Let's extrapolate 390X vs Titan X performance from these leaked graphs

BiggieShady · Mar 17, 2015

This just leaked http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/81697-slides-amd-radeon-r9-390x-wce-presentation-leaked/

AMD had a presentation where they boasted about "king of the hill" status while presenting this slide:

They claim 50% to about 65% performance icnrease ... aaand looking at this leak:

Top silicons will once again have similar performance. Maybe AMD will even be faster if 390X's performance increase is closer to 65%. Given that presentations always have best case scenarios in them we may expect it to be tied with Titan X, while Titan X should be more overclockable :

Thoughts?

the54thvoid · Mar 17, 2015

Wait an hour till 9am Pacific time.

Can't compare AMD slide with leaked Titan bench. Too much FUD.

BiggieShady · Mar 17, 2015

the54thvoid said:
Too much FUD.

FUD is because of the unknowns and the unknowns are what makes us want to speculate but we don't dare to speculate because of the FUD. Beautiful circular logic of life.

EarthDog · Mar 17, 2015

I'll watch this game of averaging averages to find an average of the average...

I'm just curious, FUD aside, how are you comparing the cards to each other with unlike benchmarks? I understand this is all speculation and hyptotheticals, but isn't it incredibly difficult (read: impossible) to even try?

"Well if card A scored xxxx in benchmark 1 and is xx% faster than its previous gen, but card B scored xxxx in benchmark 2. So we can extrapoloate two unrelated things to come up with a related outcome....................????

Not trying to be a hater, but this is an exercise in futility BShady...

BiggieShady · Mar 17, 2015

I am curious what did AMD do to increase GCN core count that much and stay within the power envelope (or should I say without exceeding the power envelope too much)

EarthDog said:
Not trying to be a hater, but this is an exercise in futility BShady...

It's semi-futile because you can compare ratios, given the shaders are stressed enough ... and yes, I decided I'd contribute to the society by spawning several futility exercises in the form of the forum threads ... this is just the beginning mwahaha

erocker · Mar 17, 2015

Meh, by the time 390x is out, Nvidia will have (or be close to having) a 980ti. Titan X will be irrelevant.

EarthDog · Mar 17, 2015

erocker said:
Meh, by the time 390x is out, Nvidia will have (or be close to having) a 980ti. Titan X will be irrelevant.

I think the 980Ti will be its true market competition anyway personally... I have a feeling the pricing for a 980Ti will be a lot better than the $1K Titan X. Without DP though (right?), I struggle to see why the price is so high... the Memory capacity is a small part of the story...

I wonder the if the 980Ti will be 6GB 384bit... Much more fit for gaming, even at 4K...

REAYTH · Mar 17, 2015

"Lets all waste our time for a few hours arguing over leaked slides that will be proven true or false in a two hours" Should be the name of this thread.

Daemmon · Mar 17, 2015

erocker said:
Meh, by the time 390x is out, Nvidia will have (or be close to having) a 980ti. Titan X will be irrelevant.

This, I guess. We are still 3 months away from AMD release. The green camp may do something in this 3 months.

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From the graphs, I don't know what's worse... a comparison saying this is 50% better (with no actual numbers) , or the ones based on benchmarks. Too many consecutive approximations for me.

vega22 · Mar 17, 2015

so yea, the card that comes out next, it will be better than todays cards.

then the card after that, will be better still!!!!

i think i will buy a titan x to take away the attention from my tiny, tiny penis.

BiggieShady · Mar 17, 2015

marsey99 said:
i think i will buy a titan x to take away the attention from my tiny, tiny penis.

You used the word "tiny" twice, you might consider SLI

erocker · Mar 17, 2015

With the leaked TechSpot review (or maybe just freshly released), I find higher resolutions and this card more disappointing than the price.

Tatty_Two · Mar 17, 2015

I continue to be surprised, although I admit that I shouldn't that over and over again some choose to take so called "leaks" seriously and then mix them up at times with an unhealthy dose of speculation which often on this and other forums has lead to embarrassment by some when things turn out a little different. On the upside I continue to be entertained, more so at the humble pie eating that fills a few members up on official launch days, now don't get me wrong, I am a fan of performance but rarely do the final numbers really add up to the hype, there have been the odd exception but "odd" tends to be the trend, lets hope the hype translates to expectations, I don't have many so am easily satisfied

the54thvoid · Mar 17, 2015

marsey99 said:
i think i will buy a titan x to take away the attention from my tiny, tiny penis.

Firstly, extravagant tech purchases aren't like Corvettes and Ferrari's
Secondly, your tiny penis can't be helped.
Thirdly, seeing Titan X's performance figures have actually made my penis bigger. 780ti Classified sli all the way baby

But, on your side (I mean team Red) I think 390X might well hump Titan, so that will be pleasing. Even if all the leaks are wrong (60% improvement) the 70% to 100% jump from 290X to Titan X is easily surmountable by a new architecture from AMD. Roll on June, roll on progress.

BarbaricSoul · Mar 17, 2015

EarthDog said:
I think the 980Ti will be its true market competition anyway personally... I have a feeling the pricing for a 980Ti will be a lot better than the $1K Titan X. Without DP though (right?), I struggle to see why the price is so high... the Memory capacity is a small part of the story...

I wonder the if the 980Ti will be 6GB 384bit... Much more fit for gaming, even at 4K...

hmmm, seems like a deja vue is coming on

780 released at $550 (iirc), then Titan released at just over $1000, and then 780ti released at around $725

sure seems like history is about to repeat it's self

Daemmon · Mar 17, 2015

Ok, after reading the review from TechSpot I got the same conclusion I had previously.

Overpriced. Is it a good card? Yes, amazing! It's competing head to head with a 295, a freaking dual GPU. But is it worth the price? Fuck no. And now that it's not the best card for computing, then I'm pretty sure only fanboys would buy it.

rtwjunkie · Mar 17, 2015

Daemmon said:
This, I guess. We are still 3 months away from AMD release. The green camp may do something in this 3 months.

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From the graphs, I don't know what's worse... a comparison saying this is 50% better (with no actual numbers) , or the ones based on benchmarks. Too many consecutive approximations for me.

What they will do in 3 months I bet is wait for 390x release, and then release the 980Ti (or whatever they decide to call the cut down Titan). The good news is we'll have two cards to compare at almost the same time, which is nice!

ZenZimZaliben · Mar 17, 2015

Daemmon said:
Ok, after reading the review from TechSpot I got the same conclusion I had previously.

Overpriced. Is it a good card? Yes, amazing! It's competing head to head with a 295, a freaking dual GPU. But is it worth the price? Fuck no. And now that it's not the best card for computing, then I'm pretty sure only fanboys would buy it.

IF you are gaming at 4k+ resolutions and expect good FPS it is worth it.

Daemmon · Mar 17, 2015

ZenZimZaliben said:
IF you are gaming at 4k+ resolutions and expect good FPS it is worth it.

Except buying a 295x2 (700$~) or 2x 290x (750$~) is 250$ less for pretty much the same performance. Only factor to discuss would be the PSU you would need to roll those, which still should be less than the 250-300$ difference.

ZenZimZaliben · Mar 17, 2015

Daemmon said:
Except buying a 295x2 (700$~) or 2x 290x (750$~) is 250$ less for pretty much the same performance. Only factor to discuss would be the PSU you would need to roll those, which still should be less than the 250-300$ difference.

IDK about you but I prefer single card, single gpu solutions. A lot less hassle more often than not, and that has a value to it as well.

Lotus · Mar 17, 2015

AMD Radeon R9 390 3DMARK Fire Strike Extreme Graphics Score 7294

W1zzard · Mar 17, 2015

Lotus said:
AMD Radeon R9 390 3DMARK Fire Strike Extreme Graphics Score 7294

Easy enough to fake, edit inf file to change name in device manager, take screenshot, photoshop it, open device manager over it, so you can click on it.

Caring1 · Mar 18, 2015

EarthDog said:
I'll watch this game of averaging averages to find an average of the average...

That's Mean

MetalRacer · Mar 18, 2015

GTX Titan X review.

http://lab501.ro/placi-video/review-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-black-beast

Ebo · Mar 18, 2015

Now the full Maxwell have launched and thats so and so. there no reason to speculate until we see the R9 390X in action and see what it can do, june will come in due time

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