Russia's new supersonic bomber can outrun Britain's best fighter jet

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

• Russian President Putin is about to unleash a new supersonic bomber

• The Blackjack will be able to outrun the RAF's fastest fighter jets

• Last month Russian Bear aircraft were spotted on sorties near Cornwall

• But Blackjack is three times faster than the Bear and can fly four times further than the fighters that make up UK's Quick Reaction Alert squadrons

• The Russian aircraft has a range of 7,600 miles without refuelling

the full article is here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bomber-outrun-Britain-s-best-fighter-jet.html

 

[R-T-B]

Knowing Russia, they probably have about 3 of these. They like to make a lot of high tech prototypes that don't actually get beyond the demonstration phase just for bragging rights... kinda the opposite of the west which keeps such things under wraps.

I mean, have they even actually widely deployed the T-90 series of tanks yet? Didn't think so.

 

[xorbe]

Only in a straight line, probably.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

According to Wiki ( so not necessarily accurate) they have 35 of these.

Does anyone know what the US or NATO equivalent is?

I found this brilliant list
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/top_7_bombers.htm

 

[dorsetknob]

the various 3 letter agency's (they know who they are) have provably hacked the Russians years ago for the blueprints.

It wont be able to Out run that laser based weapon the USA will soon deploy
It only makes sense in such as its bomb Payload would be a nuke (could not carry a heavy payload of conventional Iron bombs to make its use viable)
and at the end of the Run/Day Don't forget the

""" M A D """ option

edit
many years ago The British thought about Militarizing Concorde modifying it as a Nuke capable bomber
Top speed would have been well over Mark 2.5 under military thrust
they even went as far as testing this idea by fitting 2 of Concord's engines into a Vulcan bomber.
Again Cost ruled out this idea and of course the MAD option

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Uh, Mach 2.0 isn't very fast. Surely the RAF has mach 5+ rockets designed for taking out aircraft such as this. If they don't, I'm sure the USA has more than a few we can sell. XD


Edit: The Rapier missile should be able to intercept it but only if the aircraft is coming towards the launch site. But yeah, most of the SAMs I'm seeing were designed in the 1960s. UK should consider upgrading.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Uh, Mach 2.0 isn't very fast. Surely the RAF has mach 5+ rockets designed for taking out aircraft such as this. If they don't, I'm sure the USA has more than a few we can sell. XD


Edit: The Rapier missile should be able to intercept it but only if the aircraft is coming towards the launch site.

It begs the question though.........how safe is it to take down a nuclear carrying weapons platform ?

I dont know the answer by the way.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Who cares? What's this Russian propaganda panic? As long Air to Air missile catches that darn thing, it is useless at what speed it catches a fireball. It the thing is not stealthy at all and will be visible approaching on even ancient radar tech.

This is only a tool to inflict fear to weak ones.

It begs the question though.........how safe is it to take down a nuclear carrying weapons platform ?

I dont know the answer by the way.

Not 100% but those thing are created to not to explode in such a way otherwise they could explode in a accident on their own territory... Knowing that all russian tech is an utter crap, they made at least a proper ejection seat again.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Irrelevant unless it can outpace a Starstreak II missile system which deploys at mach 4+, no need to risk losing a fighter when you can just deploy a portable guided missile system that will do the job for you. Nice plane all the same!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Does anyone know what the US or NATO equivalent is?

Valkyrie but that ended in a fireball. Deployed and in use, probably the B1-B Lancer. Similar range but 0.75 Mach slower. The Lancer carries substantially more bombs though and is designed to fly under the RADAR.

The F-22 Raptor is 0.25 Mach faster than this bomber and it carries AIM-120 air-to-air missiles capable of mach 4 as well as Sidewinders capable of 2.7 mach. The F-22 and virtually any aircraft that has a decent speed and carries AIM-120 should be able to engage it without problems.

It begs the question though.........how safe is it to take down a nuclear carrying weapons platform ?

I dont know the answer by the way.

Safe, so long as they aren't armed. Nuclear weapons are designed to not arm until after they have exited the aircraft for the safety of the crew and recovery teams should the bombs have to be scuttled or the aircraft went down (this happened several times in the Cold War).

 

[Ferrum Master]

(this happened several times in the Cold War).

Yeah Palomares B-52 crash lol What a slap in the face actually for safety standards.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Starstreak

 

[st2000]

This is only a tool to inflict fear to weak ones.

true that
i cant get only 1 thing - we got these planes from `87, why it's news?
and ukraine in beginning of 90s had about 15-20 planes, they sold us about 10(rest were liquidated by disarmament agreement)

 

[Countryside]

That is one bad ass bomber !
What you guys think of this?

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

true that
i cant get only 1 thing - we got these planes from `87, why it's news?
and ukraine in beginning of 90s had about 15-20 planes, they sold us about 10(rest were liquidated by disarmament agreement)

It is news in the UK because recently Russian bombers have been regularly and routinely using our airspace.
We dont fear the Russian Bear, though i think we are wary.

Putin likes to see himself as a bare chested muscleman.....i think this is just him taking his T shirt off.
We lived through these kind of capers and a lot worse during the cold war and Cuban missile crisis.

 

[st2000]

What you guys think of this?

too tall, side pannels look like good designed and less combat use/too bad
in Russia we know about rpg-7 and what happens when it meets ANY tank

 

[Ferrum Master]

i cant get only 1 thing - we got these planes from `87, why it's news?

Are you reading your local news . Well Jet fighter development program had been always like that. Planes undergo upgrades, that make them truly different spec wise... Just as F-15 to F-15E did, just as MIG-31 upgraded to MIG-31BM, those are not plain numbers, but completely different specs. Including engine, radar, missile capability etc...

They are upgrading Tupoljevs too.

 

[TheFinalFrontEar]

What a cool thread, from first hand experience rapier is the shit!! used them on a training ex with the Royal Artillery on salisbury plain, I believe the eurofighter typhoon see link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon is the used craft at the moment for qrf to escort out of u.k airspace

 

[Countryside]

too tall, side pannels look like good designed and less combat use/too bad
in Russia we know about rpg-7 and what happens when it meets ANY tank

Well said. Here in Estonia we know about Carl Gustav and Javelin bad news for any tank.

 

[st2000]

difference between tu-160 and tu-160m is just the possibility of carryng Х-90
for news: our aircrafts(as USA aircrafts too) very often invades in foreign airspace

 

[Ferrum Master]

That is one bad ass bomber !
What you guys think of this?

Poland has the greatest Tank army in our side, just because on the fall of USSR there was located high tech Tank plant constructing including T-72BM(same T-90), I lol, Russians sell export low end tanks, then buyer send them to Poland for upgrading, money rolls on .

 

[TheFinalFrontEar]

Have a look at its working capabilities

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSa5oeLO5OE

 

[TheFinalFrontEar]

Slightly off topic but have a look at this phoenix system used by R.A

May I add controlled by an xbox 360 controller

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

October 2014
http://www.aco.nato.int/nato-tracks-largescale-russian-air-activity-in-europe.aspx

Being a child of the 60's none of this worries me.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Only thing that Russians don't need to make are more air to air missiles in case of Britain.

Well your HMS Queen Elizabeth is still haunted with no planes... as US still struggles with their most shameful F-35 Taxpayer pardon Lightening 2 program. This thing is just getting more than comic . Why the Pentagon top executives haven't been lynched for such a fact. Even Swedish JAS 39 Gripen is better, at least it flies and doesn't catch fire (not even talking about the price )

Slightly off topic but have a look at this phoenix system used by R.A
May I add controlled by an xbox 360 controller

I bet the Japanese have a better receiver box not rendering at 900p, but full 1080p@60FPS and using Dualshock 4 controller .