just might need/want a new case. The motherboard I picked should fit in there fine, but now that I think of it, the video card may not. It looks like there is room in your case for a longer video card to sit in though.

Side question: when's the last time an OEM used non-standard mounting holes or some crap?
 

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i don't want to downgrade just because my case can't fit/handle the new parts, at this point it feels like i'm just building a new pc than upgrading the old one... which is fine as long as it stays within price range.
but you can use parts like HArd drive and ram for a future build, also if your PSU its 80+ certified you can use it..
 

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but you can use parts like HArd drive and ram for a future build, also if your PSU its 80+ certified you can use it..

I did a quick check yesterday and I think he has a 300 watt PSU which is fine for the PC he has but not for an $800 gaming PC. My opinion is to build a gaming rig from the ground up and sell the HP and put that money into the gaming rig. That might raise the budget to $1,000 but I honestly don't know what his HP is worth.
 
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I am willing to put out about $800

i don't want to downgrade just because my case can't fit/handle the new parts, at this point it feels like i'm just building a new pc than upgrading the old one... which is fine as long as it stays within price range.

how's this look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GdGnCJ

and if you can manage to reuse your current copy of Windows, the video card can be upgraded to as high as a GTX 780.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d7snCJ
 
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That's why I recommended a new power supply... the psu that comes with oem systems, unless it's some kind of high end gaming system or something already is never really adequate for this kind of stuff.
 

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I did a quick check yesterday and I think he has a 300 watt PSU which is fine for the PC he has but not for an $800 gaming PC. My opinion is to build a gaming rig from the ground up and sell the HP and put that money into the gaming rig. That might raise the budget to $1,000 but I honestly don't know what his HP is worth.
i gotta recongnize that selling the complete rig (HP) would help to increase the budget, nice answer my friend,
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You're probably better off selling the prebuilt for what you can get and putting that money towards components to build a completely new PC from the ground up, perhaps bumping your $800 budget to say $1000.

Just a thought... For $800-$1000 you could put together a really good system that should meet most of your expectations in regards to gaming and not worrying about FPS.
 

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$800 its a pretty penny, you will build a kick ass rig with that money
 

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here are some examples about what can do that money...

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Mercifex, are you interested in overclocking? It will cost more money (from what I suggested) but you can attain higher performance. The 4690k should reach easily 4.4-4.6GHz. That's quite a bit higher than the 3.1GHz i5 I suggested previously, however most would agree with me I think when I say CPU performance is not all that important for gaming (unless you're into very CPU intensive games).
 

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ok ok so what i got so for from what i read above is grab the (6GB ram, optical drive, and the 1TB hard drive) from the pavilion
and buy everything else.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8rCF3C

with that it's within the budget, what you guys think?
oh someone put a 750W power supply above is all that power needed should i changed to a bigger power supply?
do i need to buy cpu fan doesn't it come with one?
 
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Buy a 700W 80+plus Certified,
if you want ... coler master 212 EVo may be a decent options for cooliing,

Regards,
 

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Motherboard DFI Lanparty
Cooling Big tower thing
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Case a plank of wood
Audio Device(s) seperate amp and 6 big speakers
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Keyboard under going restoration
Slow down Dude. I think your spending money in the wrong directions.


Whats your budget ?

What are you going to use it for ?

How soon do you want to spend more money on it ?

Remember you only wanted to upgrade your existing kit.

People on here will help you spend your money wisely.
 
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