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CPU For The Sims 3 & 4 - AMD or Intel?

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I know you've been going back and forth on the Pentium Anniversary vs i3 vs i5 debate, but I just thought I'd weigh in on my experiences gaming on my little rig. It's a Pentium G3258 Anniv. overclocked to 4.8 GHz on a MSI Z87I GAMING AC mITX board with a Radon HD 7870 GHz Ed. It's handled pretty much everything I've thrown at it quite admirably, in my humble opinion.

Since you're going for budget, I definitely recommend something with overclocking potential. I think you're worrying too much about overclocking your FX. Boot failures are a normal part of the overclocking experience. All it means is you've attempted to POST at an unstable clock and you either need to move your clock down (yes) or your voltage up (typically no unless you're absolutely positive you can handle the increased heat). Just take a deep breath, reset your BIOS, and try again. Hopping up to 4.5 GHz might have been ambitious. :)

Considering the build, I don't think a SSD will give you a good return on performance versus the money you'd spend on it. A mechanical drive will typically give you a nice bit of storage space without a huge performance decrease. The money you save could go towards other components that would net you a higher return.

I'd recommend the G3258 for a few reasons. Being a budget build, there's a lot of bang for the buck in that processor. Performance at stock speeds will probably match your FX processor, but overclocking it will take it to a whole new level. Additionally, if you ever feel the need, you can upgrade the processor at a later date and sell the old one. I like this route as it helps me spread out the investment over time. Power consumption is also lower, which means you may be able to keep your current PSU.
If overclocking isn't your thing, that's okay. The I think it'd be worth looking at the i5-4570 or i5-4590 then. If you don't mind the price bump, you could always get the unlocked i5-4670K or i5-4690K and just run at stock speeds. It should increase the resale value of the processor if you one day decide to move on and give you the option to overclock if/when you run in to this problem again with Sims 5. :p
As much as I like AMD, if you need strong single-threaded performance and you're not overclocking, Intel is the way to go.

As for motherboard chipsets, the Z87 is still a excellent option as long as, like you say, Broadwell and M.2 aren't a big concern. (imo, just sell old and buy new if it is.)

could I just get an i5-4670K and a Z87 board?
If that works for you budget wise, most certainly. I'd start with a decently good motherboard though. It's the most annoying thing to replace down the line. :p
 
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Yes, I do tend to over think things, like this for example :laugh: My guess is most people don't over think about something like a CPU. They just buy the best one that fits their needs and move on. At any rate, if I get an unlocked CPU, I'll probably have to get another PSU as well because most boards now take an 8 pin CPU connector and mine only has one half of the original 8/4 pin connector because my dad got rid of the other 4 pin connector while he was sleeving my cables. I'd really feel safer with a bigger PSU anyway.

If I don't really care about Broadwell and M.2, could I just get an i5-4670K and a Z87 board?

I like that idea!
Here's a good z87 board for cheap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...8380&cm_re=biostar_z87-_-13-138-380-_-Product
 
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Thanks for the suggestion, Schmuckley. I'll be sure to read up on that board. :cool:

I don't intend to upgrade for awhile, so I think I will go for the 4670K and a good Z87 board. Mircocenter has such awesome deals I may have to ask my dad if we can go on a little road trip :D (in case you're wondering, my vision prohibits me from ever driving a car) I mean, crap, on their web-site they have the 4690K for $179! That's unbelievable. They say that's a savings of $80. I think that would be worth driving down there for.
 

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Yes, the 4670K and a Z87 board sounds like a decent combination, especially if you want to save a few bucks.
 
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Thanks for the suggestion, Schmuckley. I'll be sure to read up on that board. :cool:

I don't intend to upgrade for awhile, so I think I will go for the 4670K and a good Z87 board. Mircocenter has such awesome deals I may have to ask my dad if we can go on a little road trip :D (in case you're wondering, my vision prohibits me from ever driving a car) I mean, crap, on their web-site they have the 4690K for $179! That's unbelievable. They say that's a savings of $80. I think that would be worth driving down there for.
If you can get to a Micro-Center, do that and get a decent Z87 board + i5 combo as that will be the best you can do easily without breaking the bank!
 
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Think I will do that, then. 4670K and this board: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4865#kf

Has all the features I want, is Z87, plus it matches my build perfectly and sells for about $115 at my local computer shop; the trip to Micro Center would be for the CPU only. Still, even this way, I'd still be saving a good chunk of $$. :)
 
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This thread went full circle a few times :p When you've collected all your parts and are in the processing of building your new rig, maybe take some pictures and place them in the 'You PC ATM' thread. Provide a link back to this thread so for those of us getting notifications from this thread can go check it out. I think I can speak for quite a few of us here on TPU when I say that we enjoy seeing new parts and builds. Good luck with it all.
 
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Well, I actually have my rig already - have had it for nearly a year now - I'm just looking to upgrade it a bit. New GPU (which I have), CPU + mobo. I'll have to take some pictures of it so you guys can see it though. :)
 
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Well, I actually have my rig already - have had it for nearly a year now - I'm just looking to upgrade it a bit. New GPU (which I have), CPU + mobo. I'll have to take some pictures of it so you guys can see it though.

For me a 'new' rig can reuse many of the old parts, but have upgraded core components (CPU, Motherboard, GPU, RAM, etc). This is what you are going to do. I did pretty much the same thing a couple of years back, albeit with more components like RAM and CPU cooler (have since changed case, PSU, GPU, HDD and added soundcard and a SSD). Besides, that thread is not really for build logs, but rather what your PC is at that time, so can post pretty much anything.
 

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Sorry for dumb this post and sorry for my bad English but I want to share some opinion for someone who typing "good CPU for Sims 3 or 4" in Google.
I am a hardcore fan of Sims I own all expansion pack and stuff pack , First system that I play Sims 3 in 2010 was Phenom II x2 555BE 3.2Ghz , PWC HD 5770 with 2GB system RAM and Windows 7 32bit.
It play Sims 3 quiet well for my resolution (1360x768) but after season pack release in OCT 2012 my game stop working several time , lag , stutter basically I can't play anymore so I decide to add RAM to 8GB and change windows to 64 bit , game run somewhat better but still not perfect.
Half year later I change system to i5-2500K with Z77 M/B and Plextor M5P SSD my FPS in Sims 3 went skyrocket even at stock clock and OC 2500K to 4.5Ghz remove SOME lag and make game load and save faster.
Another upgrade is 5770 -> 7970 and monitor to Full HD with this I can't see any improvement , 7970 perform A VERY LITTLE BETTER than 5770 in Sims 3.
I went further to prove that single core CPU performance is a must for Sims 3 so I buy "Silicon Lottery" 3770K from Zolkorn (He is a famous overclocker in Thailand) it use just 1.35V to archive 5Ghz stable 24/7 and I even once hit 5.4Ghz @ 1.52V just to play Sims 3 by this way



Even 3770K at 5.4Ghz I play Bridgeport but ... believe it or not it still lag even without mod or CC.
So I sold my 3770K to gain back full money that I bought it and go to Haswell this time my 4770K hit 4.4Ghz @ 1.3V which is suck and cannot match single core performance of 3770K @ 5Ghz.
I search some good batch and luckily I found 4670K L313B428 this CPU hit 4.9Ghz @ 1.35V 24/7 combine with 2800Mhz RAM 12-14-14-35-1T it should outperform single core of my old CPU.
I play with 4670K @ 4.9Ghz quiet long but Sims 3 still run suck FPS is high but frame time suck. Later I bored Sims 3 and sold CPU for good price and went to used 2600K no OC. Now I rarely play Sims 3 but my wife still play it sometimes.

Sims 3 with every expansions is very CPU bound , How ? I can't tell perhaps it must run on 4690K @ 7Ghz under ln2 to archieve good game.
Now I change VGA to GTX 970 and use DSR for my QHD so I can run Sims 3 @ 5120x2880 , at 4K Sims 3 still CPU bound but 5K is completly GPU bound my 970 running near 1.6Ghz run 99% all time and can't maintain 60FPS (usually 40-50) even GPU bound the game can't escape the fate that it run suck (lag stutter) no matter what system you play.
For Sims 3 any system will run suck perhaps worse than Ubishit port and Nvidiot "Gameworks" such as Watch Dogs , AC Unity or Far Cry 4.

For Sims 4 I must admit this game is quiet good optimize , when I sell R9-290 to get GTX 970 I used onboard Intel HD Graphics 3000 of my 2600K to play Sims 4 @ QHD "medium setting" and maintain 60-80 FPS all time.
Sims 4 run much better than Sims 3 for Intel I think i3-4150 or G3258 @ 4.5Ghz is solid for AMD maybe Athlon x4 860K is enough.
 
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you had to put your cpu on ice to play sims 3 :banghead:

my sister plays sims 4 on high settings with a laptop that has a a8
 
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Sorry for dumb this post and sorry for my bad English but I want to share some opinion for someone who typing "good CPU for Sims 3 or 4" in Google.
I am a hardcore fan of Sims I own all expansion pack and stuff pack , First system that I play Sims 3 in 2010 was Phenom II x2 555BE 3.2Ghz , PWC HD 5770 with 2GB system RAM and Windows 7 32bit.
It play Sims 3 quiet well for my resolution (1360x768) but after season pack release in OCT 2012 my game stop working several time , lag , stutter basically I can't play anymore so I decide to add RAM to 8GB and change windows to 64 bit , game run somewhat better but still not perfect.
Half year later I change system to i5-2500K with Z77 M/B and Plextor M5P SSD my FPS in Sims 3 went skyrocket even at stock clock and OC 2500K to 4.5Ghz remove SOME lag and make game load and save faster.
Another upgrade is 5770 -> 7970 and monitor to Full HD with this I can't see any improvement , 7970 perform A VERY LITTLE BETTER than 5770 in Sims 3.
I went further to prove that single core CPU performance is a must for Sims 3 so I buy "Silicon Lottery" 3770K from Zolkorn (He is a famous overclocker in Thailand) it use just 1.35V to archive 5Ghz stable 24/7 and I even once hit 5.4Ghz @ 1.52V just to play Sims 3 by this way



Even 3770K at 5.4Ghz I play Bridgeport but ... believe it or not it still lag even without mod or CC.
So I sold my 3770K to gain back full money that I bought it and go to Haswell this time my 4770K hit 4.4Ghz @ 1.3V which is suck and cannot match single core performance of 3770K @ 5Ghz.
I search some good batch and luckily I found 4670K L313B428 this CPU hit 4.9Ghz @ 1.35V 24/7 combine with 2800Mhz RAM 12-14-14-35-1T it should outperform single core of my old CPU.
I play with 4670K @ 4.9Ghz quiet long but Sims 3 still run suck FPS is high but frame time suck. Later I bored Sims 3 and sold CPU for good price and went to used 2600K no OC. Now I rarely play Sims 3 but my wife still play it sometimes.

Sims 3 with every expansions is very CPU bound , How ? I can't tell perhaps it must run on 4690K @ 7Ghz under ln2 to archieve good game.
Now I change VGA to GTX 970 and use DSR for my QHD so I can run Sims 3 @ 5120x2880 , at 4K Sims 3 still CPU bound but 5K is completly GPU bound my 970 running near 1.6Ghz run 99% all time and can't maintain 60FPS (usually 40-50) even GPU bound the game can't escape the fate that it run suck (lag stutter) no matter what system you play.
For Sims 3 any system will run suck perhaps worse than Ubishit port and Nvidiot "Gameworks" such as Watch Dogs , AC Unity or Far Cry 4.

For Sims 4 I must admit this game is quiet good optimize , when I sell R9-290 to get GTX 970 I used onboard Intel HD Graphics 3000 of my 2600K to play Sims 4 @ QHD "medium setting" and maintain 60-80 FPS all time.
Sims 4 run much better than Sims 3 for Intel I think i3-4150 or G3258 @ 4.5Ghz is solid for AMD maybe Athlon x4 860K is enough.


Your running a single GPU on 4K its has zero to do with your CPU lol, My old 775 could run sims 3 not sure what your doing but seems to be wrong.
 

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Sorry for dumb this post and sorry for my bad English but I want to share some opinion for someone who typing "good CPU for Sims 3 or 4" in Google.
I am a hardcore fan of Sims I own all expansion pack and stuff pack , First system that I play Sims 3 in 2010 was Phenom II x2 555BE 3.2Ghz , PWC HD 5770 with 2GB system RAM and Windows 7 32bit.
It play Sims 3 quiet well for my resolution (1360x768) but after season pack release in OCT 2012 my game stop working several time , lag , stutter basically I can't play anymore so I decide to add RAM to 8GB and change windows to 64 bit , game run somewhat better but still not perfect.
Half year later I change system to i5-2500K with Z77 M/B and Plextor M5P SSD my FPS in Sims 3 went skyrocket even at stock clock and OC 2500K to 4.5Ghz remove SOME lag and make game load and save faster.
Another upgrade is 5770 -> 7970 and monitor to Full HD with this I can't see any improvement , 7970 perform A VERY LITTLE BETTER than 5770 in Sims 3.
I went further to prove that single core CPU performance is a must for Sims 3 so I buy "Silicon Lottery" 3770K from Zolkorn (He is a famous overclocker in Thailand) it use just 1.35V to archive 5Ghz stable 24/7 and I even once hit 5.4Ghz @ 1.52V just to play Sims 3 by this way



Even 3770K at 5.4Ghz I play Bridgeport but ... believe it or not it still lag even without mod or CC.
So I sold my 3770K to gain back full money that I bought it and go to Haswell this time my 4770K hit 4.4Ghz @ 1.3V which is suck and cannot match single core performance of 3770K @ 5Ghz.
I search some good batch and luckily I found 4670K L313B428 this CPU hit 4.9Ghz @ 1.35V 24/7 combine with 2800Mhz RAM 12-14-14-35-1T it should outperform single core of my old CPU.
I play with 4670K @ 4.9Ghz quiet long but Sims 3 still run suck FPS is high but frame time suck. Later I bored Sims 3 and sold CPU for good price and went to used 2600K no OC. Now I rarely play Sims 3 but my wife still play it sometimes.

Sims 3 with every expansions is very CPU bound , How ? I can't tell perhaps it must run on 4690K @ 7Ghz under ln2 to archieve good game.
Now I change VGA to GTX 970 and use DSR for my QHD so I can run Sims 3 @ 5120x2880 , at 4K Sims 3 still CPU bound but 5K is completly GPU bound my 970 running near 1.6Ghz run 99% all time and can't maintain 60FPS (usually 40-50) even GPU bound the game can't escape the fate that it run suck (lag stutter) no matter what system you play.
For Sims 3 any system will run suck perhaps worse than Ubishit port and Nvidiot "Gameworks" such as Watch Dogs , AC Unity or Far Cry 4.

For Sims 4 I must admit this game is quiet good optimize , when I sell R9-290 to get GTX 970 I used onboard Intel HD Graphics 3000 of my 2600K to play Sims 4 @ QHD "medium setting" and maintain 60-80 FPS all time.
Sims 4 run much better than Sims 3 for Intel I think i3-4150 or G3258 @ 4.5Ghz is solid for AMD maybe Athlon x4 860K is enough.
Can you not thread necro? Thanks.
 
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What Toothless said. I think this thread should officially be retired, as I've got a solution to my problem which is leaps and bounds better than my FX-6100 ever was; that little i3-4360 I got works wonders and I couldn't be happier with it. Sims 3 now runs nearly lag free and I can play for more than 10 minutes now without it suffering from severe lag. :D
 
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Still, I thought that was a pretty interesting piece of information there :)
Certainly should help people who may be thinking they're doing something wrong, or need to invest more in better hardware, when the gains will actually be minimal...
 

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If your not having much success with an AMD FX6100, I don't think getting an AMD 8 core is going to make much difference. And from what I can see online, the Sims would rather a cpu with quicker single core performance than multicore.

So I'd recommend getting the cheapest i5 CPU you can with a H81 board or Z97 if you can fit one into your budget.

Memory will probably be an issue too if you only have 4GB, need 8GB ideally.
Do you think the AMD FX 4300 would be fine for the sims 3?
 

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Off topic posts deleted. Darrian2727 posted a relevant post to the topic at hand, even though the thread is old. This is allowed in our forum and I would hope that members would try to help answer the questioned posed.
 
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